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Jays pitcher Anthony Bass sorry for posting video endorsing anti-LGBTQ boycotts
Toronto Blue Jays pitcher Anthony Bass shared a post on his social media which promoted anti-LGBTQ campaigns, which targeted boycotting Target and Bud Light because of those companies associated with the promotion of Pride campaigns.
Bass took to Instagram stories and shared a video that called on Christians to stop patronizing companies in the United States.
Earlier this month, Target announced it would be removing some of its LGBTQ2S+ merchandise nationwide and moving its Pride merchandise to the back of some southern U.S. stores after receiving backlash from some customers.
The original video posted took directed aim at those companies, saying “Here’s the reason biblically why I believe Christians have got to be boycotting Target, Bud Light, and any other corporation that’s pushing the things they’re pushing. This is evil, this is demonic, we won’t stand for it, we’re not going to go to the stores anymore and we’re not going to give you our money.”
Bass later apologized Tuesday for the post before the Blue Jays contest against Milwaukee Brewers. Bass also did not take questions from the media.
“I’ll make this quick,” Bass said. “I recognize yesterday that I made a post that was hurtful to the Pride community, which includes friends of mine and close family members of mine, and I am truly sorry for that. I just spoke with my teammates and shared with them my actions yesterday. I apologized (to) them and, as of right now, I am using the Blue Jays’ resources to better educate myself to make better decisions moving forward. The ballpark is for everybody. We include all fans at the ballpark and we want to welcome everybody.”
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This is the same guy who ####### that flight attendants wouldn't clean up his family's mess.
What a douche canoe.
Lue Jays?
When Dave Kingman was playing for Oakland, a sportswriter (Mike Downey, I think?) wrote: "The other S on Dave Kingman's cap is missing."
how to determine if your religious liberty is being threatened:
Insane troll gonna insanely troll.
Well I suppose if the continuation of equal rights for women, allowing a women the right to choose, allowing terminally ill people to choose the time of their passing, new commitments to eliminate greenhouse gasses with an aggressive climate policy, reduce the amount of freely available guns, continuation of support for proper medical care for everyone and maintaining a social safety net for those that might need it at some stage in their lives, are not for you, then sure, he's not your guy.
He had won the victory over himself.
He loved Big Brother.
Mind you, having said all of that, Bass's apology was actually pretty good. Still doesn't change the fact that he follows and parrots the same hateful nonsense that has taken over this country in the past 6 years.
(Posts a hitless 9th inning, trailing 4-2)
Added: June is "Pride" month in Canada, and the Jays home games Jun 9-10 have been designated for ballpark celebrations and giveaways.
The fundamental insanity of American free speech doctrine is that it justifies, on political grounds, speech that seeks to define particular groups as outside the political community (supporting, eg, state efforts to round up the trans kids, who are no doubt possessed by demons).
Quick Googling finds a U of Chicago law professor saying something that American high school graduates are all supposed to nod and agree with: "Free speech means little if it only means protection for speech that we don’t think is objectionable or harmful."
What do you mean, 'we'?
to take the discussion in a more rhetorical direction, the ACLU gets this kind of bug up their ass about once a decade, but after their successful effort to start the 2016 charlottesville race riots, i'd like to think they've come to the realization that every ounce of effort, every man hour allocated, every dollar spent to protect the free speech rights of nazis is an ounce, an hour and a dollar that they don't spend protecting people who actually need their help.
So who gets to decide who the real fascists and nazis are? Ask a bunch of different people and you'll get a bunch of different answers.
True, ask a nazi, and they will give you a different answer than others, but most of the time it's a general consensus type of thing and logical thought. This concept of "fully open free speech" is of course utterly moronic on every level, there is a standard that society requires, and it's moving on a daily basis, to ignore that is just stupid. (and of course most of the time people complaining about the loss of free speech are just too stupid to realize that it's not the loss, but it's a reaction to their comments)
Nobody decides anything, it's common consensus. it's not woke, it's common consensus. (the dumbest phrases of the past 5 or so years, to prove you are an idiot, is to use woke and snowflake)
Interesting that he boycotts what is important to him. I suppose it didn't matter that as it expanded, Target pushed a bunch of mom and pop stores out of business, or that it imports its good in part from China
Why though is one supposed to care what Mr. B thinks/says? If he keeps pitching like he has this year, he can do his yapping in AAA. On the other hand, if he pitches like last year...
Kershaw is a classy guy; focus more on how he badly he pitched in 4 out of his last 5 starts, then he can worry about the "nuns."
