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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Thursday, July 28, 2022HEAR ME OUT! Abolish the minor leagues
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Posted: July 28, 2022 at 04:23 PM | 26 comment(s)
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1. JJ1986 Posted: July 28, 2022 at 05:11 PM (#6088788)I'm not sure the MLBPA would ever agree to this. Seven years of essentially indentured servitude transfers millions to veteran major league players each year. .
No, because I am pretty sure then he would have told them that the MLBPA has limited influence over the minor leagues since the minor leaguers are typically not members of the union. But IANAL, so who knows.
What about minor league sports makes people think that they throw off huge piles of cash?
Back in the days of the free minor leagues, bonuses for amateur players tended to be small, then the contract would get sold to higher leagues for gradually increasing sums. Salaries weren't that high, either.
In a free minor league system, I predict that bonuses would be extremely small below AAA. They'd probably be somewhat higher for hot prospects who are major league ready, but fringe players would get the equivalent of NBA 10 day contracts or NFL game by game contracts.
Minor league salaries would remain tiny, because
<stops to clear throat>
ALL THE REVENUE IN BASEBALL IS MADE BY THE MAJOR LEAGUES.
A true independent system--everybody on one year contracts shuffling around--would be interesting (but probably bad at player development since it'd prioritize competitive teams over letting guys figure things out.) But this looks awful.
So now Mandalorians are writing baseball commentary?
In line with #11 ... why is this $20-50 M going to the minor-league team? So we replace the ML 3-year reserve and 3-year arb clause with a 8-9 year minor-league reserve clause?
Obviously some money would need to go to the minor leagues ... does a minor-league team gamble, say, $15 M to sign Bryce Harper with the intention of selling him on to the majors in 2-3 years for a nice profit? Maybe. A sales price of $20 M is great in isolation but doesn't cover the cost of the expensive prospects that bust so quite possibly you do need to sell Harper on for $30 M for that to make sense. This also leaves aside the problem of just how many minor-league owners have $30 M sitting around ever year to spend on these prospects above and beyond all the other costs of a full roster and fielding a team.
And how are the Burlington Indians (Guardians? No longer exist?) going to scout kids in California much less Latin America? Let's not even think about the local talent pool available to teams in Iowa.
Not to go all money-grubbing 21st century venture capitalist on this but for a system like this to work, you need money-grubbing 21st century venture capitalists who are willing to pay Harper $15 M out of high school in exchange for X% of his future earnings (or earnings over the first X years of his career). Then they can "loan" him out to the minor-league team most willing to pay them a bit for his services (or just the one that seems to do the best job of development) until they can get a ML team to fork over some major money.
A true independent system--everybody on one year contracts shuffling around
That is not an "independent" system. If you are Bryce Harper, why shouldn't a team be allowed to offer you a 12-year guaranteed contract and why shouldn't he be able to demand one? Every player forced to a 1-year contract would be a massive advantage to the owners. Now sure, if Harper is silly enough to sign a 12-year, $8 M contract with the Toledo Mud Hens then so be it.
There is absolutely no rule in MLB that requires a team to offer Bryce Harper a 12-year guaranteed contract. There is no (explicit) rule to keep a team from offering him a 6-year guaranteed plus 6 team options contract. MLB owners can shift to offering FAs 1-year contracts any time they want (as long as they don't collude). Teams offer multi-year contracts because they have decided the multi-year contract is in the team's favor ... or at least it's a preferred outcome to the player signing elsewhere.
In line with #10 ... are they great baseball towns? Much like the majors, the minors make their money off the casual fan. They use all the gimmicks and giveaways to draw these folks in. Even for a baseball fan like me, I went to minor-league games strictly for "fun" -- I didn't care who won/lost, didn't care too much if it was a "good" or close game, paid attention to the couple of legit prospects, didn't have a favorite player on my local team. I was a fan of, for example, the UNC Women's soccer team ... didn't give a #### about the Durham Bulls but enjoyed going to their games.
Maybe there was a time 90 years ago when people in Durham had a fan's attachment to the Bulls but that hasn't been true for a long time and I don't see how you could ever get it back. Certainly in Burlington NC, people go to the games (when they do) cuz there ain't nothing else to do. Sure, last I checked there was still a "major league lacrosse" league running and I assume there are some small number of genuine fans of those teams (though I bet they rely on a lot of gimmicks and giveaways too). If the minors want that level of success and revenue, I assume they could do so.
Admittedly, I grew up in a ML city so have never fully understood the fascination with sub-par baseball, basketball and football ... although I did become a fan of college b-ball. I'd probably find it even more puzzling now when you can dial up world-class sports from around the world whenever you want. So if you are a _baseball_ fan then watch the best of the best ... unless you're just sort of fascinated with the development aspect in which case go to the minors games to rub your amateur scouting jones.
this is the editor-in-chief of zombie-deadspin.
The highest ebb of the minor leagues predates television. If you're a baseball fan now, you can watch a major league team on TV or online just about any time you want; that diminishes the appeal of in-person attendance at a minor league game even if the team is independent.
Also, regarding the rant about MLB teams trying to win instead of just selling prospect hype: Before the controlled minor leagues and the draft, parity in MLB was significantly worse than it is now. The bad teams weren't forced to try to win without minor leaguers; they just gave up entirely.
Or Maine (or most cold-weather states.) Most fans in Maine root for the Red Sox, and one obvious perk in Portland Sea Dog games is seeing the parent team's prospects. I'm sure that's a facet for all MLB-connected minor league teams. Also, Hadlock Field was packed for the Chris Sale rehab start earlier this season - not sure how all-indy would work for MLB teams rehabbing players coming off IL.
"highest ebb"? Definitely a malapropism, but could almost be valid for neap-tide periods.
The OP mentions 40-man rosters, so presumably some of those players would be on loan (or some such) to minor league teams. Even affiliated minor league teams back in the 1980s signed a few of their own players and coaches, which obviously created tension with the nominal parent club, but the OP apparently wants to flip the relationship, and have most players signed by the minor league team. So there's some precedent for this, and of course he's basically describing European soccer's current hierarchies. I would conclude the logistics are manageable, although that's not the same thing as optimal.
A few minor league teams, notably the Miami Miracle, also participated in the draft via a loophole that got closed around 1990. It seems that as part of an overal labor agreement the draft could again be extended to the minors.
Is this still true? Affiliations change so frequently these days, are there enough "traditional" majors-minors relationships left that this sort of sentiment holds for more than maybe a dozen?
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