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Independence Day Weekend OMNICHATTER, for July 1-4, 2022

Scoreboards for the Major Leagues and all minor leagues,
courtesy of Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee).

Hombre Brotani Posted: July 01, 2022 at 05:42 PM | 94 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 01, 2022 at 06:06 PM (#6085268)
HAPPY BOBBY BONILLA DAY! Only 13 more years of $1,193,248.20 payments to go. I wonder how long they haggled about the 20 cents.
   2. Brian C Posted: July 01, 2022 at 06:29 PM (#6085273)
Red Sox pulled a real Cubs today: took an early 4-0 lead and then not able to generate much offense after, and eventually letting the winning run score on a WP.

Appreciate it, fellas. Nice being on the other side of one of those.
   3. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2022 at 06:34 PM (#6085275)
Red Sox pulled a real Cubs today: took an early 4-0 lead and then not able to generate much offense after, and eventually letting the winning run score on a WP.


This always frustrates me as a fan, when a team takes an early lead and then just seems to go through the motions afterwards for the rest of the game and eventually allowing the other team to recover. Baseball is different than other sports, but you see it in all the team sports, being content with the lead should never be something, and part of the issue most people have with some of the unwritten rules (no stealing with a big lead, sacrificing etc) Just keep going out there and trying to win. I'm pretty sure we have seen 7 run comebacks this year, I know we have seen 5 run comebacks.
   4. Howie Menckel Posted: July 01, 2022 at 06:47 PM (#6085278)
just noticing - is the BBTF annual Central Park softball game dead? we a "rainout" last year, party of 4 and no it wasn't raining.

I'm imagining it having been replaced by a fistfight meetup among the Discord channel crowd.

:)
   5. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2022 at 06:59 PM (#6085283)
Between Goldy and Arenado, they have a cycle as of the third inning.
   6. The Duke Posted: July 01, 2022 at 07:52 PM (#6085300)
3. I wish you had kept your thoughts to yourself there
   7. The Duke Posted: July 01, 2022 at 07:56 PM (#6085302)
Arenado with a double, triple and HR through 6.
   8. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2022 at 08:17 PM (#6085307)
4-3 Phils... apparently not good Mikolas today.
   9. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 01, 2022 at 08:38 PM (#6085311)
Darick Hall, desperation call up by the Phillies, has been slotted in as the cleanup hitter. He’s a 27 year old non prospect, although he had 20 HRs in AAA this year.

He’s at .250/.250/1.000 in his first 2+ games. I’d settle for that slash line for the rest of the year.
   10. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 01, 2022 at 08:39 PM (#6085312)
Hall was a P/1B/DH in college and once struck out future teammate Alec Bohm.
   11. cardsfanboy Posted: July 01, 2022 at 09:07 PM (#6085315)
Official ruling pending on reached on error or a single for Arenado... Not watching the game except on gameday.
   12. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 01, 2022 at 09:10 PM (#6085316)
Gift cycle. Hard hit grounder to Matt Vierling , an OF playing third, ball popped in the air, clean grab, throw sails 10 feet above Hoskins head. The throw would have beaten Arenado.
   13. Howie Menckel Posted: July 01, 2022 at 09:30 PM (#6085319)
I watched for that on the replay, and I don't think the throw beats Arenado.
that said, the ball did pop up into the air. but I would have scored that a single and error, cycle or no cycle.

maybe just settling in after a nice day and I'm in a good mood, but am enjoying the last couple of innings with Kruk in the booth and the Phlllie Fanatic's antics with the little kids.
   14. Howie Menckel Posted: July 01, 2022 at 10:37 PM (#6085323)
(one of?) tonight's position player alert is Josh Van Meter of PIT - who already has pitched and caught this season - taking the 9th with the Buccos down 17-2.

leadoff HR for Caratini
but only one other run so 19-2
   15. Walt Davis Posted: July 01, 2022 at 11:57 PM (#6085325)
Not a good look when 19 runs is the 2nd most you've given up this season. Some notable Pirate losses

21-0 Cubs
19-2 Brewers
18-4 StL
11-1 Dodgers
9-1 StL
9-0 StL
9-0 Cubs
7-0 Cubs

That'll do wonders for your pythag. They have a 12-1 win ... they're only 5-3 in games in which they gave up 2 runs.

