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Sunday, September 29, 2019

Joe Maddon and nine other MLB managers on the hot seat

On Sunday, 20 MLB teams will play their final game of the 2019 season.

By Monday, half of those teams could be looking for a new manager.

That’s how much turnover is possible in the managerial ranks.

Some teams have already made the decision to go in another direction. Others are weighing their options. And others still are rumored to be basing their decisions on who becomes available.

A consideration of managers, just before the merry-go-round could begin moving.

QLE Posted: September 29, 2019 at 12:44 AM | 32 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: brad ausmus, clint hurdle, dave roberts, don mattingly, gabe kapler, joe maddon, managers, mickey callaway, rick renteria, ron gardenhire, scott servais

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   1. Moeball Posted: September 29, 2019 at 01:06 AM (#5884267)
Ok, granted, with the talent the Cubs have, they shouldn't be missing the playoffs, but does that necessarily mean someone else is going to get better results than Maddon has? Who should they hire if he does get the boot? And what's with the rumors I'm hearing that somehow Theo Epstein may be headed back to the Red Sox? Say what? Seriously?
   2. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: September 29, 2019 at 01:21 AM (#5884269)
So the Pirates consider salary owed in personnel decisions?? That's so dumb.
   3. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 29, 2019 at 01:49 AM (#5884271)
I think the consensus regarding Maddon is that it may just be one of those "It's time to move on" deals where the perception is the manager has gotten all that he can from the team and it's just time to try someone else.

Personally I don't think it's a vital move, but the last few weeks have sort of prepped me to just assume that Maddon won't be back next season and I've come to accept it.
   4. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: September 29, 2019 at 02:13 AM (#5884273)
3--That sounds right. Cubs have won a lot of games but the trend line just keeps inching down right? Won world series, lost NLCS, lost playin game and now not in playoffs. And 5 years as boss is about the shelf life in most businesses.
   5. Tin Angel Posted: September 29, 2019 at 03:31 AM (#5884276)
I'm sure Cubs fans here are more tuned in but one I know thinks Girardi is waiting in the wings. Buster Olney keeps mentioning David Ross.
   6. Yakov Posted: September 29, 2019 at 03:41 AM (#5884277)
In Soviet Russia, the hot seat is on YOU!
   7. The Duke Posted: September 29, 2019 at 08:13 AM (#5884284)
Maddon has won the last two games against cards with a triple A team in St. Louis against a team needing a win. I’d say he’s still engaged. Cubs would be crazy to let him go. It’s a complete misdiagnosis of the issue. The cubs have been destroyed by injuries in September - it’s that simple. He’s been averaging 90+ wins for 4-5 years. Let him manage through Bryant’s departure
   8. bobm Posted: September 29, 2019 at 08:51 AM (#5884286)
Record with current team:

                                   
               Mgr    W    L W-L%
       Brad Ausmus   72   89 .447
   Mickey Callaway  162  161 .502
    Ron Gardenhire  111  211 .345
      Clint Hurdle  735  720 .505
       Gabe Kapler  161  162 .498
        Joe Maddon  471  338 .582
     Don Mattingly  275  370 .426
     Rick Renteria  273  373 .423
      Dave Roberts  392  256 .605
     Scott Servais  320  327 .495


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 9/29/2019.
   9. The Duke Posted: September 29, 2019 at 09:59 AM (#5884292)
94 wins a year for five years and this is not a team full of great players like the dodgers and Astros where all a manager has to do is not screw up
   10. Bote Man Posted: September 29, 2019 at 10:21 AM (#5884294)
#FireDeivi
   11. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 29, 2019 at 11:01 AM (#5884296)
Maddon will last about a day or two on the free agent market after the World Series.

If the Dodgers lose AGAIN in the World Series, then they'll scoop him up.
Otherwise, I could see the Mets or Angels or Padres or Phillies jumping in to grab him.
   12. JJ1986 Posted: September 29, 2019 at 11:07 AM (#5884298)
Callaway and Kapler seem like they're out. I don't see how Ausmus can stay after reporting that they want to replace him. Servais will probably get traded.
   13. McCoy Posted: September 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM (#5884301)
Well, the Cubs were supposed to be a team where the main job for the manager was not to screw up.
   14. McCoy Posted: September 29, 2019 at 11:48 AM (#5884302)
Just goes to show you that the Cubs need a lot of work.
   15. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 29, 2019 at 11:56 AM (#5884307)
Well, the Cubs were supposed to be a team where the main job for the manager was not to screw up.

Supposed to when? They were projected to high 80s wins before the season. This is a good team, but not a juggernaut.

Just goes to show you that the Cubs need a lot of work.

Less than anyone else in their division, but sure, they need to add some players and spend some money.
   16. McCoy Posted: September 29, 2019 at 12:11 PM (#5884311)
When? How about 2016, 2017, and 2018?

They need to do less than anyone else in their division but weren't expected to be a good team? Hmmm
   17. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 29, 2019 at 12:35 PM (#5884314)
When? How about 2016, 2017, and 2018?


