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Monday, November 02, 2020

Here are the MVP, CY, ROY, MOY finalists

MOST VALUABLE PLAYER

Winners announced Thurs., Nov. 12 on MLB Network

NL finalists: Mookie Betts (LAD), Freddie Freeman (ATL), Manny Machado (SD)

Betts: The 2018 AL MVP Award winner had an impressive debut season with the Dodgers, slashing .292/.366/.562 with 16 homers and 10 stolen bases. Along with winning the award in 2018, Betts has received MVP votes each season since ‘15, including finishing as the runner-up in ‘16.

Freeman: Though he’s never finished higher than fourth in MVP voting previously, that will change after Freeman’s incredible 2020 campaign. The Braves’ first baseman hit .341 with 13 homers, an MLB-leading 23 doubles and 53 RBIs, all while posting a remarkable 1.102 OPS.

Machado: A key cog in the Padres’ potent offense, Machado had a solid all-around season, clubbing 16 homers and swiping six bases in the shortened 60-game season. That would put him on pace for 43 homers and 16 stolen bases over a 162-game stretch. He also slashed .304/.370/.580 while forming one of the league’s most formidable duos alongside Fernando Tatis Jr.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 02, 2020 at 08:51 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: awards, bbwaa, cy young, mvp, rookie of the year

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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 02, 2020 at 11:38 PM (#5987107)
Rick Renteria is up for Manager of the Year. How many Managers of the Year lost their job that offseason? Davey Johnson is one (1997).
   2. Random Transaction Generator Posted: November 03, 2020 at 12:04 AM (#5987108)
Dwayne Casey did it in the NBA (2017-18 winner, let go in the summer of 2018).
   3. SoSH U at work Posted: November 03, 2020 at 12:06 AM (#5987109)
Joe Girardi was named MoY during his only season with the Marlins. He later finished fourth the season he was canned by the Yankees.

   4. Cooper Nielson Posted: November 03, 2020 at 12:57 AM (#5987111)
I was surprised that Tatis Jr. wasn't a finalist as he had been getting all the early attention, but I see now that he only hit .209/.311/.403 in September.(I didn't follow baseball very closely this year.) Still 5th in bWAR among position players.

The finalists in both AL and NL MVP races are basically the top 3 position players in bWAR in each league. (Actually bb-ref has Tim Anderson at #3 and Jose Ramirez #4, not tied, but they both round to 2.2 so it can't be a big difference.)

FanGraphs sees it a bit differently, as they would've had Rendon and not LeMahieu (#5) in the AL top three and Tatis instead of Machado (#6) in the NL top three.
   5. JJ1986 Posted: November 03, 2020 at 07:48 AM (#5987120)
I really would have liked East, Central and West awards this year. (That way deGrom gets a third straight Cy Young).
   6. DL from MN Posted: November 03, 2020 at 08:50 AM (#5987127)
2020 MMP award voting will start soon. In contrast to the MVP we can consider playoff performance as part of the vote. This year with the playoffs adding 25% to the season it will definitely skew toward top playoff performers.
   7. salvomania Posted: November 03, 2020 at 11:08 AM (#5987134)
I was surprised that Tatis Jr. wasn't a finalist

He's not a rookie, had over 300 PA in 2019. You must not have been following baseball very closely last year, either. :)
   8. Swoboda is freedom Posted: November 03, 2020 at 11:45 AM (#5987140)
Max Fried was not a finalist for Cy Young. That was surprising. He led in WAR for pitchers, but hard to judge based on 70 innings.
   9. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: November 03, 2020 at 11:52 AM (#5987141)
He's not a rookie - I think he meant for MVP.

3 Asian pitchers out of 6 finalists, that's pretty cool.



   10. vortex of dissipation Posted: November 03, 2020 at 12:57 PM (#5987145)
At least we know that they'll give out the awards. Last year, the Sawamura Award, usually given to the top starting pitcher in NPB, was not awarded because the committee decided that no-one deserved it.

"This year, we had an unusually long debate and everyone was able to respectfully give their opinion," said former pitcher Tsuneo Horiuchi, who served as chairman of the five-man committee of retired pitchers who voted on the honor this year. "After talking about various things, we decided there was no winner...we don't want the level of the Sawamura Award to drop. So the five of us came up with this decision."
   11. CFBF's Results are Certified Posted: November 03, 2020 at 03:56 PM (#5987163)
That is ice cold.
   12. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: November 03, 2020 at 04:28 PM (#5987172)
Sawamura Award,


It's the 5th time they haven't give out this award. Whether you agree or not, the award does have benchmarks and a hurler needs to meet most of the criteria to qualify for serious consideration,
these are:

25 games started, 10 complete games, 15 wins, .600 winning percentage, 200 innings pitched, 150 strikeouts and an ERA of 2.50 or lower

So some pretty old school barometers there. I must say I do love the 10 complete games component, that'd be the toughest to meet I would imagine.
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 03, 2020 at 05:37 PM (#5987179)
we don't want the level of the Sawamura Award to drop.
...followed by a cough that sounded a lot like he was saying "Bedrosian."
   14. Howie Menckel Posted: November 03, 2020 at 09:24 PM (#5987190)
After talking about various things, we decided there was no winner...

the Pulitzer Prize Committee has been known to do this on occasion: they announce the three finalists in a category, but then take pains to let you know that.. well, meh. no winner.
   15. Snowboy Posted: November 03, 2020 at 09:33 PM (#5987191)
Sounds like tonight's US election?
   16. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: November 04, 2020 at 11:35 AM (#5987209)
So basically Horiuchi was like "nobody is as cool as me" and doesn't give out the award. (Horiuchi won twice.)

In case anyone is interested in footage of old Japanese players, here's a game that Horiuchi appeared in. He shows up around the 1:55 mark wearing #21.
   17. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: November 04, 2020 at 11:36 AM (#5987211)
And of course I forgot the link.

LINK
   18. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: November 04, 2020 at 02:47 PM (#5987241)

Max Fried was not a finalist for Cy Young. That was surprising. He led in WAR for pitchers, but hard to judge based on 70 innings.


Max Fried only pitched 56 innings this season. I guess with the postseason he pitched 68.2 IP, but he was pretty far down the list of regular season IP leaders.

Fried also benefits from a pretty extreme hitters' park factor in Atlanta this year. And he gets a bit of a bonus in bWAR for pitching in front of a bad defense, despite the fact that his ERA was significantly better than his FIP (he only had 1.5 fWAR since they use FIP rather than RA).

All of which is to say I can understand why he wasn't in the top 3.
   19. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: November 04, 2020 at 06:12 PM (#5987310)
I know pitchers don't win MVP awards (usually), but it seems weird to me that Shane Bieber wasn't in the top three.
   20. Cooper Nielson Posted: November 05, 2020 at 01:52 AM (#5987332)
He's not a rookie, had over 300 PA in 2019. You must not have been following baseball very closely last year, either. :)

Strange comment. The excerpt from the article was entirely about the NL MVP race and my comment focused only on MVPs.

Tatis was actually on my fantasy team in his rookie season, I was very happy to have him. :)

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