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Joe Maddon, Angels Expected to Agree on Contract Shortly After Interview | BR

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 07, 2019 at 09:57 PM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. PreservedFish Posted: October 07, 2019 at 11:05 PM (#5887743)
He must be pretty nervous about this interview, huh?
   2. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 07, 2019 at 11:21 PM (#5887749)
Maybe Joe can go “undercover” and interview with some other teams, then report back to the Angels.
   3. Walt Davis Posted: October 07, 2019 at 11:36 PM (#5887755)
Are these at least "sources familiar with Angels' thinking" or some such? The quoted "source" sounds like anybody: C'mon, we heard about this the second his availability was announced so of course we should pretend it's already happened.
   4. Red Voodooin Posted: October 07, 2019 at 11:52 PM (#5887765)
The Angels are getting a great manager. They'll be a postseason fixture going forward.
   5. The Duke Posted: October 08, 2019 at 08:02 AM (#5887819)
So:

Maddon to angels
Girardi to cubs
Beltran to Mets
Matheny to royals

Any hot rumors on giants, padres or pirates ?
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 08, 2019 at 08:59 AM (#5887825)
They'll be a postseason fixture going forward.

I'd slow down on that. Managers don't matter that much. Angels still have a shambles of a rotation and many holes in the lineup.
   7. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: October 08, 2019 at 09:50 AM (#5887844)
Maddon to angels
Girardi to cubs
Beltran to Mets
Matheny to royals


Girardi to the Mets, David Ross to the Cubs. Probably.
   8. PreservedFish Posted: October 08, 2019 at 09:54 AM (#5887846)
I think we can all at least agree that Joe Maddon is the right guy to be managing Shohei Ohtani.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 08, 2019 at 09:59 AM (#5887848)
Girardi to the Mets

Hope you're right. I like Girardi, and I like this incarnation of the Mets.
   10. The Good Face Posted: October 08, 2019 at 10:20 AM (#5887853)
They'll be a postseason fixture going forward.

I'd slow down on that. Managers don't matter that much. Angels still have a shambles of a rotation and many holes in the lineup.


No kidding. Maddon is, at a minimum, a capable manager, but the Angels finished 35 games behind Houston for the division. 24 games behind Tampa for the 2nd wild card slot. No amount of managing is overcoming gaps like that.
   11. CFBF's Overflowing Pathos Posted: October 08, 2019 at 10:29 AM (#5887860)
Just how badly could Maddon blow off this interview and still get the job? Show up an hour and a half late, swig from a can of Natty Light, begin every answer to every question with an extended "Duuuuuuuude?"
   12. PreservedFish Posted: October 08, 2019 at 11:07 AM (#5887880)
I figured #4 was sarcastic.
   13. SoSH U at work Posted: October 08, 2019 at 11:31 AM (#5887891)

I figured #4 was sarcastic.


I don't think so. He's a pretty big Joe guy, based on the Cubs threads on the subject.
   14. The Good Face Posted: October 08, 2019 at 11:35 AM (#5887895)
I figured #4 was sarcastic.


Maybe? I do think Maddon is a legit good manager, probably as close to a difference maker as a manager can be. I'd be pretty happy if he was going to my team. But the Angels are in a bad place and Trout ain't getting any younger.
   15. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 08, 2019 at 11:38 AM (#5887898)
Just how badly could Maddon blow off this interview and still get the job?
Probably something like this.
   16. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: October 08, 2019 at 12:01 PM (#5887906)
Just how badly could Maddon blow off this interview and still get the job? Show up an hour and a half late, swig from a can of Natty Light, begin every answer to every question with an extended "Duuuuuuuude?"


I was assuming that's how all of his interview go anyways.
   17. JAHV Posted: October 08, 2019 at 12:23 PM (#5887917)
This worries me more than if we heard nothing. That quote from the source isn't exactly reassuring with the question mark at the end.

Maddon will be an upgrade on just about anyone else they could reasonably hire, but Snapper's right. Unless Maddon brings several good starters with him in his back pocket, this is putting lipstick on a pig.
   18. Red Voodooin Posted: October 08, 2019 at 01:57 PM (#5887960)
I meant #4 sincerely (ish). I don't know much about the Angels' roster outside of Trout and Ohtani so maybe I'm far too bullish, and managers aren't really that important. What's a reasonable over/under for LAA playoff appearances under Maddon? One?
   19. The Good Face Posted: October 08, 2019 at 02:57 PM (#5887991)
I meant #4 sincerely (ish). I don't know much about the Angels' roster outside of Trout and Ohtani so maybe I'm far too bullish, and managers aren't really that important. What's a reasonable over/under for LAA playoff appearances under Maddon? One?


