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Monday, April 27, 2020

Here’s each team’s fiercest rival—right now

Even without baseball so far this year, one thing remains constant among baseball fans: Everybody hates their rival. It is almost as fun to cheer for your team’s rival to lose as it is to cheer for your team to win itself. Baseball rivalries are eternal.

They are, however, dynamic and ever-changing. Sometimes, a team’s rival can ebb and flow; sometimes, circumstances dictate the rival. So, today, we take a look at each team’s most hated rival right now. And what’s interesting is that a team’s main rival isn’t always mutual.

And just to make sure we spread all the anger around: We’ll even give each team a runner up.

Well, at least the pick for the Giants makes perfect sense…..

 

QLE Posted: April 27, 2020 at 12:48 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John Northey Posted: April 27, 2020 at 02:08 AM (#5944806)
Meh. For the Jays for years it was the Tigers then they went to the Central. The Brewers also, same fate. The Rays are more of a rival - when the Jays were winning they were the biggest pain the rear end, heck, the Rays always felt like a pain.
   2. Paul d mobile Posted: April 27, 2020 at 09:13 AM (#5944849)
Texas was a bit of a rival through the recent playoff years, although given that there aren't any players left from those teams, maybe that doesn't matter.
   3. JJ1986 Posted: April 27, 2020 at 09:42 AM (#5944865)
I still consider the Cardinals to be the Mets rival. It can't be a team in the other league.
   4. The Duke Posted: April 27, 2020 at 10:47 AM (#5944906)
It is interesting how things change. Cards and Cubs just have a huge historical rivalry that transcends quality of play. The cards have had some very different rivalries over the years. Mets- cardinals were huge for a while. Astros - cardinals were big for a while. Cards have had years of playoff rivalries with the Dodgers. Reds/cards have been more mean-spirited with Cards fans hating on Cueto and reds fans hating on Molina. Brewers and Cards have had some really good rivalries for several years now. Bringing the brewers into the central has created a three way rivalry with chicago-Milwaukee- St. Louis as it is easy for The fans to go to each teams ballpark.

I wish they would bring KC into the NL central and move the pirates out. I think that would really supercharge the rivalries.
   5. Baldrick Posted: April 27, 2020 at 12:30 PM (#5944961)
Mariners -- Angels
There may be no team in baseball with a less obvious rival than the Mariners.
Runner-up: Astros

The Mariners' biggest rival is the Mariners.
   6. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: April 27, 2020 at 12:38 PM (#5944965)
Like how the Crew, Cards, Cubs are a group hate thing. Last two seasons have had a ton of really good games. After beating the Cubs in game 163 next best might be Braun's 9th inning dinger last season to beat the Cards.
   7. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: April 27, 2020 at 03:37 PM (#5945086)
The Cardinals could be the main rival for half of the NL.

The Pirates have been in their share of dustups the past few years. I thought they'd at least make someone's no. 2 rival, and they probably would have five years ago. I would put them ahead of Cleveland as the Reds' runnerup, the prestige of the Ohio Cup notwithstanding. The Reds have faced off against Pittsburgh in the postseason in like half of their playoff seasons going back to the Big Red Machine.
   8. Snowboy Posted: April 27, 2020 at 05:02 PM (#5945142)
Texas was a bit of a rival [for Toronto] through the recent playoff years, although given that there aren't any players left from those teams, maybe that doesn't matter.

Rougned Odor is still on the Rangers, and he still stinks.
Unless bb-ref hasn't reported his trade. Or release? Did you know he posted a 79 OPS+ in 2019, and led the league in SO?
According to bb-ref's OOTP-21 Simulated Stats, he's at .227/.306/.307 this year.
STINKS!
   9. Snowboy Posted: April 27, 2020 at 05:06 PM (#5945147)
Further, in Primer Dugout today, it was posted that bb-ref has an auto-complete feature when you search.
("b" brings up Barry Bonds, "m" brings up Willie Mays, etc)
You know what comes up first when you type "odor"
Jake Odorizzi
You STINK, Odor.
   10. vortex of dissipation Posted: April 27, 2020 at 05:26 PM (#5945158)
Mariners -- Angels
There may be no team in baseball with a less obvious rival than the Mariners.
Runner-up: Astros


I agree with the statement that there is no obvious rival for the Mariners, but my feeling would be that if you asked the fans here, they'd say the Blue Jays. They came into the league at the same time, but the main reason is that when Toronto plays in Seattle, Blue Jays fans flock down from Canada to see them, and the atmosphere feels more like a Blue Jays home game. Mariners fans resent that...
   11. Baldrick Posted: April 27, 2020 at 06:39 PM (#5945205)
I agree with the statement that there is no obvious rival for the Mariners, but my feeling would be that if you asked the fans here, they'd say the Blue Jays. They came into the league at the same time, but the main reason is that when Toronto plays in Seattle, Blue Jays fans flock down from Canada to see them, and the atmosphere feels more like a Blue Jays home game. Mariners fans resent that...

Lifelong Mariners fan, though I haven't lived in the northwest since the early 2000s. I would not put the Jays anywhere close to the top of the rivalry list. I know some folks do resent the Canadian takeover, so I guess they're probably above other random Central or East teams. But I'd say they're far less hated than the Yankees and (presumably nowadays) Red Sox, as well as certainly all the division rivals.

In my mind, it's still the A's by a long way, with the Yankees being so loathsome that they outpace the other AL West teams.
   12. John Northey Posted: April 27, 2020 at 11:08 PM (#5945277)
For AL teams I'd say the Red Sox and Yankees are always top rivals. Sadly it doesn't go the other way.

I really hope if they ever do another major re-alignment that the Jays get into a division with the Tigers again as that was a fun one. Cleveland is a 'meh' despite being physically close. A new Montreal team would be an automatic rival for fans.
   13. Brian C Posted: April 27, 2020 at 11:15 PM (#5945280)
The Cubs/Cards/Brewers triangle is interesting. I feel like the Cubs/Brewers rivalry is "fiercer" RIGHT NOW than Cubs/Cards, although I would still say that the Cubs/Cards rivalry is deeper and more meaningful. I feel like a lot of Cards fans probably feel the same way about the two rivals, respectively. And in turn, Brewers fans just kind of hate everyone ... lots of vitriol emanating from Wisconsin these days.

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