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Thursday, December 08, 2011

Heyman: Wilson signs with angels $75M 5 yrs

That’s, actually, that’s a really fair price.  I think quite a few clubs would have been happy to make that deal for Wilson.

I’d blockquote, but the thread title above contains the entirety of the tweet in question.  An earlier tweet from Joel Sherman was the first report of the deal.

Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:14 PM | 74 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. TerpNats Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:20 PM (#4010247)
Expect parking at Anaheim to be much more expensive, thanks to CJ and Albert.
   2. NJ in NJ Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:23 PM (#4010253)
I think this is a great deal and I'm really pissed the Yankees weren't in on it.
   3. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:24 PM (#4010254)
Really, why were none of the Red Sox, Yankees, or Cubs involved at this price? With Pujols you can see the "winner's curse" in the contract, but this is very fair money for a pitcher who's been an All-Star two years running.
   4. Mr Dashwood Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:25 PM (#4010257)
This should reduce the per cent of payroll devoted to Pujols' salary.
   5. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:26 PM (#4010261)
CBS Sports report has contract creeping up to $77.5M.
   6. Shredder Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:26 PM (#4010262)
He'll be a pretty solid fourth starter. I can't wait to see the Angels presser when they introduce their big free agent haul of Pujols, Wilson, and........latroy hawkins.
   7. McCoy Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:27 PM (#4010263)
Well, my offseason plans for the Cubs have basically been thrown in the fire.
   8. McCoy Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:28 PM (#4010266)
Really, why were none of the Red Sox, Yankees, or Cubs involved at this price? With Pujols you can see the "winner's curse" in the contract, but this is very fair money for a pitcher who's been an All-Star two years running.

Because if they were in on it this wouldn't be the final price.
   9. Shredder Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:28 PM (#4010268)
By the way, how is Jerry DiPoto doing? Not a bad first real GM gig to fall into. I can only imagine Arte's pitch as "You're going to take over a fairly decent team, with an average to better than average farm system, I'm going to give you the authority to get rid of Jeff Mathis and, oh yeah, I'll give you another $40MM to spend this year."
   10. Dan The Mediocre is one of "the rest" Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:29 PM (#4010269)
Between this and Pujols, I think it's fair to say that Theo is just going to tank this year.
   11. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:29 PM (#4010270)
Because if they were in on it this wouldn't be the final price.
That's possible, but why wouldn't they bid to find out?
   12. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:30 PM (#4010273)
Really, why were none of the Red Sox, Yankees, or Cubs involved at this price?


Is it possible that we should read this as at least the former two are going to go balls to the wall for Darvish?
   13. NJ in NJ Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:31 PM (#4010274)
Because if they were in on it this wouldn't be the final price.

IIRC, Wilson is a 5 WAR pitcher. There's lots of wiggle room between 5/75 and "We probably shouldn't sign him at this money/length"
   14. Shredder Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:33 PM (#4010277)
I can't believe they got him for less than they're paying Weaver. I mean, Weaver's a lot better, but he also took a pretty sizable discount to stay in Anaheim.
   15. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:34 PM (#4010280)
When they fall short of a Championship, we will all know the reason why - NO JEFF MATHIS.
   16. NJ in NJ Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:35 PM (#4010284)
I can't believe they got him for less than they're paying Weaver. I mean, Weaver's a lot better, but he also took a pretty sizable discount to stay in Anaheim.

At this point, I probably sound like CJ Wilson's agent and/or mom, but...is he? fWAR has Weaver with a 1 win advantage over the last 2 years (Wilson's time as a starter). I continue to think everyone is underrating Wilson.
   17. bunyon Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:38 PM (#4010292)
I continue to think everyone is underrating Wilson.

I think so, too, but it also seems the likely reason the usual suspects weren't in on him. It's also why it's a "fair" contract.