I ain't makin' fun, they're tied with the Cubs.
   16. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: July 02, 2022 at 09:34 AM (#6085332)
Cam Vieaux threw 56 pitches in the 8th inning. The Pirates never had anyone else warming up in the bullpen.
   17. Howie Menckel Posted: July 02, 2022 at 11:17 AM (#6085342)
Baseball by BSmile
@BSmile
·
3h
Pitching box score July 2, 1963: Juan Marichal, #SFGiants (227 pitches) vs. Warren Spahn, #Braves (201 pitches). There's no way we'll ever see a major league game like this again! #MLB #Baseball #History

..................

[Marichal went all 16 innings, 0 R, 8 H, 4 BB, 10 K at age 25.
Spahn lost it with 1 out in the 16th, 1 R, 9 H, 1 BB, 2 K at age 42.]
   18. Snowboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 01:10 PM (#6085354)
Kevin Gausman (TOR) hit by come-backer at end of 2nd inning. Goes down hard and doesn't return.
Being reported x-rays negative for broken bone.
   19. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 02, 2022 at 02:00 PM (#6085357)
Matt Carpenter nailed a 2-run HR (#7) to RF (380 feet), and put the Yankees up 6-2.
   20. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 02, 2022 at 02:15 PM (#6085360)
And Torres knocks in two more to make it 8-2.

Seeing the lineup with Andujar instead of Gallo gave me a good feeling about this game even before it began.
   21. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 02, 2022 at 02:20 PM (#6085361)
Gleyber Torres 2-run single makes it 8-2, now in 6th.

This is a make-up split doubleheader due to last night’s rainout. Does MLB allows the 27th man for a DH to exceed the pitcher limit, or does it have to be a position player (assuming the team is already at the 13-pitcher limit).
   22. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 03:09 PM (#6085368)
This is a make-up split doubleheader due to last night’s rainout. Does MLB allows the 27th man for a DH to exceed the pitcher limit, or does it have to be a position player (assuming the team is already at the 13-pitcher limit).
According to the box score, the Guardians have 14 pitchers on their roster today.
   23. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 03:28 PM (#6085369)
Carpenter with another two homerun game, and the Yanks have a 13-4 lead. That nine hr would put him tied for 3rd on the Cardinals, difference is he did it in less than 50 pa. (well 51)
   24. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 02, 2022 at 03:31 PM (#6085370)
Yankees up 11-4 after 8. Aroldis Chapman came on in the 7th, returning from the IL, but left without retiring a batter after walking 3. Maybe just rust, but somewhat concerning. Luckily, the remainder of the bullpen has been pretty good.

As I type, Matt Carpenter drills a HR (#8) to RF (411 feet) his 2nd of the game, followed by Trevino (also #8) to LF (394 feet). 13-4.
   25. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 04:15 PM (#6085374)
It's looking like the Goldy and Nolan show today, 2-0 in the first for the Cardinals as Goldy singles, Arenado homers.
   26. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 04:16 PM (#6085375)
HAPPY BOBBY BONILLA DAY! Only 13 more years of $1,193,248.20 payments to go. I wonder how long they haggled about the 20 cents.


I missed this earlier, on facebook they listed a graph of number of views Bobby Bonilla gets per day, and surprisingly there is a huge spike on July 1st.
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 04:17 PM (#6085376)
And to accentuate that I said Nolan, Nolan Gorman also goes deep in the first inning.
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 04:20 PM (#6085377)
Okay, now this is getting ridiculous, Yepez with a hr to make it 4-0, with two outs the Cardinals have singled, hr, hr, hr edit hr.... 5-0
   29. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 04:21 PM (#6085378)
Mike Trout is probably sleeping somewhere and has figured out that Kyle Gibson is tipping his pitches.
   30. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 04:36 PM (#6085379)
11th time in baseball history that there have been four consecutive homeruns hit.
   31. The Duke Posted: July 02, 2022 at 04:47 PM (#6085381)
Anyone ever done 5 back to back ?
   32. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 04:55 PM (#6085382)
Cardinals just don't want to turn a game into a blowout, 5-2 with Phillies threatening more scoring.
   33. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 04:56 PM (#6085383)
Anyone ever done 5 back to back ?
They didn't say, but I imagine that since they didn't say, the answer is probably no.

edit: They did mention it happened against the Cardinals in 2020, a pitcher named Roel Ramirez..
   34. salvomania Posted: July 02, 2022 at 05:14 PM (#6085385)
edit: They did mention it happened against the Cardinals in 2020, a pitcher named Roel Ramirez..

