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Is Thursday OMNICHATTER really that important? IT IS, for July 29, 2021

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Hombre Brotani Posted: July 29, 2021 at 02:37 PM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Hombre Brotani Posted: July 29, 2021 at 02:48 PM (#6031255)
   2. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 29, 2021 at 02:53 PM (#6031256)
Joey Votto homered again for the Reds, for the sixth straight game, with a total of eight homers over that stretch. And it's only the second inning.

If there was any question about whether Votto was going to the Hall of Fame, I think he just answered it.
   3. salvomania Posted: July 29, 2021 at 02:55 PM (#6031257)
Having reached base three times today (with another possible opportunity in the 9th), Brandon Nimmo has overtaken Vladimir Guerrero for the MLB lead in on-base percentage (min 180 PA), .428 to .423.

Unless he cools off considerably down the stretch, this will be Nimmo's third .400+ OBP season in the past four years.

Although he plays center field and bats leadoff for the first-place Mets, he seems like an "under-the-radar"-type of player in that I don't recall reading or hearing much about him, ever.
   4. Rally Posted: July 29, 2021 at 03:04 PM (#6031259)
True, but I think a lot of that is he's never been able to stay in the lineup. Wasn't his fault for 2020 (unless he's really careless in an offseason job doing gain of function research on viruses), since he played 55 of 60. To this point, he's played in 44 of the Mets' 101 games, so probably another season under 100 games for him.

He's been up for parts of 6 seasons and only once has he played more than 70 games. While his OBP might be slightly ahead of Vladito, he's not qualified to be among the leaders, and even if he plays every remaining game for the Mets, he's not going to end up anywhere close to qualified.
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 29, 2021 at 03:17 PM (#6031262)
The Nationals traded Brad Hand earlier today, with more moves expected to follow. Max Scherzer won the 1st game of today’s doubleheader with a tidy 6-inning, 3-hit, 1-run performance. A fine audition for teams interested in trading for him, but the Nationals are off to a 4-0 1st-inning lead in the 2nd game, while the Mets lost today. Probably too late for 2nd thoughts, eh?
   6. salvomania Posted: July 29, 2021 at 03:28 PM (#6031266)
Nimmo had a breakthrough 2018 season, at age 25, with an OPS+ of 148 in 535 PA (.263/.404/.483) while starting in all three outfield positions.

Then in the third week of the season in 2019, he crashed into an outfield wall and missed a little time but continued to play more of less regularly for the next month, with his OPS rapidly sliding from .852 to .667 before he was finally DLed on May 20 with lingering effects from the collision. He didn't return until September 1, and he tore it up to the tune of .261/.430/.565 over the final four weeks. (Seems like maybe he should have been DLed in April, after the collision.)

He had a fine season last year (.280/.404/.484), almost exactly matching his OBP/SLG from 2018, and then suffered a ligament tear in his finger in early May of this year (.318/.430.430 at the time), causing him to miss another two months.

I feel like he'd be recognized as one of the best leadoff hitters in baseball if he could only stay healthy.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: July 29, 2021 at 03:38 PM (#6031268)
fwiw, Nimmo is from Wyoming and his high school didn't even have a baseball team. former first-round pick.

he has a goofy, toothy grin at all times and sprints to first base after a walk.

sounds lame, but he just exudes joy at the miracle that he gets to make a living playing baseball.

as for OBP, he makes it look simple: if you don't throw him three strikes before you throw four balls, he's sprinting to first base. and there are plenty of pitchers who don't seem to pass that "test" with any batter - yet they whiff a lot of them on bad swings.
   8. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 29, 2021 at 04:32 PM (#6031275)
Even as a Phils fan, I like Nimmo’s game immensely.
   9. Howie Menckel Posted: July 29, 2021 at 05:31 PM (#6031300)
I see Nimmo after today's loss has 23 hits and 19 walks in 23 games since his return. that'll play anywhere...
   10. Walt Davis Posted: July 29, 2021 at 06:04 PM (#6031316)
Nimmo has been a 4-5 WAR player per 650 PA. He's not much of a CF but is good in the corners and it's not his fault the Mets simply refuse to acquire a CF. He's FA-eligible after next year but given his injury issues, the Mets shouldn't have much trouble extending him.

As to Votto ... I don't see how a HR streak adds to his HoF-ness. It's added over 100 points to his OPS, turning an average season into a good one which helps a bit but it would be the same if he'd spread those HRs out. The important thing is that by season's end, he should easily pass 8000 PAs. He's Larry Walker at 1B. The other promising bit about this season is that it increases the hope that he'll continue to be at least useful, probably average and maybe even good in the two years remaining on his contract (closing in on 9000+ PA).

He'll obviously sail into the HoM. He clearly should be in the HoF at this point and unless a bunch of "old-school" voters decide to make a last stand on the need for milestones (Votto still doesn't have even 2000 hits, just over 300 HR), he'll actually get in. Near as I can tell, the "old-school" voters like Votto anyway.

However ... Votto vs Berkman

JV 7898 PA, 303/418/518, 148 OPS+, 462 Rbat, 62 WAR, 1980 H, 314 HR, 1022 RBI (those are un-impressive counting stats)
LB 7814 PA, 293/406/537, 144 OPS+, 421 Rbat, 52 WAR, 1905 H, 366 HR, 1234 RBI

The WAR difference is about 4 wins of Rbat and 6 wins of defense (good 1B vs average OF/1B/DH). Votto has an MVP and some other good MVP finishes. Both have 6 AS games. Votto of course now gets to add a couple years but, other than hits, he's not likely to surpass Berkman's counting stats by much if at all. FWIW, both players debuted at 23

That's mighty thin and Berkman got 1.2% of the vote. That's not a knock on Votto, more how underrated Berkman was. Votto is seen more as a HoFer than Berkman ever was so he'll get way, way, way more than 1.2% regardless. Still, if you had to pick which guy to have on your team for 10 years, not much to separate them.

Even that Rbat difference is thinner than it looks. The OBP gap works out to about 100 more times on base partially balanced by Berkman's 100 edge in TB. You'd rather have the extra times on base but spread that over 13 years of playing time and there's not much there to hang your hat on (well, about 4 wins apparently).
   11. AndrewJ Posted: July 29, 2021 at 06:27 PM (#6031323)
the Nationals are off to a 4-0 1st-inning lead in the 2nd game, while the Mets lost today. Probably too late for 2nd thoughts, eh?

After Brad Miller's walkoff grand slam in extras, I suspect third and even fourth thoughts may be in order.
   12. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 29, 2021 at 06:49 PM (#6031329)
Gerrit Cole must have tried to go without the sticky stuff today. Rays 14, Yankees 0.
   13. Howie Menckel Posted: July 29, 2021 at 06:56 PM (#6031331)
Yankees trail last wild-card A's by 3 games and Mariners by 2 games. they are closer to the No. 8 Blue Jays (who picked up Brad Hand today) than either.

so come on down, Anthony Rizzo !

"In exchange, Chicago will be receiving two of the Yankees' top prospects, according to the YES Network's Jack Curry: Right-hander Alexander Vizcaino (No. 9 on MLB Pipeline's Top 30 Yankees prospects list) and outfielder Kevin Alcantara (No. 12)."

   14. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: July 29, 2021 at 07:14 PM (#6031337)
Both Harper and Hoskins left game 2 early with problems. It’s a long shot, but if both are out for the year, the Phils should reverse gears and sell, sell, sell.
   15. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 29, 2021 at 07:20 PM (#6031340)
Terry Francona is stepping down as 'dians manager for the remainder of the year, for health reasons.

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