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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Sunday, October 09, 2011John Feinstein: Question for Red Sox fansLast Chance: Behind the Scenes at the Final Eight…
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Posted: October 09, 2011 at 12:16 PM | 32 comment(s)
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1. AndrewJ Posted: October 09, 2011 at 01:14 PM (#3957480)FUN FACT: Esther Newberg was one of RFK's secretaries during the 1968 presidential primaries, and she was at the party with Mary Jo Kopechne and Teddy Kennedy the night of the Chappaquiddick incident.
Get. Over. It.
No, I'd buy the book. Especially if you get really good stuff.
It's hard to get too grumpy about 2011 when your region's teams, in the last decade:
1) have a baseball team with two rings, and two other Game 7 ALCS losses;
2) have a basketball team with a ring, and a Game 7 Finals loss;
3) have the defending NHL champion, after 40 years of no rings; and
4) have an NFL team with three rings, and another Super Bowl loss.
We have nothing about which to complain, in the big picture...
I think it would work better in many years such as the book about the 1908 race to give fans who weren't there some perspective on this incredible day of baseball.
FWIW, I think Theo Epstein has a more complicated track record with Red Sox fans than Tom Glavine has with Mets fans. Theo won a couple of championships, I believe. Glavine punished the Mets for a decade and a half, then won nothing in New York.
That Glavine/Mussina book is just fantastic, by the way.
Hmm... sounds like there might be a book there.
Myabe. But research and write it now, so you have all the fresh perspectives. Then wait until 2021 to publish it.
The beauty of being a Red Sox fan is that as long as the Yankees don't win the WS, its a perfectly acceptable year.
Go Brewers and Rangers!
The argument he should be making to Esther is--"hey, SOMEBODY is going to do this book...wouldn't it be better if I did it rather than someone else?"
From what he wrote, it sounds as though he's only about 60% sold on his own idea.
Also, Howard, you should forward him this page.
See #3.
The book should be exactly 162 pages long. With 6 good chapters and 2 chapters that are just OK tacked on.
One model for this is Joshua Prager's book, The Echoing Green, which is a joint biography of Thomson and Branca, and also a social history, focusing on Oct 3 of 1951. I bought it at an airport bookstore before a cross-country flight, not expecting much. But it is excellent.
I can see why Boston and Atlanta fans would not want to read the book Feinstein is proposing, through.
I read a fairly long SI story in 1987 (I believe) that rehashed the '86 series and in particular the final two games, but I highly doubt I would have bought a book on the subject.
I agree. I also bought the book basically on a whim and found it one of the best books - baseball or not - I've read in the past few years.
Othjer good baseball books about one day are Dan Okrent's Nine Innings and Lew Paper's book on Don Larsen's perfect game (title escapes me at the moment.) Personally, I'd prefer something from an outsider fan's perspective than from a pro, but I don't work for a publisher. It's not my call.
I found it a mite too florid myself, but YMM(and obviously does)V. Not that's it's bad, by any means. I got to read it as a judge for Elysian Fields Quarterly's Dave Moore Award and it earned a second-place vote from me, behind A Well-Paid Slave by Brad Snyder.
Fair point, but I thought the style worked about 98% of the time, because, like that of the great Robert A. Caro, who appears to be an influence on Prager, Prager's style was combined with great flow and precise and arresting detail.
And P.S.: Used copies of each of these books begin at one cent on Amazon. Talk about a steal.
This sounds like a few of Feinstein's books that I've already read. Essays blown up to book length.
How do they do this? Or all the abe.com books that go for, maybe, a buck plus shipping? The book has to be bought, or at least found, then transported and stored, then someone has to pack the thing and cause it to be mailed. It's nuts. I'm amazed ANY used bookstores survive.
1. Most of these places don't have open shops, so they're paying warehouse-level rents at worst, and no extra rent at all in some cases, if they're dealing out of their houses. If fact, many home dealers can get a tax writeoff for claiming a room or three of their house as a business expense. I never did that, but it was suggested to me many times, and it's perfectly kosher.
2. With Amazon's $3.99 postage, you're really paying $4.00 for those "1 cent" books. It's still a steal, but it's not a penny. And with media mail rates, a dealer can usually make a nominal profit when the book is small and light, as it is in both of these cases.
3. Most of those "$0.01" books come to the sellers in large lots where the allowed outlay is for the other books, where the demand to supply ratio is far more favorable to the seller. Books like the Hano and the Schwartz, great as they are, are known to probably something like .01% of Amazon's browsers.
4. Those $0.01 books are usually titles in such great oversupply that if you want to sell them, the $0.01 price is virtually mandatory. The far greater problem is that if you try to sell them even for $0.02, you run the risk of never selling them, and you wind up with an inordinate amount of shelf space tied up in dead inventory. If you have an open shop, you can have a sale to get rid of some of these books, but the time and trouble to put on one of those sales is usually more trouble than it's worth, for many reasons.
5. But the overall moral is that if you overlook the many intangible benefits of brick and mortar used book shops---that's a whole separate subject---this is the golden age of books from the POV of the book buyer. Take away the top 1% or 2% of genuinely scarce and rare titles, and the inflation-adjusted prices of the other 98% to 99% have fallen off a cliff in the past 10 years. For better and for worse---and believe me, it's both---the balance of power has shifted almost completely from the seller to the buyer.
I know it's sacrilegious but B and N does an almost tolerable job. The three drawbacks are 1) they actually play music in the stores. WTF? 2) Staff, including managers, who yap with outdoor voices 3) the money that gets funneled out of town.
I suppose it'll draw shrieks, but what a shame we didn't limit chain stores/franchising.
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