Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Tuesday, February 14, 2023

John Jaso walked away from Major League Baseball at 34, potentially leaving millions of dollars on the table. The sea was calling.

Jaso’s baseball journey was never quite as good a fit. Tampa Bay selected him in the 12th round of the 2003 draft, and he made it to the majors near the end of the 2008 season. In his nine-year career, he was traded three times and switched to first base from catcher after sustaining multiple concussions. But he had plenty of highlights too: He caught Félix Hernández’s 2012 perfect game for the Seattle Mariners — there hasn’t been one in M.L.B. since — and hit for the first cycle in PNC Park history when he was with Pittsburgh in 2016. His long dreadlocks toward the end of his career made him almost instantly recognizable. And he pulled in career earnings of more than $17 million, according to Spotrac.

But he found the M.L.B. life to be unfulfilling in some unexpected ways. “Baseball set me up for life,” he said. “I love it, and I respect it. But it was part of this culture of consumerism and overconsumption that began to weigh really heavily on me. Even when I retired, people said: ‘You might be walking away from millions of dollars!’ But I’d already made millions of dollars. Why do we always have to have more, more, more?”

Boating filled the void in his life. He familiarized himself with every foot of the ship. He took a class for diesel motor mechanics and installed solar panels and a wind generator. He devoured hours of YouTube videos about the electronics and made sure he knew what every wire did. “If anything goes wrong in the open ocean,” he said, “I’m the only one out there to fix it.”

All that was left to do: Learn how to sail.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 14, 2023 at 12:40 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: john jaso

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Walt Davis Posted: February 14, 2023 at 01:53 PM (#6117099)
Nice story and an interesting type of career, but no he didn't leave millions on the table. By this time he was a part-time 1B with OPS+s of 105 and 93 the last two seasons. He'd have gotten an NRI, I wouldn't rule out somebody like Pitt signing him for $1 M but his time was done.

And it's a career in which he never started 100 games in a season (career high 99) which was OK when he was a C although he had only one season of 50 starts there. His entire career is that of a part-time player and he was a good one with 11 WAR and 2 WAA. Making $17 M for 800 games and 2500 PA is nice work if you can get it. Out of curiosity, what does a 6th-7th guy in the NBA get?

And headline writers, have some sympahty for us old folks and add stuff like "John Jaso (no, not John Jaha, John Jaso)..." ... Comp time:

Jaso 808 G, 2591 PA, 258/356/407, 112 OPS+, 11 WAR, 2 WAA, -3 dWAA, $16 M (b-r)
Jaha 826 G, 3285 PA, 263/369/465, 116 OPS+, 12 WAR, 1 WAA, -6 dWAA, $15 M (b-r)
   2. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: February 14, 2023 at 02:23 PM (#6117106)
the M.L.B.

"The"??? "M.L.B."???

Please tell me a bot wrote this and not a real person.
   3. vortex of dissipation Posted: February 14, 2023 at 04:34 PM (#6117119)
"The"??? "M.L.B."???

Please tell me a bot wrote this and not a real person.


"...the M.L.B. life..." There's nothing wrong with the usage. The "the" refers to the word "life"; "M.L.B." is just being used as an adjective.
   4. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: February 14, 2023 at 04:59 PM (#6117123)

I agree, "the" is ok in this case, although "M.L.B." rather than "MLB" is not the standard style.

Marcus Stroman called it "the MLB" in a tweet this morning. Ever since I saw a reporter (Craig Calcaterra, I think) complain about this last year, I notice people doing it everywhere and it really bugs me. I wonder if it's more common now or whether I just notice it more now.
   5. catomi01 Posted: February 14, 2023 at 05:05 PM (#6117127)
Nice story and an interesting type of career, but no he didn't leave millions on the table. By this time he was a part-time 1B with OPS+s of 105 and 93 the last two seasons. He'd have gotten an NRI, I wouldn't rule out somebody like Pitt signing him for $1 M but his time was done.


I was going to say the bigger thing would be walking away just shy of ten years - if I remember right, a lot of post-career benefits kick in after that point...but while he played over 9 seasons, bbref says he had just over 7 years service time after 2017, and considering he was definitely a part time player at that point, 3 more seasons would have been the minimum to get there, and it easily could have taken 4 or 5 if he started bouncing around with NRI's and things like that in 19/20.
   6. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: February 14, 2023 at 05:16 PM (#6117131)
And it's a career in which he never started 100 games in a season

Huh? Jaso did that four times, including his last season in 2017.

(H)e didn't leave millions on the table. By this time he was a part-time 1B with OPS+s of 105 and 93 the last two seasons. He'd have gotten an NRI, I wouldn't rule out somebody like Pitt signing him for $1 M but his time was done.

He made $4MM in his last season, so it's conceivable he could've signed a deal for half that, or $2MM, which, yes, counts as "millions".
   7. Walt Davis Posted: February 14, 2023 at 05:32 PM (#6117134)
You are looking at games played not games started (which is well down in the "appearances" table). Career high 99 starts in 2016, also a 88 and a 83.

EDIT: And sure, teams do silly things all the time so it's possible he'd have gotten a guaranteed offer. But he was turning 34, coming off a replacement-level season as a part-time 1B/LF/RF with a below-average OPS+. In fairness, the below-average OPS+ may have been due to all the PHing.
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: February 14, 2023 at 05:44 PM (#6117138)
Marcus Stroman called it "the MLB" in a tweet this morning.
Stroman should be suspended for the full season.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 14, 2023 at 05:50 PM (#6117139)

I agree, "the" is ok in this case, although "M.L.B." rather than "MLB" is not the standard style.