That was just 4, not 5
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 05:30 PM (#6085388)
5-5.... seriously?
   36. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 05:34 PM (#6085389)
That was just 4, not 5


Sorry didn't clarify that comment, was just adding that it was one of the 11 times this had happened. (and might have been the last time)
   37. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 06:14 PM (#6085395)
Plays like that don't really get the credit that they deserve, bad throw by Hicks, Goldy manages to catch the ball, and step on the bag for outs.
   38. Howie Menckel Posted: July 02, 2022 at 06:46 PM (#6085396)
Jeff McNeil entered today at 23 for 60 (.383) with 28 RBI with runners in scoring position.

is that a lot?
   39. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 02, 2022 at 07:01 PM (#6085398)
Anthony Rizzo ties game 2 with his 22nd HR to CF (409 feet), followed by Giancarlo Stanton’s #20 to CF (432 feet). 2-1 Yankees in 4th.
   40. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 07:17 PM (#6085401)
Jeff McNeil entered today at 23 for 60 (.383) with 28 RBI with runners in scoring position.

is that a lot?


Don't have Pi any more so it's not as easy to check it out as it has been in the past. (I did just glance at Goldy who has 71 pa with risp, .411 avg with 40 rbi, but that is the mvp of the NL as of right now)
   41. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 07:20 PM (#6085403)
In the thread about uniforms, I dismissed the Phillies, but I do like this alternate home uniform they are wearing, especially with the batting helmet.
   42. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 07:31 PM (#6085404)
Phillies are challenging call on field, that Donovan got hit by the pitch. While waiting for the replay, Donovan, who clearly wasn't hit by a pitch, decided to walk back to the batters box to await the official word.
   43. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 07:52 PM (#6085406)
Arenado with his second hr of the day to give the Cardinals a lead in the top of the 9th, now just need to hold on. I am assuming that he did enough today (2 for 4, 2 hr, hbp) to make him the Cardinals 3rd 4War player
   44. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 02, 2022 at 08:01 PM (#6085407)
Josh Donaldson’s RBI double makes it 3-1 Yankees in 7th.

EDIT: Error on unnecessary pick-off attempt on runner on 1st not going anywhere allows runner on 3rd to score, 4-1.

EDIT II: IKF ground ball single through 2nd baseman, 5-1.

EDIT III: Higashioka SF makes it 6-1.
   45. Howie Menckel Posted: July 02, 2022 at 08:03 PM (#6085408)
maybe every primate already knows this, but just to make sure:

MLB Network is currently airing "Little Big League," that movie where the kid becomes owner of the Minnesota Twins because his grandpa died, or something.

anyway, the kid's mom in the movie is a mom in real life - of Pete Crow-Armstrong, the former No. 1 pick of the Mets who the Cubs got last year in the dopey Javier Baez trade. he's age 20 and had a 1.000 OPS in A ball in 38 games this year before being promoted last month to High A South Bend, where he's at .804 in 15 games. he's a centerfielder and he's gonna make The Show - just like his mom once did (sort of).
   46. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 02, 2022 at 08:23 PM (#6085412)
Odubel Herrera, who had a nice game up to the 9th, brings his Odumbell alternate personality up to the plate with two outs and one on.

He obviously had his mind set to swing at the first pitch to be the hero and chases a ball a foot low. He swings and misses at the next pitch, a bouncer. He does take the next pitch, a FB a foot north of the zone. He then chased another bouncer. At least he didn’t do his half hearted bunt fake to take a strike down the middle.

For an overall cromulent player, he is frustrating to watch.
   47. base ball chick Posted: July 02, 2022 at 09:25 PM (#6085413)
29. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 04:21 PM (#6085378)
Mike Trout is probably sleeping somewhere and has figured out that Kyle Gibson is tipping his pitches


- well he wasn't real too awake for the astros game. 3 K on 9 pitches = not good.
   48. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 02, 2022 at 10:06 PM (#6085416)
Yankees doubleheader sweep of the Guardians, while the Blue Jays were swept by the Rays in their DH, and the Red Sox lost to the Cubs, gives the NYY a 14-game lead over Toronto, 14.5 over Boston, and 15.5 over Tampa Bay, who are all still leading for the AL Wildcard playoff spots. #AL East Strong
   49. Howie Menckel Posted: July 02, 2022 at 10:34 PM (#6085417)
outside of their head-to-head matchups, the Marlins are 26-39 and the Nationals are 28-41 - a virtual tie, slight edge to the latter.

but add in the Marlins being 10-1 vs the Nats now, and......
   50. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 11:28 PM (#6085419)
I hadn't realized that the Cardinals have overtaken the Mets in the NL for second best run differential.
   51. Walt Davis Posted: July 02, 2022 at 11:36 PM (#6085420)
RISP for MLB 2022 ... note that of course RBIs include any guys driven from 1B along with the batter on a HR

21,394 PA ... 6,808 RBI ... 590 HR ... 7,238 R which seems like a lot of non-RBI runs to me

anyway, that's 3.14 PA per RBI ... For McNeil's PA, that comes out to about 19 so he's ahead of league-average pace.