It'll be interesting to see which turns out better: the Pujols contract or the Wilson contract?
   18. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:38 PM (#4010294)
At this point, I probably sound like CJ Wilson's agent and/or mom, but...is he? fWAR has Weaver with a 1 win advantage over the last 2 years (Wilson's time as a starter). I continue to think everyone is underrating Wilson.
Weaver's got a career ERA about 0.30 better than his FIP. CHONE WAR has the gap at 3 wins (12.2 to 9.4). I'd say a win better (the average of the two) qualifies as "much better".
   19. NJ in NJ Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:41 PM (#4010305)
[18] Didn't realize Weaver was a guy who FIP doesn't really work for. Thanks.
   20. The District Attorney Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:43 PM (#4010309)
Expect parking at Anaheim to be much more expensive, thanks to CJ and Albert.
Well, whaddaya think is gonna happen across town if McCourt has to support a $5 million/year massage habit entirely off the parking lot?
   21. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:44 PM (#4010310)
I don't know about the Yankees, but it's pretty obvious that the Red Sox are not going to be signing any significant free agents. Club President Larry Lucchino said on WEEI this morning that the door was a lot more open to a big trade than it was to a big signing. Amd it makes sense. Consider:

They are locked in, barring a trade, at 1B (Gonzalez), 2B (Pedroia), 3B (Youkilis), LF (Crawford), CF (Ellsbury), DH (Ortiz), their top three starting pitchers (Beckett, Lester, Buchholz), some of the rest of their pitching staff (Bard, Aceves).

Because of Lackey and Crawford, they have problems that they can't simply throw money at to solve. Because they have Scutaro in 2012 at reasonable money, and because they have other holes, they really aren't looking for a shortstop. If the team didn't have Lackey, they probably would go after Wilson - Wilson cost less than Lackey - but they can't...

The Yankees seem to have similar situations. Both teams would be in on the right kind of starting pitching, but the Marlins and Angels have become very aggressive. Now that both are probably out of the bidding, are remaining free agents going to find a pretty dry market?
   22. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:49 PM (#4010318)
This CJ Wilson situation is really unusual, since normally when a starting pitcher becomes a free agent he's been a starter since the beginning of his career and has a much bigger track record. When was the last time the top free-agent starter had as few career starts as CJ Wilson has? (73)

Derek Lowe had 120 starts when he was signed by the Dodgers.
   23. McCoy Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:49 PM (#4010319)
Who else is left besides Fielder?


Pretty much all B level FA have been waiting for Pujols and Fielder to leave the room and the C level and lower FA have simply been scurrying around locking up jobs as fast as they can.

What is left?

Fielder, Aramis, Willingham?
   24. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:51 PM (#4010321)
If the team didn't have Lackey, they probably would go after Wilson - Wilson cost less than Lackey - but they can't...
They can, if they spend the money. It's certainly possible that Henry has required the club not add payroll, but they suggested last year they'd be cutting payroll and then went out and spent big. I didn't buy the stories at first, but now I'm starting to believe.

In any case, it's not "can't", it's "won't".
   25. spivey Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:52 PM (#4010324)
A fair deal. On the other hand, I'm kind of happy with the Rangers not resigning him. It's a solid chunk of change, and while he was great the last 2 years I'm not convinced he's going to keep it up. It's only been 2 years, I'm not convinced his arm can handle this kind of workload for 5 more, and his control problems are such that I think he's a little riskier than his WAR would suggest.
   26. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:53 PM (#4010326)
From Keith Law's top 10;

#1 Fielder
#3 Darvish
#5 Rollins
#7 Ramirez
#9 Beltran

Moving past that everyone else except Papelbon from 11 through 20 is available I think.
   27. NJ in NJ Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:54 PM (#4010327)
[23] Oswalt is still out there (unless I missed something).
   28. DL from MN Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:55 PM (#4010329)
Lackey for Vernon Wells?
   29. Fat Al Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:56 PM (#4010330)
Lackey for Vernon Wells?


Hmm.
   30. toratoratora Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:57 PM (#4010332)
Wilson cost less than Lackey


That hurts so much to read.
   31. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 08, 2011 at 04:59 PM (#4010336)
Lackey for Vernon Wells?
Remaining contracts for Lackey and Wells:

2012: $15M / 2013: $15M / 2014: $15M (Lackey)
2012: $21M / 2013: $21M / 2014: $21M (Wells)

Why, exactly, would the Red Sox do that?
   32. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:00 PM (#4010341)
In any case, it's not "can't", it's "won't".


