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Friday, August 16, 2019

Jameson Taillon undergoes second Tommy John surgery

A couple of weeks ago we learned that Pirates starter Jameson Taillon had to undergo season-ending surgery to repair his right flexor tendon. At the time it was reported that he did not need Tommy John surgery.

Unfortunately, that wasn’t the case. During Taillon’s flexor tendon surgery on Tuesday the surgeon determined that he also needed Tommy John surgery on his right elbow and performed the procedure. It was the second time Taillon has had TJ surgery. He also missed time in 2017 due to testicular cancer. The guy has just been unable to catch a break.

Sincere question: How often can one have Tommy John surgery? That it’s been performed multiple times on several pitchers is apparent- but how often can an elbow go through that surgery before it can take no more?

 

QLE Posted: August 16, 2019 at 04:23 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: jameson taillon, tommy john surgery

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   1. Zonk. Person. Man. Camera. TV. Posted: August 16, 2019 at 09:57 AM (#5871916)
Now that they're doing UCL replacements with tendons from cadavers - not just a tendon from elsewhere in the patient, I presume there's no limit.... I imagine at some point - there's a limit to how effectively additional grafts can join the humerus and ulna though.
   2. bigglou115 is not an Illuminati agent Posted: August 16, 2019 at 11:29 AM (#5871947)
The limit has never been running out of bits to use, the odds of a comeback from a second TJ have consistently been worse than a first and I'm only aware of one person who's come back from 3 to any level of success.
   3. Zonk. Person. Man. Camera. TV. Posted: August 16, 2019 at 11:46 AM (#5871954)
The limit has never been running out of bits to use, the odds of a comeback from a second TJ have consistently been worse than a first and I'm only aware of one person who's come back from 3 to any level of success.


Chris Carpenter? Or was he only a two-timer?
   4. Zonk. Person. Man. Camera. TV. Posted: August 16, 2019 at 11:58 AM (#5871956)
Huh, Carpenter was only a one-timer, at least per this list.... I thought twice.

I presume Venters is the three-timer?

Soria and Eovaldi are successful two-timers...
   5. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 16, 2019 at 12:03 PM (#5871957)
I think Jonny Venters was the 3-timer.
   6. Zonk. Person. Man. Camera. TV. Posted: August 16, 2019 at 12:17 PM (#5871963)
Josh Johnson and Jason Isringhausen were also three-timers -- but neither really made it back from the 3rd.

The problem, of course, is the 12-18 month recovery.... so - even just two surgeries, figure it's actually costing you ~3 years of career.... and the other elements of pitching - shoulder, etc - are aging two.

Figure you have three? Well.... that's probably about 5 years of rehab, maybe you get a couple years of use in between, you're talking about half a nominal career even if you get the first at a very young age.
   7. Simpson Posted: August 16, 2019 at 12:18 PM (#5871964)
chris capuano came back from a second as well.
   8. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: August 16, 2019 at 12:23 PM (#5871965)
Poor Chris Carpenter -- three elbow surgeries (2 bone spurs plus the TJ), two shoulder surgeries (labrum and scar tissue around the labrum), and that weird thoraic outlet syndrome surgery on his ribcage. He averaged 58.3 games per surgery for his career. That has to be close to a record (with a 300 game minimum).
   9. The Run Fairy Posted: August 16, 2019 at 12:32 PM (#5871968)
Josh Johnson and Jason Isringhausen were also three-timers -- but neither really made it back from the 3rd.


Johnson didn't even make it back from his second. Signed with the Padres, had TJ. Tried to rehab the next year, had TJ. His number of surgeries with Padres exceeded his number of batters faced (1, in A ball).

Jason Frasor had it twice before he reached the majors, then was consistently healthy afterwards.

Xavier Nady had TJ twice, which has to be rare for a position player.

   10. Bote Man Posted: August 16, 2019 at 01:08 PM (#5871972)
Now that they're doing UCL replacements with tendons from cadavers

So you're saying...even after surgery he will have a dead arm??

Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm trying to delete it.
   11. Sunday silence: Play Guess How long season lasts Posted: August 16, 2019 at 02:47 PM (#5872002)
perhaps more interesting, the story under the linked one indicates MIL has signed Jung Ho Kang..OK I guess.
   12. Howie Menckel Posted: August 16, 2019 at 04:19 PM (#5872019)
Ryan Madson?
   13. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: August 17, 2019 at 09:43 AM (#5872113)
Another sincere question: If Tommy John had never lived, or never had the surgery, what would they call it?

Now that they're doing UCL replacements with tendons from cadavers

I read this as "tendons from Cavaliers", and thought, "Man, first they lose LeBron, now they're harvesting the remaining players for organs!"
   14. Rennie's Tenet Posted: August 17, 2019 at 11:13 AM (#5872119)
tendons from Cavaliers",


Ralph Sampson. Miles of tendons.

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