The number of runs scored with nobody on and the number scored with a man on first only are about the same but of course there have been 3 times as many PA with nobody on. Roughly 72% of all runs are scored on PAs with men in scoring position.

1248 times this year a runner was on first when a double was hit, they've scored 42.5% of the time. 2234 times a runner has been on second when a single was hit, they've scored 61.4% of the time.

Overall, a baserunner (not incl HR hitters) scores 31% of the time. That is a smidgen higher than 1992 and 1982 and a fair bit higher than 1972. But y'know the game was much more exciting back then. (For sure, those runners score more often on HR than they used to.)

Now there were only 24 teams in 1972 but still only 1412 times was there a runner on 1st when a double was hit (cf 1248 already this year) and they scored at a 41% rate. Runner on 2nd when a single was hit was probably a bit more common (3986 times, about once per team-game) and they scored at a higher rate of 67.7%. I assume the OF were more likely to be shallow then so that probably is substantially more tense plays.

Oops, I forgot about the brief 1972 work stoppage that lost about a week's worth of games. So that was 3986 times in 3718 team games vs 2234 in 2310. That's 1.07 times per team game (or 2.14 per game) vs 0.97 (1.94) so you'd see a single with a man on second one extra time per 5 games.

There must be an easier way to do it than I did but in 1972, 29.4% of all runs scored on a HR. So far in 2022 it's 40.5%.

Note 1872 was a terrible offensive year and pre-DH so no guarantee things don't look substantially different in, say, 1982 or 1992 but you get what you pay for.
   52. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 02, 2022 at 11:43 PM (#6085421)
Yankees doubleheader sweep of the Guardians, while the Blue Jays were swept by the Rays in their DH, and the Red Sox lost to the Cubs, gives the NYY a 14-game lead over Toronto, 14.5 over Boston, and 15.5 over Tampa Bay, who are all still leading for the AL Wildcard playoff spots. #AL East Strong

If that 14 game lead isn't a record for this date, I'd like to know what is. In 1928 they were 13 games ahead of the A's,** in 1998 they were 10 games ahead of Boston, and in 1927 they were 10.5 games up on the Senators.

** But actually fell behind the A's before sweeping them in a Labor Day doubleheader, and wound up winning the pennant by only 2.5 games.
   53. Howie Menckel Posted: July 02, 2022 at 11:51 PM (#6085422)
the 1986 Mets had a 12.5 game lead on July 3 (53-21), got to 15 G on July 23 and 16.5 G on July 28, and finally went up 20 G on Aug. 23.
the peak was 22 G on Sept. 10 (going 6-1 after that and still only being up 20 G), and the Amazins settled for a mere 21.5 G lead when the regular season ended.

and THAT's when it got interesting, lol
   54. Walt Davis Posted: July 02, 2022 at 11:52 PM (#6085423)
Some inter-divisional stuff

Interleague: AL leads 80-73 but the run differential is just 12. No idea who's played whom.

ALE vs ALC: 55-42
ALE vs ALW: 60-33
ALC vs ALW: 36-47

NLE vs NLC: 37-27
NLE vs NLW: 60-57
NLC vs NLW: 39-54

The two Centrals are embarrassing themselves, not for the first time. Having so many NLE-NLW games seems odd so the NLE will get to do some cleaning up against NLC in the 2nd half so may make a run at more WC spots. Meanshilw the NLW will have to do a lot of beating up on itself -- they've already played nearly as many games vs NLE as they have amongst themselves.

The Yanks are 26-12 in the division and 30-9 (incl NL) outside of it. They are 22-12 on the road for crying out loud. They are 24-12 against 500+ teams. Although they were "just" 6-4 in their last 10 (before today's sweep), they were 15-5 in their last 20 and 23-7 in their last 30.
   55. cardsfanboy Posted: July 02, 2022 at 11:53 PM (#6085424)
If that 14 game lead isn't a record for this date, I'd like to know what is.


