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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Tuesday, January 20, 2009HUGE WBC update: Rosters for WBC released!!!(Link: Team-By-Team listing of what players from what MLB teams are on preliminary 45-man rosters) MLB has released the initial up-to-45 man rosters (i.e. not the final rosters) for the WBC. They don’t, alas, have a list of what organizations each player is with, so it is up to someone else to figure out where the non-MLB players are coming from. Australia has such names as Grant Balfour, Ryan Rowland-Smith and Phil Stockman on the roster. Canada has basically who you would expect to be on the Roster on the roster. Morneau, Bay and Rich Harden (should he participate) are the biggest names. Dempster isn’t on it. China is, well, China. I think only two or three of the players on the team have played in North America or have been signed as ceremonial “Hey, look, we signed a Chinese guy!” minor leaguers. Chinese Taipei has no “highlighted” (I.e. has a MLB.com page) players. Cuba has their usual roster of “amateur” all-stars. The Yankees and Mets both are holding out hope that somebody will defect this time (unlike in 2006). The Dominican is as good as you’d expect. The only position where they are weak is catcher. Italy, it would seem, has a surprising number of actual Italians on it, alongside such ringers as Jason Grilli, Frank Catalanotto and Nick Punto. Japan has Ichiro!, Dice-K, Yu Darvish, Aki Iwamura, Fukudome and more. Korea will try to repeat it’s amazing run from the first WBC, but looking at that roster, I don’t see it. Mexico put Matt Garza on the roster (even though he already said that he’d only pitch for America- although maybe the fact he wasn’t invited by USA will change that). When did the Hairston boys become Mexican? The Netherlands is the dark horse of the Tournament, in my opinion. They don’t want Andruw Jones either—but they’ll take Sidney Ponson. Of all the things that have happened to Andruw, that might be what hurts the most. Panama‘s mission this time around is not to get no-hit during the tourney. Puerto Rico has suspect pitching, but is good elsewhere, and have enough catching to fill a division. And, yes, Bernie Williams is on the roster. Of all the nations in the WBC, no country is bringing more of it’s star power than South Africa. A whole lot of good that will do it. USA! USA! The United States has incredible depth, although I must ask whether Davey Johnson watched Justin Verlander last season (he won’t make the final roster, right?). The US will do well if the players play like they care. I think what is needed is a call from Barack Obama, or, better yet, a promise that he will make them exempt from any new taxes from his administration if they win it all. With such incentive, they’d be unstoppable. Last but not least: Venezuela. You stay classy, Planet Earth. Gamingboy
Posted: January 20, 2009 at 02:25 AM | 45 comment(s)
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1. CraigK Posted: January 20, 2009 at 03:18 AM (#3055665)Where was the producer screaming into the ear of these commentators?
The list reveals that Mpho Ngoepe of the Pirates is actually more often referred to as "Gift" Ngoepe. So I will quote more from the article about Gift Ngoepe.
But anyway, my point was that Ngoepe is the only player with an African name on the South African team. I wonder how baseball got to be, as he says, in his blood.
Hey, they have Carlos Lee, Carlos Ruiz, Fernando Seguignol, Julio Zuleta, Jose Macias, Ruben Rivera, and Cirilo Cumberbatch!
The website is pretty stingy with the links to the players' mlb.com pages. Only Lee, Ruiz and for some reason Luis Durango have links.
That's right, Bernie Williams and Ruben Rivera will both be taking part.
Also, I might have to pony up for tickets to see Venezuela when they play in Toronto, if Felix, Johan, and Zambrano are starting.
Mother of god, that's younger than my sister. And I semi-clearly remember 1992. Now I feel old.
The World Baseball Classic is where history is made. ©
Still, I'd sure selfishly like to take Harden and probably Marmol off that list. I'd prefer Zambrano not go, but I think Zambrano has finally reached the age where I don't worry about his health and overuse as much as I once did.
A) He is not exactly irreplaceable
B) He has already missed an entire season for the Blue Jays with an injury, which might have lingering effects that reduced his strikeout numbers in 2008 and could make him more of an injury risk than other "healthy" players.