16. Only punching I do is a keyboard; not as brave as some others.
Also, #4 Trudeaustan; I get you are an intelligent person, but you write stuff, well, maybe it is too arch for me. Maybe I am not smart enough to be part of your audience, but sometimes write stuff and I just don't get at all what you mean
Um...no. There's very little "common consensus" about anything these days.
You can object/denounce someone else's speech all you want.
Where is the government action on this?
Bass should get boycotted for being lousy this year.
start with the low hanging fruit: the nazi pride parades; the people who erected a gallows on capitol grounds; people who own more assault rifles than appliances; anyone who ever gave money to donald trump.
fascism is an ideology, not an identity. you don't need to exterminate every single one of them; you just need to trim the herd to ensure the movement can't recruit exponentially or operate comfortably in broad daylight.
we're not coming for the "beaver leavers". yet.
you're not wrong.
if you're looking for some kind of guiding principle, i'm partial to this one: if you don't have a good reason to care one way or the other, be on the side that helps people.
In how many other parks would he be booed? Would he be booed in Texas or Florida?
He's a 35-year-old right-handed relief pitcher who has bounced around with seven teams (over eight stops) in a 12-year career, and is making $3m this year, after which he will be a free agent. He is not pitching particularly well this year.
I'm not saying you should contradict your own beliefs to make a buck, but nobody is asking Bass his opinion about LGBTQ issues; nobody cares what he thinks about politics or public policy. He is extremely unlikely to change anything by posting what he posted. He is going to be a marginal FA this winter, and I would not want my team to sign him, even for a few million for a year, because of the high likelihood they'll have to deal with some stupid, unforced error stuff like this during the season. (And I'm putting the airplane fiasco right there with this, FWIW.) So foolish.
John Oliver several years ago did a segment about how many corporations feel compelled to comment in some form on so many social or political issues, and then get themselves in trouble for something nobody asked them about. It's called the "Twinkies 9/11 Problem": Several years ago, on the anniversary of 9/11, Twinkies tweeted a graphic of a silhouette of the Twin Towers...except they were Twinkies...and it simply said something like, "Never Forget".
They got lambasted for it, ended up having to apologize, clean it up, etc. So dumb. There were exactly zero people who said, "I wonder what Twinkies is thinking about the 9/11 anniversary." When in doubt on social media, just don't write it. Nobody cares.
In a few years, Anthony Bass will be "retired" (whether he wants to stop pitching or not), and then he can post whatever he wants, I guess, without any direct professional consequences. He has the right to post/share stuff like this, but aside from the sentiment itself (where I see the world differently than he does), he just can't get out of his own way.
Riiiiiiight. I can see you at a Klan meeting right now, explaining to your brothers and sisters how important it is to tolerate BLM and Antifa rhetoric so that you folks can say the things you say without repercussion.
The rest of us are free to call Bass a ####### piece of garbage.
Because that's wrong.
Now, if you'll excuse me - I'm late to place my order for 100 Chick-fil-a sandwiches and loudly say that I no longer want them because the company has a DEI officer who must be cancelled. If I don't get started soon, I won't have the time to buy any Bud Light to shoot later tonight, to say nothing of haranguing random people shopping and working at Target.
I tell ya, this fighting for freedumb really puts a dent in your day!
I'd never heard of this before, but it sounds more like an attempt at black humor by John Oliver than anything that a corporation would actually run as a commercial. Hard to believe that any corporation would be that stupid.
It reminded me of a window placard that I used to see on Metro RIDE-ON buses in Montgomery County, driving by my shop many times a day, within weeks of Princess Diana's death in a limo crash. They featured a larger than life photo of Princess Di, with the caption underneath reading "THIS SURE BEATS DRIVING". They were removed after a few days, but it was so breathtakingly offensive that like that Twinkie ad, it crossed the line into sublime black humor. YMMV I know.
But the all time champ along these lines was an ad that the DC Lottery ran in The City Paper one year on MLK's birthday. It showed a large photo of Dr. King, with the text reading "HE, TOO, HAD A DREAM / DC LOTTERY". It almost seemed as if King was being accused of plagiarism.
sorry for the PTSD, but ram ranch really rocks.
Sorry, Ron, but where the rest of us come from, what took place in Ottawa was indeed peaceful. In contrast, the "mostly peaceful" protests in this country in May-June 2020 resulted in at least 19 deaths and over a billion dollars in property damage.
What an utterly bizarre argument.
"Where I come from that is just a drop in the bucket so I resent that your leaders are attempting to do something about it"
In Canada he gets booed for what said.
In Texas he'll get booed for apologizing for it.
Everybody wins.