Not sure about record, but Dodgers was 13 games up in 2019, Hou 14.5 in 2017, Sea 21 games up in 2001(which probably has to be the record) (if you men the Yankee record, I didn't look at that.... just every season on today's date from 2022 to 20001)
   56. Howie Menckel Posted: July 03, 2022 at 01:01 AM (#6085425)
the peak was 22 G on Sept. 10 (going 6-1 after that and still only being up 20 G)

um, still 22 G of course.

those responsible for the typo will be sacked
   57. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 03, 2022 at 07:14 AM (#6085429)
Not sure about record, but Dodgers was 13 games up in 2019, Hou 14.5 in 2017, Sea 21 games up in 2001(which probably has to be the record) (if you men the Yankee record, I didn't look at that.... just every season on today's date from 2022 to 20001)

No, I meant any team, and I should've thought about the 2001 Mariners, whose October fate provides a cautionary note for this year's Yankees. The 2017 Trash Cans (smile) provide a better role model.

One stat that makes the Yanks' lead a bit more impressive than those other two is the competitive strength of their divisional rivals. While the bottom 4 teams in this year's AL East are a combined 14 games over .500, the 2002 Mariners' divisional rivals were 25 under, and the 2017 Astros' were 15 under. None of those other 8 teams in 2001 or 2017 had winning records at that point, whereas the AL East's second through fourth place teams are not only all well over .500, but if the season ended today, all three of them would be in the playoffs.

A followup question might be: Which wild card era division had the best overall winning percentage at the end of the season? Right now the AL East's overall winning percentage is .565, which is well over the winning percentage of more than a few pennant winners, and better than at least two World Series winners** I can think of OTTOMH.

** The 1959 Dodgers and the 1987 Twins
   58. cardsfanboy Posted: July 03, 2022 at 07:27 AM (#6085430)
One stat that makes the Yanks' lead a bit more impressive than those other two is the competitive strength of their divisional rivals.


While I was looking that was also something that struck me as impressive. It's hard to argue the quality of the AL East right now. Heck if you look at Baltimore, and realize that they have played 10 fewer home games than road games, and it's possible they might be over .500 for the season if it was different (18-17 at home, 17-27 on road)
   59. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: July 03, 2022 at 03:05 PM (#6085452)
Why are the Cubs batting Morel 9th? He should be getting more PAs.
   60. Walt Davis Posted: July 03, 2022 at 03:21 PM (#6085455)
Morel struggled some in the leadoff spot (though he was there again the other day vs Hill) -- 308 OBP, K-rate over 30%. Batting him 9th is maybe a bit much but it's sort of a 2nd leadoff guy with the DH. Still, I think mainly they just want to take a bit of the pressure off. I'd probably slot him 6th or 7th, I've always like a bit of speed in that slot to help maximize the value of whatever hits you might get out of the 8/9 slots.
   61. Walt Davis Posted: July 03, 2022 at 03:30 PM (#6085457)
On record leads ... I thought it might be the 84 Tigers who started 35-5. That was good for a 8.5 lead but then they lost 3 in row and the lead was down to 5 because Toronto was playing nearly 700 ball (31-14). The Tigers then played just over 500 in June and pushed it to 10 games but it was back down to 7 on July 4 as the Jays were still on a 600 WP. They didn't crack 14 until the last week of the season.

Still, would you rather be the 31-14 Jays somehow 5 games back and only a small shot at a playoff spot or the 44-35 Jays with an excellent shot at a WC spot?
   62. Walt Davis Posted: July 03, 2022 at 03:34 PM (#6085458)
And speaking of divisions, the 1984 O's won 85 games and finished 5th in the ALE; the Royals won the ALC with 84 wins. The ALE was 320-267 vs the ALW.
   63. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 03, 2022 at 04:10 PM (#6085460)
On record leads ... I thought it might be the 84 Tigers who started 35-5. That was good for a 8.5 lead but then they lost 3 in row and the lead was down to 5 because Toronto was playing nearly 700 ball (31-14).

The first team I ever followed wire to wire was the '53 Yankees. On June 14th they completed an 18 game winning streak that included a 14 game sweep of their 4 city "western swing". At that point they were 41-11 and 10.5 games ahead of the second place Indians.

They returned to New York to meet the St. Louis Browns, a team that had just lost 14 straight games, all at home. The Yankees' pitcher that night was Whitey Ford, who at that point in his career was 16-0 as a starter.

So naturally the Browns won.

5 days later the Yankees went into a 9 game losing streak, which had Stengel speaking tripletalk instead of his usual doubletalk. I don't think any team has ever combined winning and losing streaks that long in a single season.
   64. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: July 03, 2022 at 04:56 PM (#6085461)
After I posted, Walt, I looked him up and he is on a pace for 700 PAs this year...so he's getting enough ABs.
   65. Walt Davis Posted: July 03, 2022 at 05:33 PM (#6085463)
The Cubs have asked a lot of Morel, I was a bit worried he was gonna get hit with that "Bobby Hill is our savior" tag. Anyway, he's started 41 of 43 games since coming up; he's started at 4 positions, mostly CF (a position he'd played only 50 times in the minors) and 2B (12 times). His defensive stats, both DRS and statcast, reflect that. I think it is the right call to reduce the pressure a bit. One way would be to move him back to 3B but Wisdom's got that locked down (although moving Wisdom to 1B would work) so moving him down in the order might be wise. FTR, I also wouldn't mind seeing him bat 2nd most days with Contreras moving down although I love Contreras in the #2 spot.