NYT has a lot of idiosyncrasies like that. They always use titles "Dr., Mr.", they capitalize words others don't. NASCAR is "Nascar"
   10. McCoy Posted: February 14, 2023 at 05:54 PM (#6117140)
I believe 10 years of service time is when all your benefits max out not when new ones kick in.
   11. base ball chick Posted: February 15, 2023 at 12:56 AM (#6117185)
1. Walt Davis Posted: February 14, 2023 at 01:53 PM (#6117099)

And headline writers, have some sympahty for us old folks and add stuff like "John Jaso (no, not John Jaha, John Jaso)


- oh cmon, they dead easy to tell apart - john jaso, smoking HOTTTTT. john jaha, um not
   12. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: February 15, 2023 at 10:21 AM (#6117212)
I was going to say the bigger thing would be walking away just shy of ten years - if I remember right, a lot of post-career benefits kick in after that point.

Ten years gives you the maximum pension. It isn't a huge jump at 10 years. If he had 9 years of service time, he has 90% of the service quarters for the full pension.

https://awmcap.com/blog/mlb-service-time#:~:text=The full pension consists of,valued at $5,750 per quarter.
   13. Karl from NY Posted: February 15, 2023 at 03:05 PM (#6117248)
I wonder if it's more common now or whether I just notice it more now.

I'm pretty sure it's most common this time of year, when everybody has just come off saying "the NFL" continuously for a month.
   14. You Cannot Transcribe Zonk Posted: February 15, 2023 at 03:21 PM (#6117254)
The vested pension is certainly nice... but it looks like Jaso's career earnings are about 16.6m (I'm guessing the 17m in TFA accounts for non-MLB earnings)

That's probably not "plan on summering at a villa in Monaco" money unless you get insanely lucky with investments, but 16.6m - even assuming suboptimal taxation?

That's certainly enough - if moderately invested and not wasted on relatives, etc - to live the life Jaso sounds like he lives and wants.

Personally? I'd like an island of my own - and a *good one*, like something in the Caribbean that tend to go for ~20m or so, not one of those airbnb Hudson Bay islands that go for more like ~1m or so... So, I'd have probably looked to sign another contract or two.

But, hey, good for him. Make your bucks to support the life that appeals to you. The key to happiness is finding your own - not continually trying to reach levels that stretch into new levels because they exist.
   15. Darren Posted: February 15, 2023 at 03:27 PM (#6117257)
Millions, a million, a couple hundred thousand, whatever. Jaso had the chance to continue a career in baseball for a couple more years earning in the top 1 percent or so, allowing his savings to continue to grow. He chose not to, which is a fairly unusual step and worth talking about.

That's certainly enough - if moderately invested and not wasted on relatives, etc - to live the life Jaso sounds like he lives and wants.

What if the life he wants includes taking care of his relatives? :)
   16. Walt Davis Posted: February 15, 2023 at 03:31 PM (#6117261)
Are we talking 0.9 Ausmus or what, bbc?

Of course I simply meant the names a very similar and both played for the As and that's about as far as my brain goes these days

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Dynasty League Baseball

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
tshipman (The Viscount of Variance)
for his generous support.

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogRangers ace Jacob deGrom needs Tommy John surgery, will miss rest of 2023 season
(32 - 1:32am, Jun 09)
Last: The Yankee Clapper

NewsblogOMNICHATTER for June 2023
(276 - 12:51am, Jun 09)
Last: Addie Joss

NewsblogEconomic boost or big business hand-out? Nevada lawmakers consider A’s stadium financing
(16 - 12:48am, Jun 09)
Last: Doug Jones threw harder than me

NewsblogJays pitcher Anthony Bass sorry for posting video endorsing anti-LGBTQ boycotts
(172 - 11:43pm, Jun 08)
Last: You Cannot Transcribe Zonk

NewsblogThe Official Mets Fan Self-Immolation Thread
(995 - 11:32pm, Jun 08)
Last: cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE

Sox TherapyLining Up The Minors
(39 - 11:08pm, Jun 08)
Last: Darren

Newsblog2023 NBA Playoffs Thread
(2656 - 11:06pm, Jun 08)
Last: tshipman (The Viscount of Variance)

NewsblogBeloved ex-Met Bartolo Colon finally retires from baseball at 50
(26 - 10:22pm, Jun 08)
Last: A triple short of the cycle

Hall of MeritReranking Shortstops: Results
(2 - 9:25pm, Jun 08)
Last: Jaack

NewsblogMLB postpones Yankees, Phillies games as Canadian wildfire smoke harms air quality
(34 - 7:34pm, Jun 08)
Last: Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network)

NewsblogBobby Bolin, former Giants pitcher, dead at 84
(19 - 4:18pm, Jun 08)
Last: sanny manguillen

NewsblogBrewers' Jon Singleton back in majors for 1st time since '15
(2 - 4:07pm, Jun 08)
Last: Petunia

NewsblogArraez and Let Us Swing
(42 - 12:01pm, Jun 08)
Last: Tom and Shivs couples counselor

NewsblogReds call up top prospect Elly De La Cruz, put Nick Senzel on IL
(11 - 2:36am, Jun 08)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogBlue Jays demote Alek Manoah to rookie-level Florida Complex League
(17 - 8:12pm, Jun 07)
Last: Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful

Page rendered in 0.3680 seconds
48 querie(s) executed