A very smart man wrote this in early October;

By my accounting, the Red Sox have about $25M to spend on open roster spots in the rotation, bullpen, shortstop, and DH.


Put $6 million on Scutaro and ~$14 million on Ortiz and that doesn't leave a lot left. They would probably have to bump payroll up by $10-20 million to seriously get in on a guy like CJ. My guess is they may be willing to do that for Darvish if they view him as a potential impact player. I think Wilson is viewed as "very good pitcher" rather than "game changer."

They also may be hanging back with an eye toward some in-season flexibility. This is where the new playoff structure may change things. If they feel they have a good chance to be a top 5 AL team maybe they hang back a bit rathert han tying themselves up.

Or maybe they are being cheap but their track record isn't to go that route.
   33. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:02 PM (#4010342)
Fielder, Aramis, Willingham?


Carlos Guillen! Whatever happened to him?

Also Furcal, Rollins, Beltran, Casey Blake, Johnny Damon, Vlad Guerrero, Ryan Ludwick, Fukudome, Matsui, Carlos Pena, Raul Ibanez. I think we'll have quite a few "guy doesn't retire but nobody wants to give him a full-time job" scenarios. Andruw Jones, Magglio Ordonez, Aaron Rowand...

Wily Mo Pena has gone to the Fukuoka Softbank Hawks.
   34. smileyy Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:06 PM (#4010349)

He'll be a pretty solid fourth starter. I can't wait to see the Angels presser when they introduce their big free agent haul of Pujols, Wilson, and........latroy hawkins.


LaTroy Hawkins seems to to be the perfect guy to clench his fists and scream into the air as smoke swirls around his feet; all this after the three were slowly revealed vis rising platforms.
   35. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:12 PM (#4010357)
So, the Angels kind of stole the Marlins thunder a bit here.

Beltran, even at his age, is probably the best free agent still available other than Fielder (EDIT: and Darvish). I think whoever signs him will be very happy with the move.
   36. NJ in NJ Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:14 PM (#4010361)
This is where the new playoff structure may change things. If they feel they have a good chance to be a top 5 AL team maybe they hang back a bit rathert han tying themselves up.

LAA, TBR, NYY, BOS, TEX and maybe DET should all project as 90+ win teams. It's not going to be easy to make the playoffs this coming year.
   37. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:17 PM (#4010364)
What a steal! The Yankees should have been all over this.
   38. Shredder Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:19 PM (#4010366)
Why, exactly, would the Red Sox do that?
You're failing to factor in the additional money the Sox have to lay out on beer and chicken for Lackey.
   39. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:21 PM (#4010369)
LaTroy Hawkins seems to to be the perfect guy to clench his fists and scream into the air as smoke swirls around his feet; all this after the three were slowly revealed vis rising platforms.


Latroy Hawkins is too dignified for that. They need Coco Crisp. As it stands now, they haven't acquired a single overpaid centerfielder this offseason, for the first time possibly ever.
   40. formerly dp Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:22 PM (#4010370)
they haven't acquired a single overpaid veteran ex-centerfielder this offseason, for the first time possibly ever.

I read that Rios is available for the right price.
   41. formerly dp Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:26 PM (#4010376)
I don't know why Beltran isn't attracting more interest from an AL club-- he had a 152 OPS+ last year and played in 140 games. He looked OK in RF last year too, at least while he was with the Mets.
   42. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:29 PM (#4010379)
So, MLBTR says Rangers and Red Sox are not in on Darvish.

Looks like he's the Yankees' if they want him. I wonder if this was their plan all along. Otherwise, not bidding on Wilson was insane.
   43. Paul D(uda) Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:50 PM (#4010408)
I believe Toronto is also in on Darvish.
   44. Hombre Brotani Posted: December 08, 2011 at 05:53 PM (#4010413)
Weaver, Wilson, Haren and Santana look like one of the best rotations in the league. Replacing Piñero/Palmer/Richards with Wilson could mean a six-win swing from just Wilson alone. That's pretty good.
   45. NJ in NJ Posted: December 08, 2011 at 06:02 PM (#4010426)
It took me 10 re-reads before I realized [34] wasn't a DBZ reference.
   46. asinwreck Posted: December 08, 2011 at 06:10 PM (#4010436)
I read that Rios is available for the right price.