C) If he does get a serious injury, his contract as a whole becomes a total debacle for the Jays even if he comes back in 2010 and equals his 2006 performance.
For those who care:
Australia draws its players from the Claxton Shield (it's domestic competition), MLB/MiLB, NPB and the KBO. (and free agents)
Canada draws players from MLB/MilB, NPB (Aaron Guiel) and free agents.
China draws players from it's league, three players from MiLB and one (Dawei Zhu) from NPB.
CT draws from MLB/MiLB, Chinese Taipei Collegiate ranks, the CPBL (the main source, obviously), the NPB, Amateur ranks and Free Agents.
Cuba is entirely from the CBL.
DR is entirely from MLB/MiLB and (MLB/MiLB level) free agents.
Italy is from MLB/MiLB, FIBS (Italian League) and free agents.
Japan is from NPB and MLB/MiLB.
Korea draws from KBO, MLB/MiLB, NPB and free agents.
Mexico draws from MLB/MiLB, Mexican League and one player from the KBO (so that's what happened to Karim Garcia!)
Netherlands draw from the Hoofdklasse, MLB/MiLB, Mexican League, Atlantic League and free agents.
Panama draws from MLB/MiLB, NPB, Mexican League and free agents.
Puerto Rico: all MLB/MiLB players or free agents.
South Africa is a eclectic mix of Minor Leaguers, American Collegiates, players in the SABU (domestic competition) and a lone player in the Claxton Shield.
USA is all MLB.
Venezuela is MLB/MiLB, but with one Venezuelan League player, a Atlantic Leaguer, a NPB player (Alex Cabrera) added as well
Yeah, the Mets are also sending a ton of players to this thing:
Reyes/Wright/Beltran/Delgado/Schneider/K-Rod/Putz/Feliciano/Santana/Ollie
Cirilo Cumberbatch is a spectacular name. I need a Cirilo Cumberbatch replica jersey.
Who is Karim Garcia?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/2009_World_Baseball_Classic_(Rosters)
South Africa with by far the most, and both the US and the DR with zero.
EDIT:
I'd also be extremely scared of the Darvish/Matsuzaka combo from JPN.
The US team ought to be good (although that was true last time) and I still like that Venezuala rotation with Santana, King Felix and Carlos Zambrano (although I put money on Venezuala last time and that didn't work out).
I'm going to root for semifinal matches of:
US v. Cuba and Japan v. Venezuala
that would be pretty fun.
The Pirates: we can't even win when we don't have to play for the Pirates.
Do we know the brackets yet? Where are DR and Korea?
Braves are sending 16 players (including MiLB).
Cubs have at least 17. As do the Reds and I think a few other teams. So no, the Braves don't have the highest.
Hell, they'd rather have Randall Simon over Andruw. Indeed how far Andruw's stock has fallen.
For our PR team I'm disappointed that David De Jesus (who has Puerto Rican ancestry) was not included, which means a left field motley crew of Lou Montanez, Luis Matos, Jesus Feliciano and, yes, Bernie Williams alongside Carlos Beltran and Alex Rios. Other than that, no big surprises. Mike Aviles should be an intriguing addition to our infield.
I still remember when they called up the first player younger than me - Alex Rodriguez.
Well, this is awkward for all of us.
Japan
Korea
Cuba
Mexico
Pool 2 Favored:
U.S.
Venezuela
PR
DR
Final Round: Who knows?
Japan
Korea
Venezuela
DR
I think Japan repeats.
i thought zambrano had already said he wasnt going to play in this?
---Ok, I'm excited. I just don't happen to like exclamation points.
---Well, you know Jake, you should learn to use them. Like the way I'm talking right now, I would put an exclamation points at the end of all these sentences! On this one! And on that one!
I'm just starting to see players who I remember as rookies, who had a few all-star-quality years, became veterans, and are now retired. Matt Morris might have been the first guy about whom I thought "I've witnessed that guy's entire career, and he was a pretty significant player." Or maybe Preston Wilson.
This is happening with Michael Barrett, Richie Sexson and Doug Mientkiewicz as well.
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