Anyway, Morel's future is probably as a super-sub with pop or a fringe starter. Not good hitting comps but a career like Jurickson Profar (with a better start) springs to mind. Or Villar.

By the way ... what's up with Johathan Schoop? Statcast has him wayyyy out in front on outs above average. Has he always been a good defender?
   66. Hombre Brotani Posted: July 03, 2022 at 05:37 PM (#6085464)
The Astros strike out 20 Angels, win with a walk-off homer to sweep the series.

Things just keep getting worse for the Angels, game after game, year after year. It's unfathomably bad right now.
   67. cardsfanboy Posted: July 03, 2022 at 05:50 PM (#6085466)
So, just because... I've probably complained sometime about how often the Sunday game of the week is a bit Red Sox, Yankee and (yes) Cardinals heavy.... supposedly this will be Adam Wainwrights 17th start on the game of the week, most of any pitcher ever. (honestly I can't even think of who else would be a contender once I considered this a question)
   68. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 03, 2022 at 05:51 PM (#6085467)
D-Backs reliever Ian Kennedy just took himself out of the game with what looks like a pulled calf muscle, midway through pitching to his second batter. What's the rule here? Does he have to go on the IL?
   69. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 03, 2022 at 05:59 PM (#6085468)
After Kennedy departs, C.J. Cron's second three-run homer of the game puts the Rockies up 6-5 in the bottom of the eighth.
   70. Howie Menckel Posted: July 03, 2022 at 06:48 PM (#6085469)
twas a glorious day to be at Citi Field - what they used to call a "love-in"

:)
   71. Walt Davis Posted: July 03, 2022 at 08:06 PM (#6085472)
D-Backs reliever Ian Kennedy just took himself out of the game with what looks like a pulled calf muscle, midway through pitching to his second batter. What's the rule here? Does he have to go on the IL?

No. It's an injury. In theory the umpire cannot believe the injury claim but it doesn't matter (nor should it) whether the player calls out the coach cuz he's hurt or the coach notices something went wrong. A player (esp a pitcher) calling the coaches out when he's hurt happens all the time. That's basically always gonna be the case for a blister or nail problem. I'm not sure what sort of gamesmanship you think could be going on here -- Ian Kennedy with over 1800 innings under his belt suddenly decides he can't get LHB out anymore so fakes an injury before his 3 batters are completed?
   72. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 03, 2022 at 08:14 PM (#6085473)
It was clear there wasn't any gamesmanship going on. He was clutching his leg for a few seconds before the coaches came out to pull him. I just didn't know if there was any provision in the rule for what happens when a pitcher gets injured before he faces his three hitters.
   73. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 03, 2022 at 08:47 PM (#6085475)
I don't think any team has ever combined winning and losing streaks that long in a single season.


The 1916 Giants are the gold standard of streaks: Both a 26 and a 17 game winning streak, with an 8 game losing streak and a different 11 out of 12 losses.

With those winning streaks, they still only finished 4th, albeit with an 86-66 record.

EDIT: They ended up 19.5 games ahead of the 5th place team!
   74. SoSH U at work Posted: July 04, 2022 at 12:03 AM (#6085482)
Hosmer just bailed out his teammate’s horrific base running.
   75. SoSH U at work Posted: July 04, 2022 at 12:07 AM (#6085484)
I guess it didn’t “just” happen, but it was still atrocious.
   76. I don't want to talk about Rocco Posted: July 04, 2022 at 08:16 AM (#6085488)
65: Schoop was great in the field with the Orioles. Since he started moving from team to team his glove didn’t make the trips Now this season the D grades out as great but his bat is missing

He seems like a sensitive guy. Apparently when he was traded to the Brewers even though he came to a good team he was really down about Orioles moving him. That and he sure acted that he did not like playing the shift defense. He botched several balls in short right field while with the Crew. Schoop said all the right things but he was so bad all around Counsell played him part time the last 5 weeks of 2018. And the plan was to hand him the keys to second.