We'll even throw in a Peavy and a Dunn. Our prices are insane!
   47. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 08, 2011 at 06:17 PM (#4010450)
I believe Toronto is also in on Darvish.

Interesting. They've got lots of young pitching. I'd thought that if they were spending $100M, they go for a bat, like Fielder.
   48. MM1f Posted: December 08, 2011 at 06:45 PM (#4010499)
Why, exactly, would the Red Sox do that?

Lackey will be out with surgery all year next year, so Wells has a bigger contract but he would play three seasons for you rather than two.

Of course, whether you want either play to play even one season for you is an open question
   49. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: December 08, 2011 at 06:48 PM (#4010508)
What a steal! The Yankees should have been all over this.
I'm glad they aren't. I'm going on the record now that Wilson's deal ends up looking worse than Pujols' by the time each one ends.
   50. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: December 08, 2011 at 06:54 PM (#4010520)
Lackey will be out with surgery all year next year, so Wells has a bigger contract but he would play three seasons for you rather than two.


I doubt that's a sweetener in this scenario.

V-Dub is done. He looked all kinds of overmatched last year - in the field and in the batters box. Dude needs to be DFA'd.
   51. bunyon Posted: December 08, 2011 at 06:58 PM (#4010525)
I said this in another thread, but Wells was just on MLB-TV and I found I really liked him. I'd never known much about him beyond his awful contract. Seemed like a great interview.
   52. formerly dp Posted: December 08, 2011 at 07:01 PM (#4010530)
V-Dub is done. He looked all kinds of overmatched last year - in the field and in the batters box. Dude needs to be DFA'd.

OPS+ by year (age)
2006: 129 (27)
2007: 85 (28)
2008: 122 (29)
2009: 86 (30)
2010: 125 (31)
2011: 83 (32)

Just throwing that out there...he probably has no business playing the field, but he might not be as crispy as he looked last year.
   53. Rants Mulliniks Posted: December 08, 2011 at 07:01 PM (#4010531)
I believe Toronto is also in on Darvish.

Interesting. They've got lots of young pitching.


They've had "lots of young pitching" for five or six years now, and so far the only one who's actually turned into something is Romero, and I guess Marcum, although he was 25 before he contributed anything and missed all of 2009.
   54. ?Donde esta Dagoberto Campaneris? Posted: December 08, 2011 at 07:02 PM (#4010534)
V-Dub is done. He looked all kinds of overmatched last year - in the field and in the batters box.

He looked the same way in 09- and then followed that up with 4.4 oWAR season in 2010.

He may be done, but with his roller coaster career numbers, there's no way to know. He did have two separate, month-long chunks of the season last year where he looked like a MLB player. DFAing him at his point would be silly.

EDIT- Coke to fdp
   55. BWV 1129 Posted: December 08, 2011 at 07:09 PM (#4010547)
I'm not a huge believer in Wilson due to his control issues over the years, but this is a much more modest deal than I had anticipated him getting, so the price ameliorates my concerns somewhat.
   56.  Posted: December 08, 2011 at 07:19 PM (#4010563)
The off-season sure is fun when all the free agents go to two teams.
   57. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: December 08, 2011 at 07:29 PM (#4010575)
He did have two separate, month-long chunks of the season last year where he looked like a MLB player. DFAing him at his point would be silly.


No he didn't. He had one month with an OPS above .738. That month he OPS'd .821 with an OBP of .295. He was - at no point - a consistent major league player in 2011. Not in the field and not in the batters box. Remember, he is a corner outfielder. His OPS should not spike to reach .821 with an OBP under .300. He isn't worth the plate appearances any longer.

