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Hicks signs 7-year deal with Yankees | MLB.com

A nice luxury tax friendly contract.

Outfielder Aaron Hicks has agreed to terms on a contract extension with the Yankees, a source told MLB.com Friday morning. The team, which has not confirmed the report, is expected to announce the extension later today. The deal is said to be for seven years and $70 million, as was first reported by Jack Curry of YES Network.

Jim Furtado Posted: February 25, 2019 at 09:11 AM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Blastin Posted: February 25, 2019 at 09:48 AM (#5817820)
Hicks is great and there was not a one good CF on the market next year.

   2. . . . . . . Posted: February 25, 2019 at 10:04 AM (#5817826)
Good pop, good eye, good speed, good D, good clubhouse guy, good ballplayer. He'll make a great 4th OF as he declines, too.
   3. rconn23 Posted: February 25, 2019 at 10:26 AM (#5817838)
The average value is great, and I love Hicks as a player. He's easily a top 5 centerfielder. The years, I'm not so sure about.
   4. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: February 25, 2019 at 10:48 AM (#5817849)
Hicks kind of came out of nowhere in NY after not showing much in Minnesota. Did the Yankees' coaches have some kind of specific insight the Twins' didn't?
   5. Blastin Posted: February 25, 2019 at 11:15 AM (#5817861)
It's so cheap that he basically only has to be worth like 10 WAR over the whole thing.
   6. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: February 25, 2019 at 11:52 AM (#5817886)
The Twins gave Hicks and Buxton the same development experience.
   7. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: February 25, 2019 at 11:56 AM (#5817888)
On a related note:

The Yankees Have a Tantalizing Young Core. Can They Keep It Intact?

TAMPA, Fla. — When the Yankees’ young slugger Aaron Judge looks up and down the team’s roster, he sees many players like him. There’s the soon-to-be-24-year-old third baseman, Miguel Andujar, who was the runner-up for the American League Rookie of the Year Award last season — just ahead of a teammate, second baseman Gleyber Torres, 22.

The opening day battery will most likely consist of 25-year-old Luis Severino, the staff ace, on the mound and Gary Sanchez, 26, crouched behind the plate. The heart of the lineup will include Judge, 26, already one of baseball’s most recognizable stars after only two full seasons.

“We’re going to be set for quite a few years to be doing a lot of good things in New York,” Judge said at the Yankees’ spring training base here.

After years of being carried by older players or building rapidly through free agency, the Yankees now have their best core of young players since the days of Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte and Bernie Williams coming up through the team’s system.

And while Judge is understandably optimistic about his team’s odds of competing for a World Series title, it is already fair to wonder how long this core group of players will remain together — and at what cost. ...
   8. Blastin Posted: February 25, 2019 at 01:16 PM (#5817919)
I would not be mad if the Yanks stole Buxton too...
   9. The Yankee Clapper Posted: February 25, 2019 at 01:55 PM (#5817956)
Hicks was already signed for this season ($6M), so the deal is really $64M/6 years in new money, but by adding a $2M bonus for 2019, the average annual value is lowered just a bit to $10M. Good deal for both sides. Some might want to wait a bit longer to be sure Hicks is worth the investment, but if you do the price would go up. Top prospect Estevan Florial is said to be 2 years away, so Hicks could face some competition before the contract is done. The lack of a NoTrade clause should give the Yankees some flexibility.
   10. DCA Posted: February 25, 2019 at 02:12 PM (#5817970)
Prospects like Florial (high risk, not close) should have zero impact on moves at the MLB roster level.

Should Florial force his week into the conversation in 2-3 years, that's a nice problem to have.