Hope his bat shows up and he keeps the defense.
   77. sanny manguillen Posted: July 04, 2022 at 08:37 AM (#6085489)
Happy birthday to those great Americans, Steinbrenner and Angelos.
   78. oscar madisox Posted: July 04, 2022 at 12:47 PM (#6085501)
As of this morning the Yanks and Astros both lead their divisions by 13.5 games. Given the quality—or lack of qualify—of the rest of the teams in their divisions its hard to imagine the Astros not winning the West by a bigger margin than the Yanks win the East.
   79. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 04, 2022 at 01:03 PM (#6085502)
The Yankees are off today, as was the case for Memorial Day, too. Seems odd that MLB can’t work out the schedule so every team plays on the holidays, with off days on the non-holiday Mondays & Thursdays, when crowds are smaller. However, that ship seems to have sailed, since MLB has been doing it this way for a few years now.

With today’s off-day, the Yankees finished a stretch of 20 games in 20 days. At the start of that run, one of the sage commenters here noted:
25. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 14, 2022 at 05:17 PM (#6081746)

Tonight the Yankees start a stretch of 20 games without an off day, with the Rays for 3, 3 @ Toronto, and then 3 @ Rays, before 4 back home with the Astros. Opposition gets a bit easier after that, but those games may go a long way towards establishing whether anyone will challenge the Yanks in the AL East or for the best overall record in the AL.
The Yankees went 14-6 over the 20 games, pretty good considering the level of the competition, even if a bit less than their overall winning percentage. 5-1 against the Rays & 2-1 @ Toronto helps a bit within the Division, too. Lots of baseball left, but the 1st half of the season is going rather well for the Bronx Bombers, although they still have one challenge remaining with 7 games in 11 days against the Red Sox to close it out.
   80. cardsfanboy Posted: July 04, 2022 at 01:30 PM (#6085504)
The Yankees are off today, as was the case for Memorial Day, too. Seems odd that MLB can’t work out the schedule so every team plays on the holidays, with off days on the non-holiday Mondays & Thursdays, when crowds are smaller. However, that ship seems to have sailed, since MLB has been doing it this way for a few years now.


I remember complaining about that a few years ago (and some Canadian fans complained about the Blue Jays not playing on a Canada holiday) and you would think that they would circle the holidays when they are making the schedule and make those mandatory days. (and that Toronto has a home game during the Canadian versions) It seems counter intuitive to not have a game when you have a tv audience that is home with a group of people, and of course for attendance purposes also.
   81. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 04, 2022 at 01:32 PM (#6085505)
Even those of us who hate the Yankees think it's a little sad that they aren't playing on the 4th of July.
   82. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: July 04, 2022 at 03:02 PM (#6085510)
Going way back into the 20th century, long before doubleheaders every Sunday became commonplace for every team, the preseason schedule always set aside "Decoration" (Memorial) Day, the 4th of July and Labor Day for doubleheaders. By the time the season was finished, teams might have played 20 or 25 twin bills, but that was because of the then-ubiquitous rainouts or "wet grounds" postponements, not because they'd been scheduled in the offseason.
   83. Walt Davis Posted: July 04, 2022 at 04:36 PM (#6085518)
And I'm still assuming this is all buried in the CBA somewhere. Players (and coaches and umpires) want holiday time with families too. You "can't" do it for everybody but you can do it for a few every time. I believe there are also more off-days in the middle of homestands. Some of these 2-game interleague series create scheduling problems but otherwise it's pretty easy to make sure everybody plays Fri-Sun and major holidays. So the fact that it's not happening -- you think MLB is passing on easy ticket sales because they bought cheap scheduling software?
   84. Walt Davis Posted: July 04, 2022 at 05:30 PM (#6085519)
Case in point ... The Yanks next series is 2 games at Pitt. The Yanks just finished a series at Cle which is about as close to Pitt as you can get. The Pirates just finished a series yesterday at home against Mil. The next series for both teams start Thurs. It took less than a minute to fix this problem by having the NYY @ Pitt series be Mon-Tues and giving both teams Wed off. No other teams would be affected at all. Do you really think Pitt's owners wouldn't love a July 4 home game against the Yanks?

I don't see how else that happens other than MLB-MLBPA agreeing to forego some holiday revenue. And I can't see why the owners would ask for that so I assume the union did, giving some concession elsewhere. So I hope the Pirate players (and all other related personnel) are enjoying July 4 with their families and friends in Pitt. The Yanks were close enough they could have flown home so might be enjoying July 4 with their families and friends too. Othrwise they at least had a choice between Cle's and Pitt's fireworks.
   85. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: July 04, 2022 at 06:05 PM (#6085523)
Mookie Betts is starting at 2B tonight. Which apparently he has done 20 times before in his MLB career. I had no idea.
   86. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: July 04, 2022 at 06:48 PM (#6085524)
WOW! Seiya Suzuki with a one out ITPHR to break a 1-1 tie in the ninth. Close play at the plate but the throw a hair up the line.
   87. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: July 04, 2022 at 06:50 PM (#6085525)
Mookie Betts is starting at 2B tonight. Which apparently he has done 20 times before in his MLB career. I had no idea.