They lost 90 games last year despite Mike Trout having a solid Mike Trout season. With the possible exception of Ohtani and Simmons, there's really no position players on the roster who they can realistically expect to be significantly better next year and the farm system is meh. Albert Pujols is signed for 2 more seasons and seems intent on playing out the string (and is getting significant playing time). The starting pitching was terrible and their best starter died in 2019 (cross him off then!). And with the exception of their closer, the bullpen wasn't much better.

If they make good moves and get some breaks, they can probably contend in 2021, but they've been mired in mediocrity for the past 5 years.
   20. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 08, 2019 at 03:34 PM (#5888009)
First day of 2020 Spring Training:
New Angels Manager Joe Maddon: OK everybody, team meeting. [Turns to Mike Trout] I don’t need you for this one, Mike - can you get me a long-range weather forecast for Opening Day? [Trout happily runs off to the Angels recently-installed Weather Center.]

Maddon: Guys, this is simple. You’re playing with the best player in your generation, or most others, but the team hasn’t had much success. You need to play better, or you’ll be gone.
   21. Zonk didn't order a hit on an ambassador Posted: October 08, 2019 at 04:13 PM (#5888026)
Fare thee well, Joe.

Thanks for the memories - most of them were great. Maybe we'll see you again some October soon.

   22. Zonk didn't order a hit on an ambassador Posted: October 08, 2019 at 04:20 PM (#5888029)
They lost 90 games last year despite Mike Trout having a solid Mike Trout season. With the possible exception of Ohtani and Simmons, there's really no position players on the roster who they can realistically expect to be significantly better next year and the farm system is meh. Albert Pujols is signed for 2 more seasons and seems intent on playing out the string (and is getting significant playing time). The starting pitching was terrible and their best starter died in 2019 (cross him off then!). And with the exception of their closer, the bullpen wasn't much better.


They need some help, most definitely - but I think Griffin Canning is going to be really good. Jo Adell is likewise a stud in waiting - though, he might make sense more as a trade chit to get a SP.

With some health and a smart offseason? I could see them in the mix... Their biggest obstacle is that I just cannot see anyone but the Astros winning the west, so they're pretty much stuck playing for WC HFA.
   23. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 08, 2019 at 04:29 PM (#5888033)
New Angels Manager Joe Maddon: OK everybody, team meeting. [Turns to Mike Trout] I don’t need you for this one, Mike - can you get me a long-range weather forecast for Opening Day? [Trout happily runs off to the Angels recently-installed Weather Center.]

Maddon: Guys, this is simple. You’re playing with the best player in your generation, or most others, but the team hasn’t had much success. You need to play better, or you’ll be gone.


Joe Posnanski's book on the 1975 Reds indicates that this was Sparky Anderson's modus operandi with the Reds - Bench, Morgan, Rose, and Perez got special treatment, and everyone else was regarded as fungible parts who could be replaced at any time.
   24. The Duke Posted: October 08, 2019 at 04:37 PM (#5888038)
Joe could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and the angels would still hire him
   25. Itchy Row Posted: October 08, 2019 at 04:42 PM (#5888042)
Joe Posnanski's book on the 1975 Reds indicates that this was Sparky Anderson's modus operandi with the Reds - Bench, Morgan, Rose, and Perez got special treatment, and everyone else was regarded as fungible parts who could be replaced at any time.
Fungible parts or, as Sparky called them, "turds."
   26. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 08, 2019 at 05:02 PM (#5888057)
Any hot rumors on giants, padres or pirates ?


For the Pirates, I've seen a lot of mentions of Derek Shelton (who's probably the favorite at this point), and also some speculation about Omar Vizquel, Joe McEwing, Don Kelly, and Dusty Wathan. Jeff Banister is the top internal candidate, though Joey Cora might also get a courtesy interview. Tom Prince was already told that he isn't being retained, so he's definitely out.

Jason Kendall tried to throw his hat in the ring, but I don't think he's considered a serious possibility.
   27. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 08, 2019 at 05:14 PM (#5888063)
   28. Walt Davis Posted: October 08, 2019 at 06:00 PM (#5888071)
Jason Kendall tried to throw his hat in the ring

If he throws the way he did when he was with the Cubs, that hat came up 6 feet short.
   29. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: October 08, 2019 at 06:31 PM (#5888084)
If he throws the way he did when he was with the Cubs, that hat came up 6 feet short.


If he hits the way he did with the A's, that hat just grounded into a double play.

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