As expected, Pointless Bivens is unable to contribute anything but ad hominem silliness. Everyone’s rhetoric is protected by the 1st Amendment, as long as it stops short of incitement to violence. You know what isn’t protected? The nonsense in the post immediately before mine, where Brownshirt Stiggles advocates punching & killing those with views he (and probably mostly everyone else) disagrees with. That shouldn’t be controversial. Brandenberg v. Ohio was a unanimous Supreme Court decision.
I think it is fortunate that at least *some* of those responsible for those deaths have been brought to justice.
The murderer of Garret Morgan who had been protesting in Texas, Daniel Perry, has been convicted of murder and sentenced to prison.
The murderer of James Scurlock, who had been protesting in Omaha - Jacob Gardner - had been charged with manslaughter but committed suicide before the case went to trial.
The murderer of Summer Taylor, who had been protesting in Seattle, is still pending trial on vehicular homicide.
The murderer of Robert Forbes, who had been protesting in Bakersfield - fled to Mexico before arrest warrant, likely to also be vehicular homicide, was issued and died there.
David Patrick Underwood, murdered by "Boogaloo Boy" (a far-right extremist group) Steven Carillo, didn't live to see his murderer convicted and sentenced to 41 years.
Italia Marie Kelly, who was protesting in Davenport and murdered by Parker Belz, didn't live to see her murderer get sentenced to 25 years on 1st degree murder.
In some cases, there are legitimate concerns that justice wasn't served.
Dorian Murrell, killed protesting in Indianapolis by Tyler Newby - saw his killer convicted of lesser charge and basically get a suspended sentence and home arrest.
Then, of course, there was Jacob Blake and Gaige Grosskreutz, killed in Kenosha - whose murderer was acquitted.
Of course, as is far too often the case, several of the dead were killed by police who merely got fired for the killings...
Sean Monterrosa was shot and killed by Vallejo police officer Jarrett Tonn. While Tonn has not been charged - though open investigations remain pending - he was fired for "failure to follow procedure" when he shot Monterrosa through his cruiser window.
David McAtee, a popular BBQ restaurant owner and protester in Louisville, was shot and killed by police but it wasn't possible to determine who fired the fatal shot. The Louisville police chief was fired, however.
To be sure, lots of imperfect justice meted out...
But, as always, I thank Juannity for his sincere concerns.
The same thing, every single time, from the man who accuses others of no substance.
Not gonna comment on the overall point of this post, but look up those names again.
Hint: neither of them are dead
JE is like someone you invite to a dinner party, who says “I’ll stop by but I can’t stay.” When everyone sits down to eat, JE walks around the table interrupting everyone’s conversations to say has to leave, farting as he goes, smirking at his immaturity and leaving a distasteful, lingering reminder to the guests that he made an appearance.
And that is what the "ignore" feature is for.
Ugh/oops. Yeah, I got lazy/sloppy.
But of course, my overall point is - I hope - clear.
The majority of those 19 deaths *were* protesters.
Of course - if Juannity weren't a superficial metronome who needs a safe space - he'd certainly bring up Aaron Danielson, who was murdered in Portland by what basically amounts to a bizarro mirror image of himself... but his murderer, Michael Reinoehl, was killed by federal agents attempting to arrest him. There's also David Dorn - retired STL PD captain - who was murdered interrupting a burglary the night of the protests, but his killer is unknown.
I also excluded victims like Calvin Horton - killed in Minneapolis, where the preponderance of what we know indicates he was shot on the sidewalk by a pawn shop owner and he wasn't engaged in any looting, but it's not at all clear enough to charge (much less convict) the shooter.
The overall point, though, stands.
Brandenberg stands for the opposite position actually. General advocacy for violent acts is protected speech. What is not protected is advocating for "imminent lawless action," which obviously is not applicable here (unless someone has a Nazi in their clutches that we don't know about).
Free speech is more than just the First Amendment. That sets government's role (in the US.) But free speech as an ideal and concept exists beyond that. A private organization or platform can support and promote the ideals of free speech, or censor and suppress it. And in turn, other organizations and individuals can support and patronize them, or boycott and shun them.
The problem with this is it just makes you define everything you don't like as incitement in order to ban it.
surely, those nazis will see the error of their ways if we keep feeding them cake.
You mean the guy who will soon be pardoned by Greg Abbot?
I haven't kept completely current on that one, but I think that din has quieted down since unsealed evidence would appear to indicate that A)Perry was on the prowl for someone to kill, and B)appears to, shall we say, not like non-white people.
I've really liked Marcus Stroman since he signed with the Cubs - ebullient, fun player. Seems like a great teammate, quickly made himself quite beloved by the fans. One the few ballplayers I follow on twitter.