He was a 2B in the minors but the Sox had Pedroia so they moved him to the OF. He played a bit there his rookie year and made a couple of token appearances there in other games but not much. There was a fair amount of discussion prior to the 2018 WS that the Sox might use him there and go with JD-Bradley-Benintendi in the outfield but it didn’t come to pass.

Let me tell you what a great scout I’d make. I saw him playing shortstop when he was in short season A ball. Dude bounced every throw he made to first base and I left that game convinced he was never going to be anything. I think he whiffed a couple of times too.
   88. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 04, 2022 at 06:57 PM (#6085526)
WOW! Seiya Suzuki with a one out ITPHR to break a 1-1 tie in the ninth. Close play at the plate but the throw a hair up the line.
Took a hard bounce off the angled wall just to the left of straightway CF, and rolled along the warning track with the centerfielder in futile pursuit well into right-center. Right-fielder never appeared in the picture, which seems like a bit of dereliction of duty in his home park. He should know that the angled wall makes that carom possible.
   89. Howie Menckel Posted: July 04, 2022 at 07:12 PM (#6085527)
Mad Max will be back on the bump for the Mets in Cincinnati Tuesday night.

deGrom's first pitch in his first rehab start on Sunday was 100.3 mph and he whiffed 5 of 6 A ball hitters in a short stint.

Bassitt may or may not be back on Thursday from his COVID stint. Megill may be back from his injury in mid-August. Trevor May could be back in the bullpen in a couple of weeks.

TWalker has been great, Peterson a pleasant surrpise, and Carrasco - while erratic at times - has 9 wins. even Trevor Williams has been serviceable in 7 starts.

storm may be ending in Queens, with choppier seas ahead elsewhere in the NL East.
   90. NaOH Posted: July 04, 2022 at 07:22 PM (#6085528)
The Yanks next series is 2 games at Pitt. The Yanks just finished a series at Cle which is about as close to Pitt as you can get. The Pirates just finished a series yesterday at home against Mil. The next series for both teams start Thurs. It took less than a minute to fix this problem by having the NYY @ Pitt series be Mon-Tues and giving both teams Wed off. No other teams would be affected at all. Do you really think Pitt's owners wouldn't love a July 4 home game against the Yanks?

I don't see how else that happens other than MLB-MLBPA agreeing to forego some holiday revenue. And I can't see why the owners would ask for that so I assume the union did, giving some concession elsewhere.


The last CBA—so I assume the current one, too—prohibited teams from playing more than 20 consecutive days. NY was at that limit.
   91. SoSH U at work Posted: July 04, 2022 at 07:56 PM (#6085531)
They didn’t have to play games in the 20 days before that.
   92. Howie Menckel Posted: July 04, 2022 at 08:01 PM (#6085532)
Caratini with a unique day for MIL - dons the dreaded Golden Sombrero after 4 AB, then hits a 3-run walkoff HR in the 10th. time to trade that in for a victory cap !
   93. Howie Menckel Posted: July 04, 2022 at 08:24 PM (#6085533)
HR by Lindor keeps him in the NYC RBI race conversation around mid season:

Alonso NYM 69
Judge NYY 59
Lindor NYM 57
Stanton NYY 53
Rizzo NYY 52

so all 5 may reach triple digits come October

..............

and it seemed like this guy was "a bust" until about 5 minutes ago

J.P. Long
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Trevor Story leads the Red Sox with 53 RBI and ranks 2nd with 13 HR.

Of his 13 HR, 6 have given the Sox a lead and 2 have tied the game.

He’s on pace to become the first Red Sox 2nd baseman with 100 RBI in a season since Bobby Doerr in 1950.
   94. Walt Davis Posted: July 05, 2022 at 12:16 AM (#6085545)
Plus the Angels and Phils didn't play today, neither being anywhere near 20 games. That requires a little more monkeying but not a lot. The Angels play two at Miami starting on Tues, coming in from Hou. Philly starts a 3-game at home against the Nats after three at home. The Nats & Marlins finished off a 4-game set in DC today. So have the Angels Marlins start today, have Philly-Nats start today, have Marlins-Nats play this game back on April 25. That one took me about 5 minutes to do by hand.

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