But if you let Hicks walk, fill the gap with a lesser placeholder, and then it turns out Florial never amounts to anything. That's not a nice problem to have.
   11. bbmck Posted: February 25, 2019 at 03:08 PM (#5818011)
Some reasonably recent young position player cores:

ATL: Rafael Furcal, Andruw Jones, Chipper Jones - Rafael leaves as FA
ATL: Freddie Freeman, Jason Heyward, Andrelton Simmons, Justin Upton - Freddie gets lonely
BOS: Rico Petrocelli, Reggie Smith, Carl Yastrzemski - Reggie and Ken Tatum for STL Bernie Carbo and Rick Wise
BOS: Dwight Evans, Fred Lynn, Jim Rice - Fred and Steve Renko for LAA Jim Dorsey, Joe Rudi and Frank Tanana
CIN: Johnny Bench, Pete Rose, Bobby Tolan - Bobby and Dave Tomlin for SDP for Clay Kirby
CIN: Kal Daniels, Eric Davis, Barry Larkin - kept the guy who didn't decline

DET: Steve Kemp, Lance Parrish, Jason Thompson, Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker - then turn Steve Kemp into CHW Chet Lemon, pretty good
HOU: Joe Morgan, Rusty Staub, Jim Wynn - Jim gets lonely
KCR: George Brett, Darrell Porter, Willie Wilson - Darrell leaves as FA
LAD: Delino DeShields, Raul Mondesi, Mike Piazza - Pedro Martinez for 370 Games of Delino, blown up
MIL: Sixto Lezcano, Paul Molitor, Robin Yount - Sixto, David Green, Dave LaPoint and Lary Sorensen for STL Rollie Fingers, Ted Simmons and Pete Vuckovich
MON: Gary Carter, Andre Dawson, Tim Raines, Ellis Valentine, Tim Wallach - someone managed to screw this up

NYY: Thurman Munson, Bobby Murcer, Roy White - turn a declining Bobby into Bobby Bonds, plane crashes suck
OAK: Sal Bando, Reggie Jackson, Rick Monday - Rick for CHC Ken Holtzman
SFG: Bobby Bonds, Garry Maddox, Gary Matthews - blown up
STL: Keith Hernandez, Ken Oberkfell, Ted Simmons, Garry Templeton - Garry, Sixto Lezcano and Luis DeLeon for SDP Ozzie Smith and Steve Mura and 3 worse trades for the Cardinals
TOR: George Bell, Tony Fernandez, Lloyd Moseby - Tony and Fred McGriff for SDP Roberto Alomar and Joe Carter, other two leave as FA when they are no longer good
   12. Walt Davis Posted: February 25, 2019 at 03:10 PM (#5818012)
Where are our age mavens? This deal takes him through age 35!!! He's even an old 29!!! His decline phase starts in the first round of the playoffs!!! Nobody over age 30 has ever produced a single WAR!!

Possibly seriously, this contract sure looks like the product of a broken FA market. Hicks was one year from FA and has put up 8.5 WAR over his last 940 PA. Cain entering age 32 and Fowler entering age 31 got 5/$80, Blackmon entering age 31 got 4/$77. Kiermaier got 6/$53 for 4 arb years and 2 FA years (ages 27-32) and Hicks can add just $64 for 6 FA years.

I know I wouldn't be able to look $70 M in the eye and not blink so I don't blame the guy. But, with ths year's salary, he was already over $10 M in career earnings and even a season-ending injury wouldn't keep him from adding at least a few more million to that as an FA. Yanks got a bargain.
   13. The Duke Posted: February 25, 2019 at 11:10 PM (#5818158)
It’s weird. Every deal but Machado and Harper will be “meh”. MLB has broken the back of free agency and now they will just ride that curve down as comps go the other way.

An enterprising private equity led-fund could put an eight team league out there and clean out the MLB of all their good players and minor leaguers. I’m surprised a Netflix or amazon hasn’t done this yet to get the programming.
   14. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: February 25, 2019 at 11:23 PM (#5818164)
It’s weird. Every deal but Machado and Harper will be “meh”. MLB has broken the back of free agency and now they will just ride that curve down as comps go the other way.

The upside is that teams now might have a better chance of holding onto some of their best young players. IMO that's not a bad thing.

An enterprising private equity led-fund could put an eight team league out there and clean out the MLB of all their good players and minor leaguers. I’m surprised a Netflix or amazon hasn’t done this yet to get the programming.