I feel bad he's saddled with a pretty shitty edition of the Cubs, but FWIW -
...today and again.
I hope Jed can find a way to do more than stick the husk of Hosmer behind him.
Also Texas has a system that the Governor can't pardon someone unless a board/panel makes the recommendation, so he's not entirely in control of whether he has the option to pardon him. Obviously he can put pressure etc. But it's also possible he's playing it both ways and behind closed doors is pushing them to not make the recommendation so he can say he would have honored his promise if given a chance. (Texas isn't as red as it used to be or as it's reputation would have you believe)
Huh? You affirmatively said his speech was not protected, despite it clearly being of the kind Brandenberg addressed:
Perhaps it’s a matter of interpretation, but Stiggles didn’t say there may come a time when people will have to punch or kill those he considers fascists/Nazis, but that it should be done now. My reference was meant to be his to carrying out such Brownshirt thuggery, but I probably could have been clearer. Stiggles utterances wouldn’t be protected if the context indicated the individual or group that he was advocating violence against, but I assume our resident street warrior wouldn’t be shy about that outside of BBTF.
Some People: I have been censored for my conservative views
Me: Holy ####! You were censored for wanting lower taxes?
SP: LOL no...no not those views
Me: So....deregulation?
SP: Haha no not those views either
Me: Which views, exactly?
SP: Oh, you know the ones
Nazi Punching has been something people have advocated for (seriously or not) for many years. Don't know of any cases where its be found to be imminent lawless action. It certainly isn't specific enough to qualify as such.
From what I can tell the one time it happened there was no actions taken. (Police said no one reported a crime--even though it was caught on camera)
Except for Steve Garvey. Everyone should punch that guy.
It's Brownshirt thuggery to punch a Brownshirt? I see. LOL!
From now on, I'm against punching Nazis. I'm against violence toward Nazis. They are good Nazis. We shouldn't paint them all with the same brush. I'm sure you'd agree with me, Clapper.
OK, I'll bite: When were there?
It's a trick question.
Absent a codicil eliminating the standing Garvey rule, Garvey doesn't count towards the bag limit so you still get to punch both.
These new ones couldn't shine the jackboots of the good ones from yesteryear.
EDIT: If the term is used properly, of course!
Quentin Tarantino.
Not speaking for clapper, but I assume that the mention of a good nazi is an implication that in the 1940's there were plenty of Germans who were technically Nazi's who didn't really follow/care/know the actual beliefs and actions of the Nazi party. But they were technically Nazis, that includes even soldiers for Germany. (and some of those could be classified as good people---of course, there are also possibly good christians/catholics, even though their organizations are without fail, are utterly evil--Bass doesn't fall into this sub-group)
Try as you might, you can't weasel word your way out of that.
What pro-free speech are saying now and have said literally for 300 years is - that sucks! Since the inevitable consequence of suppressions of speech is mutual and warring suppression of all types of speech, it is better to have a detente where no speech is suppressed because that results net net in a more pleasant society with a better shot at the development and exchange of ideas. There is no world in which only “bad” speech or “illiberal” speech or “socialist” speech gets suppressed, because as time goes to infinity the pendulum of power always swings.
This doesn't mean we stop protecting weaker groups from being harmed when the weapon used to incite harm to them is "speech".
Never gets old.
You are virtually never going to get unprotected speech under Brandenburg out of an Internet post. It's focused on something like giving a speech to an angry mob.
That seems like a rather far-fetched hypothetical. Something so beyond the realm of practical possibilities today that it's almost meaningless.
One or two of those things being true? Maybe.
Hard to see them all being simultaneously true.
Besides, the problem would solve itself because every non-crazy person would do everything possible to distance themselves from such a cacophonous carnival.
To a point? Tell the judge who's about to sentence you that he is filthy Jew and see if you get a slap on the wrist.
If a lawyer said your phrase to a judge, the judge might hold the lawyer in contempt. Does that mean lawyers do not have free speech rights? The law permits a judge to maintain decorum in a courtroom. Tell the same thing to someone to whom you are applying for a job, see if you get the job. What is your point? That adverse consequences exist from speaking one's mind, does not, at least as broadly as you put it, equate to first amendment violation.
Then the law permits at least this one exception to the 1A. It's a minor point.
The point I was making in 80 was that Clapper crows about perceived violations of the 1A while at the same time denying that the FL state gov't is engaged in censorship. If he didn't do it in this thread, he did it in the Clemente thread.
i am not understanding the brandenburg rule
so lets say i go into a meeting of breastfeeding mothers against formula and shout - babies do best on formula!!!!
did i break the brandenburg rule? or only if the angry breastfeeding females tear me to bits
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