Listen, I get that he is volatile, but he was playing 1/2 his games in Anaheim where he hit a whopping .201/.227/.336, That's Mathis-esque right there. I wouldn't complain one bit if he was DFA'd so that the Mike Trout era can start a year early.
   58. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: December 08, 2011 at 07:34 PM (#4010581)
So, MLBTR says Rangers and Red Sox are not in on Darvish.
Well, it says that a reporter tweeted (with notable lack of direct quotation) that Cherington said the Red Sox are unlikely to be in on Darvish. That's not a no. And now MLBTR has the Yankees interest being "lukewarm". The Rangers report is a "sources indicate", and it specifically says they don't want to spend $100M - even taken at face value, that doesn't mean they wouldn't take a shot at $90M. I think a lot of clubs are trying to camouflage their interests.

That doesn't mean I think the Sox are in, but I don't think "Sox are not in" is a good statement of what we know at this moment.
   59. formerly dp Posted: December 08, 2011 at 07:40 PM (#4010595)
Listen, I get that he is volatile, but he was playing 1/2 his games in Anaheim where he hit a whopping .201/.227/.336, That's Mathis-esque right there. I wouldn't complain one bit if he was DFA'd so that the Mike Trout era can start a year early.

I wouldn't want him on my team, but I think what those of us who have followed Wells for a while are saying is that this isn't the first time he has looked completely valueless at the plate for a whole season-- I don't think even the most optimistic fans in Toronto expected his 2010.

I didn't realize how consistent his on-year/off-year pattern had become.
   60. Shredder Posted: December 08, 2011 at 07:49 PM (#4010608)
Listen, I get that he is volatile, but he was playing 1/2 his games in Anaheim where he hit a whopping .201/.227/.336, That's Mathis-esque right there. I wouldn't complain one bit if he was DFA'd so that the Mike Trout era can start a year early.
DFAing him doesn't do anything to make Trout closer to reality. If Trout is ready, he'll play, and Wells will pinch hit. They're paying him either way. It doesn't make sense to make a rash move now. Let him go through spring training and hang around for a month or two.
   61. ?Donde esta Dagoberto Campaneris? Posted: December 08, 2011 at 07:51 PM (#4010611)
Remember, he is a corner outfielder. His OPS should not spike to reach .821 with an OBP under .300.

League average OPS for the AL last year was .730. For a player in Anaheim, it's lower than that. Sure a corner guy should do better than that (though the league average LF out up a .703 OPS) but I said month-long, not months. From June 10 to the break, his OPS was over .850. For the month after Trout's call-up in August, Vernon put up a 317/343/644 in over 100 PA's. Is that cherry-picked? Sure, but he hit well for stretches, has a roller coaster history, and his best stretch was at the end of the season. I'm not saying he will be an All-star, but not even trying to see if he will hit next year, that would be silly.

He's one season removed from being a very good offensive player. Not giving him a chance to be a serviceable one- and throwing out 60 million dollars in the process- is not reasonable.
   62. Sweatpants Posted: December 08, 2011 at 08:04 PM (#4010622)
2006: 129 (27)
2007: 85 (28)
2008: 122 (29)
2009: 86 (30)
2010: 125 (31)
2011: 83 (32)
Kind of weird that both of the big Ricciardi contract guys have been like that the past four years (and the good years have coincided with each other's). Rios' valleys have been even lower than Wells'.
   63. Pleasant Nate (Upgraded from 'Nate') Posted: December 08, 2011 at 08:11 PM (#4010632)
With the Cardinals losing Pujols and the Brewers losing Fielder, 6 of the 7 best teams in baseball are now in the AL (LAA, TEX, DET, NYY, BOS, TB, and then PHI even if they lose Rollins/Oswalt).

The Braves, Marlins, and nobody from the West will make that cut. I suppose the Cardinals would be back in if they nabbed Fielder, or maybe the Marlins or Braves if they added Darvish.

But that's an insane amount of concentrated talent in the AL.
   64. formerly dp Posted: December 09, 2011 at 12:43 AM (#4010941)
Kind of weird that both of the big Ricciardi contract guys have been like that the past four years (and the good years have coincided with each other's). Rios' valleys have been even lower than Wells'.