Maybe because they're not batshit crazy. They'd sign a handful of players and wind up like the World Football League.
   15. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: February 26, 2019 at 12:00 AM (#5818168)
Maybe because they're not batshit crazy. They'd sign a handful of players and wind up like the World Football League.


Sure Duke's idea is insane but companies like Netflix, Amazon or Apple(who has $289 billion in cash reserves) could certainly give it a better shake then the past mavericks of industry who have attempted their own leagues.

It did work in cricket way back when with Aussie billionaire Kerry Packer startin his own 1 day competitions called World Series Cricket. He had his own TV station and just paid for his own product and totally changed the path of cricket.
   16. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: February 26, 2019 at 12:09 AM (#5818170)
The last attempt at an upstart baseball league that poached MLB talent was the short lived Federal League which played 2 seasons... in 1914-15. At least back then, they had the American Association to look back on as a somewhat successful league just 30 years prior. Then there was the short lived Players League of 1890. But yeah, people know that MLB has the market covered. People are already fans of their teams and aren’t going to start paying attention to some rougue league.
   17. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: February 26, 2019 at 01:01 AM (#5818177)
He had his own TV station and just paid for his own product and totally changed the path of cricket.


Yeah, but cricket is different in a million ways than baseball. Much more tradition of (A) international play, and (B) guys playing for more than one team.

It also helps that ODI and 20-20 are clearly superior products to the hidebound snooze-fest that is traditional cricket.
   18. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: February 26, 2019 at 01:09 AM (#5818180)
People are already fans of their teams and aren’t going to start paying attention to some rougue league.


Dunno, I think Canadian Baseball is an idea with a chance.
   19. QLE Posted: February 26, 2019 at 02:27 AM (#5818184)
The last attempt at an upstart baseball league that poached MLB talent was the short lived Federal League which played 2 seasons... in 1914-15. At least back then, they had the American Association to look back on as a somewhat successful league just 30 years prior.


*Ban Johnson gets the feeling he's being ignored- and baseball historians know that's when he's at his most dangerous*
   20. Nasty Nate Posted: February 26, 2019 at 09:48 AM (#5818227)
Despite the revenue percentage, it would still be more expensive now to lure away good players than it would have been in the past, right?
   21. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: February 26, 2019 at 10:07 AM (#5818235)
An enterprising private equity led-fund could put an eight team league out there and clean out the MLB of all their good players and minor leaguers. I’m surprised a Netflix or amazon hasn’t done this yet to get the programming.

Maybe because they're not batshit crazy. They'd sign a handful of players and wind up like the World Football League.

Sure Duke's idea is insane but companies like Netflix, Amazon or Apple(who has $289 billion in cash reserves) could certainly give it a better shake then the past mavericks of industry who have attempted their own leagues.


First, an 8 team league would leave out 18 current Major League markets. Once you get rid of Miami and St. Pete, how many more cities would you want to write off?

Second, in order to compete with the Majors, you'd need to stage a de facto coup and sign enough superstars to make an immediate impact.

But the problem is that only a handful of superstars come up for free agency every year. And say this year the New York Hedge Funds signed Harper, while the Hollywood Stars got Machado. What other players with even remotely the same amount of name recognition are left for the other teams to sign? Would the Chicago Vote Thieves be able to build a marketing campaign around Dallas Keuchel or J. A. Happ? The Federal League actually had it much easier, and how long did they last?

   22. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: February 26, 2019 at 10:19 AM (#5818243)
[19] Oh yeah, the AL was of course a successful upstart and only 14 years before the FL.

As for an upstart league today, is there any reason they couldn’t just say “we will ignore your current contracts.” Players who jumped would certainly be in breach of contract, but if the new keague offered more money, it could be worth it. Just be like “hey Trout, we will give you a ten year $400m deal if you leave the Angels right now.” The problem with this is that players who buy in would have to be confident that the league would be successful. Otherwise, the keague could be closed down and then they’d be MLB pariahs for violating their contracts. All in all it’s a pretty silly idea.

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