And those years were: 1st place - WS, 1st place - reached NLCS, 2nd place (won 95 games and lost G163) - lost WC. They succeeded in all three of those years.

There seems to be some mystical belief that after 2016 the Cubs no longer needed to compete for the division, but were destined to win by 10 games every year, and anything less was failure. Don't know where that came from.

They need to do less than anyone else in their division but weren't expected to be a good team? Hmmm

Different time periods. Before 2019 they were projected for high 80s wins, and right in the divisional mix. After 2019, they have some holes, but still look like the best team in the division. They need to spend some money and add a few players.

   18. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 29, 2019 at 12:52 PM (#5884320)
they need to add some players and spend some money.
Jeez, this seems to be your ‘solution’ for everyone these days - even the team with the *second highest payroll in MLB for 2019*?? One might think that you have an ideological agenda. They need to improve their drafting and player development, especially for pitching, and stop throwing money away on stupid FA contracts.
   19. Tin Angel Posted: September 29, 2019 at 01:19 PM (#5884329)
He gone.
   20. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 29, 2019 at 01:22 PM (#5884331)
Maddon is gone, a guy who was highly regarded at every managerial stop. Managers have been scapegoats for a team’s performance since forever, but the current ‘Cult of the GM’ era seems to have accelerated the trend, or extended it to less warranted situations. I doubt the Cubs will be better next season.
   21. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 29, 2019 at 01:28 PM (#5884335)
Jeez, this seems to be your ‘solution’ for everyone these days - even the team with the *second highest payroll in MLB for 2019*?? One might think that you have an ideological agenda. They need to improve their drafting and player development, especially for pitching, and stop throwing money away on stupid FA contracts.

Ummm, that's the solution when you have an 85-88 win team that should be in division contention next year, and you're an obscenely rich franchise.

Of course they should improve drafting and development but 1) that doesn't cost much, and won't keep them from spending on FAs, and 2) that won't help in the next 1-3 years while their core is still in its prime.
   22. Bote Man Posted: September 29, 2019 at 01:31 PM (#5884337)
but were destined to win by 10 games every year, and anything less was failure. Don't know where that came from.

I thought it was a given that unless you win the World's Series, you didn't "win" and were thus subject to ridicule and bitter complaining from your fans???

Apparently managers can be fired for that and much less.
   23. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 29, 2019 at 01:34 PM (#5884340)
I thought it was a given that unless you win the World's Series, you didn't "win" and were thus subject to ridicule and bitter complaining from your fans???

Apparently managers can be fired for that and much less.


It's a bit much coming from Cubs fans. You'd think the guy who won the first Word Series in 108 years would get at least five years of good will.
   24. McCoy Posted: September 29, 2019 at 01:51 PM (#5884346)
I get the feeling you're just talking to hear yourself talk. That was before the season but now after . . .but still look . . yadda yadda yadda.
   25. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 29, 2019 at 01:57 PM (#5884347)
I get the feeling you're just talking to hear yourself talk. That was before the season but now after . . .but still look . . yadda yadda yadda.

You misread my post. I was simply explaining the apparent contradiction you misread into it.

I'm talking because a bunch of Cubs fans are acting like the worst sort of entitled fans.
   26. Bote Man Posted: September 29, 2019 at 02:03 PM (#5884350)
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Pirates firing manager Clint Hurdle, sources tell The Athletic. GM Neal Huntington will stay. Coaching staff to be determined by next manager.

The dominoes are falling.
   27. JJ1986 Posted: September 29, 2019 at 02:21 PM (#5884356)
Did Hurdle just lie when he said the team was bringing him back?
   28. Bote Man Posted: September 29, 2019 at 02:52 PM (#5884366)
With Bochy retiring, Craig Counsell is the longest-tenured manager in the NL. I mean, the guy hasn't even graduated high school fercrissakes!
   29. Bote Man Posted: September 29, 2019 at 11:41 PM (#5884507)
Fabian Ardaya @FabianArdaya
The Angels are “still evaluating all aspects” of the major league operation, including the status of manager Brad Ausmus, a source tells The Athletic.

Said Ausmus today: “I still have a contract.”



Anthony DiComo @AnthonyDiComo
Mickey Callaway remains under contract, but the Mets plan to hold organizational meetings without him. Callaway's future should soon become clear.

It seems that they're under contract until they're not.
   30. Howie Menckel Posted: September 29, 2019 at 11:47 PM (#5884510)
lots of hiccups this year, but if the Mets fire a guy who finished 42-21 I want to see a chart of similar firings (non-Yankee division).

I'm lukewarm, personally. don't like his strategery but the players seem to have bought in.
   31. Captain Supporter Posted: September 30, 2019 at 09:01 AM (#5884547)
Firing Calloway is the best way for Brodie to take the focus off his awful trades and free agent signings. He was the mistake, not Calloway.
   32. Bote Man Posted: September 30, 2019 at 02:41 PM (#5884685)
Bleacher Report MLB @BR_MLB
The Angels have fired Brad Ausmus after only one season, per @Buster_ESPN

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