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Wednesday, December 21, 2011

HHS: 2012 Career milestones

Thanks to Baseball-Reference.com’s milestones page, we can see which players have a shot at major career milestones in 2012.

Ivan Rodriguez and Omar Vizquel both need about 150 hits to reach 3,000. It seems unlikely that either will get it, in 2012 or beyond.

Paul Konerko needs just 4 homers for 400. Vladimir Guerrero is 1 homer from 450 and Albert Pujols is 5 from the same mark. Unless one of those guys puts up a monster season, nobody will reach 500 homers in 2012.

Manny Ramirez needs 174 total bases to be the 20th player to reach 5000. I’ll go ahead and bet against this happening.

If Alex Rodriguez can get 103 RBI, he’ll pass Barry Bonds for 4th all-time behind just Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, and Cap Anson.

Roy Halladay needs 12 wins for 200. Tim Wakefield is the winningest active pitcher and he has 200 exactly. We aren’t going to see another 300-game winner for a long time—at least 5 years, probably at least 7 or 8.

Thanks to CF.

Repoz Posted: December 21, 2011 at 11:15 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Qufini Posted: December 21, 2011 at 02:31 PM (#4020936)
Glad to see that the 300-game winner comment was "not for a long time" rather than "never." Halladay has an outside shot at it and some of the younger pitchers (Sabathia, King Felix) could get there as well.
   2. UCCF Posted: December 21, 2011 at 02:37 PM (#4020943)
Paul Konerko needs just 4 homers for 400. Vladimir Guerrero is 1 homer from 450 and Albert Pujols is 5 from the same mark. Unless one of those guys puts up a monster season, nobody will reach 500 homers in 2012.

I would really like to see a 104 HR season out of Konerko. It would likely end the debate over whether he should be a Hall of Famer.
   3. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: December 21, 2011 at 02:41 PM (#4020945)
I would really like to see a 104 HR season out of Konerko. It would likely end the debate over whether he should be a Hall of Famer.


Remember, it's illegal to vote for a guy based on a 1 year achievement.
   4. Rally Posted: December 21, 2011 at 03:11 PM (#4020974)
I would really like to see a 104 HR season out of Konerko. It would likely end the debate over whether he should be a Hall of Famer.


It would kill his slim chances. 104 HR = steroids.
   5. BrianBrianson Posted: December 21, 2011 at 03:16 PM (#4020978)
Stats guys wouldn't be all that impressed with a .158/.158/.630 season with poor defence and baserunning.
   6. Krusty Posted: December 21, 2011 at 03:48 PM (#4021006)
If Alex Rodriguez can get 103 RBI, he’ll pass Barry Bonds for 4th all-time behind just Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, and Cap Anson.


I don't know why, but this stuck out to me as the biggest/coolest achievement we might see this year. A-Rod is only 36 (!) and he's poised to become 4th all time in RBI. That's just awesome.

Ivan Rodriguez and Omar Vizquel both need about 150 hits to reach 3,000. It seems unlikely that either will get it, in 2012 or beyond.


I can see Vizquel hanging around as long as somebody will play him and making a game of this. I think Pudge is going to get there in 2013 or early '14. He's still in terrific shape and he's still decent defensively. He definitely has the ego and the drive to drag on for 3000 the way Randy Johnson hung around for 300.
   7. Moloka'i Three-Finger Brown (Declino DeShields) Posted: December 21, 2011 at 03:53 PM (#4021016)
Ivan Rodriguez and Omar Vizquel both need about 150 hits to reach 3,000. It seems unlikely that either will get it, in 2012 or beyond.


Rodriguez might not be a more-likely-than-not bet for 3,000, but I think he's still got a somewhat decent shot. From what I've read, at least two or three teams are considering signing him as a backup, simply based on his defensive reputation and growing sage-veteran-catcher persona. Although he can't hit worth crap any longer, he'd be an injury away from getting decent playing time. So there's a path for him to narrow the goal down to about 75 remaining hits by the end of the season. At that point, it's conceivable that he could sputter along on backup assignments long enough to get to the milestone.

I guess Vizquel is kind of in the same boat, but he's five years older.
   8. jacjacatk Posted: December 21, 2011 at 03:54 PM (#4021019)
We aren’t going to see another 300-game winner for a long time—at least 5 years, probably at least 7 or 8
.

Moyer's only 33 wins from 300. Of course, if he can find a job it's probably going to involve long relief and a handful of spot starts, so 7-8 years might be right for him too.
   9. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: December 21, 2011 at 04:21 PM (#4021051)
I don't know why, but this stuck out to me as the biggest/coolest achievement we might see this year. A-Rod is only 36 (!) and he's poised to become 4th all time in RBI. That's just awesome.


I had the same reaction. I guess I didn't appreciate just how far up there he was on some of these numbers.
   10. John Northey Posted: December 21, 2011 at 04:42 PM (#4021074)
629 HR's for A-Rod so he is 1 HR from Griffey Jr and 31 from Willie Mays for 4th all-time as well. 85 shy of Ruth, 126 from Aaron, and 133 shy of Bonds. With just 16 last year but 30+ for 13 straight before that I'd say Mays is easily in eyeshot this year with Ruth reachable in 2013 but more likely in 2014. Aaron won't be until 2015 or 2016 and Bonds probably 2016/2017 area if A-Rod is healthy. Of course, any injuries will push things back.

2775 hits for A-Rod so 3000 is a bit out of reach this year but should be made in 2013.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: December 21, 2011 at 06:34 PM (#4021217)
I think Pudge is going to get there in 2013 or early '14.

He only had 27 hits last year. It was a bad year for him and it's not hard to see a backup getting another 50% more playing time but he needs at least 3 full seasons to do it and that's about the best-case scenario (200 AB a year, 250 BA ... which would still leave him 6 hits short). But #7 is correct that if he is a backup, he's just an injury away from 300-350 PA for a season.
   12. DL from MN Posted: December 21, 2011 at 06:50 PM (#4021238)
Pudge needs to go to a team like the Astros who don't have a good catcher, have nothing to play for and could use a gate draw. Even with that he still needs 2 years, he's not close enough to market the chase.
   13. Clemenza Posted: December 21, 2011 at 08:30 PM (#4021355)
4th all-time behind just Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, and Cap Anson

With 100 guesses I wouldn't have come up with Cap Anson in 3rd place on the all-time RBI list.
   14. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: December 22, 2011 at 04:29 PM (#4021870)
Pudge needs to go to a team like the Astros who don't have a good catcher

Tsk. It's "don't have no good catcher".

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