For fun (and only fun because neither are with the team anymore):
2008: 112 (27)
2009: 79 (28)
2010: 111 (29)
2011: 65 (!!!) (30)

I did not realize how badly he played in 2011. His peaks never approached Vern's, either. Based on how poorly he hit in the minors and in his 23 and 24 seasons, I was never a supporter of Rios, but even being down on him, this was not the path I expected.
   65. The District Attorney Posted: December 09, 2011 at 01:08 AM (#4010962)
[Wells is] one season removed from being a very good offensive player. Not giving him a chance to be a serviceable one- and throwing out 60 million dollars in the process- is not reasonable.
Which one of Trout, Bourjos, Torii, Kendrys or Pujols do you want to bench for him?
   66. Tripon Posted: December 09, 2011 at 01:13 AM (#4010963)
It'll probably be Trout or Kendrys. The team can also trade/cut Bobby Abreu.
   67. ?Donde esta Dagoberto Campaneris? Posted: December 09, 2011 at 01:25 AM (#4010969)
Trout, but I don't see him getting benched. Pujols, Bourjos and Hunter (unless Hunter gets moved) will start. Trout will spend two months in the minors working on his skills against RH pitching (against which he struggled last year) before they worry about him. If Wells doesn't hit, up comes Trout (or Trumbo gets the LF job.) If Wells does hit, you save some of Trout's service time.

Kendrys is still only a hypothetical. If Morales gets healthy, Trout doesn't become a full time player until next year after Hunter moves on. Or sooner if Hunter and Wells look like toast (or you can make a reasonable move.) In any case, the logjam clears after this season and Trout is still a pup, so there's no reason to panic. If Well doesn't produce by Memorial Day, he gets dumped. But I'd give him ABs before I did that. With the staff they have and their new firstbaseman, the Angels can afford to play Wells and see if he recovers before they dump him.
   68. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: December 09, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#4010976)
Has anyone had as many consecutive ops+ swings of 35 or more points as Wells?
   69. Hombre Brotani Posted: December 09, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#4010979)
Torii Hunter has a no-trade, but he's also in the last year of his deal. If the Angels make it clear that he's not coming back (and really, there's no reason to think the Angels will want to extend him), Hunter may wave the no-trade to go to a good team that needs a corner OF, especially if the Angels kick in cash.
   70.  Posted: December 09, 2011 at 03:02 AM (#4011082)


I did not realize how badly he played in 2011. His peaks never approached Vern's, either. Based on how poorly he hit in the minors and in his 23 and 24 seasons, I was never a supporter of Rios, but even being down on him, this was not the path I expected.


And in 2009 while those two were hitting like turds, Adam Lind emerged with a 141 OPS+ at age 25, and Aaron Hill put up a 114 from second base. But of course the next year Lind plummeted to 90 and Hill to I don't even want to look it up.

If only the Jays could get some of their players to have good years in the same season...Next year Colby Rasmus is going to put up a 150 while Brett Lawrie struggles to break 75. Infuriating.
   71.  Posted: December 09, 2011 at 03:19 AM (#4011098)
Has anyone had as many consecutive ops+ swings of 35 or more points as Wells?

You know the answer..
   72. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: December 09, 2011 at 06:22 AM (#4011224)
DFAing him doesn't do anything to make Trout closer to reality. If Trout is ready, he'll play, and Wells will pinch hit. They're paying him either way. It doesn't make sense to make a rash move now. Let him go through spring training and hang around for a month or two.


Well yeah, I'm cool with him getting 250 PA's to see if he has anything left. But, I'm not exactly counting on anything more than .230/.280/.400. He looked bad all year last year. It was awful.
   73. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: December 09, 2011 at 06:27 AM (#4011227)
V-Dub's 2011 looks worse than a typical 83 OPS+ to me because of the lowered offensive environment. I am still remembering different "baseline" numbers for each position. I thought for sure Wells would have had a 65 OPS+ or something in 2011. He was terrible.

Hard to believe his numbers warrant an 83, actually.
   74. The District Attorney Posted: December 09, 2011 at 06:35 AM (#4011230)
Has anyone had as many consecutive ops+ swings of 35 or more points as Wells?

You know the answer..
So you're saying he has a high delta?

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