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Wednesday, January 20, 2021

Jose Quintana, Los Angeles Angels agree to 1-year deal, source says

The Los Angeles Angels, desperate to add starting pitching, agreed to a one-year, $8 million contract with veteran left-hander Jose Quintana on Tuesday, a source confirmed to ESPN.

Quintana, who previously pitched under current Angels manager Joe Maddon while with the Chicago Cubs, was limited to only 10 innings in 2020 largely because of thumb surgery. Prior to that, the 31-year-old averaged 32 starts from 2013 to 2019, putting together a 3.72 ERA with a 3.23 strikeout-to-walk ratio.

Quintana joins a rotation that includes Andrew Heaney, Dylan Bundy, Griffin Canning and potentially Shohei Ohtani, slotting in somewhere near the top.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 20, 2021 at 08:35 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Nasty Nate Posted: January 20, 2021 at 09:24 AM (#6000760)
When he moves to Hollywood, he'll have to go door to door...
   2. Brian C Posted: January 20, 2021 at 10:18 AM (#6000771)
And so officially ends a chapter of Cubs history that went slightly better than most people will remember it, but still was nevertheless a disappointment.
   3. JRVJ Posted: January 20, 2021 at 10:22 AM (#6000772)
Seems to be a good signing for the Angels.
   4. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: January 20, 2021 at 11:58 AM (#6000785)
I assume he's already scheduling his appointment for Tommy John surgery.
   5. Zonk is now Unified Posted: January 20, 2021 at 11:59 AM (#6000786)
Seems to be a good signing for the Angels.


Seems like a great signing to me... 1/8?
   6. JRVJ Posted: January 20, 2021 at 12:20 PM (#6000789)
5, there's some risk in Quintana's performance, which is why it's only good to me. But I won't argue with you if you think it's a great signing.
   7. McCoy Posted: January 20, 2021 at 01:47 PM (#6000801)
Most people forgot that the Cubs won the World Series?
   8. SoSH U at work Posted: January 20, 2021 at 01:55 PM (#6000805)
Most people forgot that the Cubs won the World Series?


They didn't win it in the Quintana Era, as the trade deadline 2017 to short-season 2020 period will always be known in Cubs lore.
   9. Zonk is now Unified Posted: January 20, 2021 at 02:09 PM (#6000809)
5, there's some risk in Quintana's performance, which is why it's only good to me. But I won't argue with you if you think it's a great signing.


Meh, there's risk in ANY pitcher's performance... and I think Quintana would rightly be called a bit of a disappointment - he didn't really hold serve after crossing town, he fell back a bit... but he's still as good a bet as any to take his turn and give you 180 solid to solid+ innings. There might be a few warning signs - the K rate is down and the walks are up, and the FIP has followed suit.

But I guess I just still see "1/8" and think yeesh... that's a prove it deal for a guy coming back after missing a season or a flier on a 38 yo clearly nearing the end.

That said, it's possible I'm just not adjusting to the new economic reality... and maybe even the new Quintana reality. IDK. If I'm an Angels fan, I'd be pretty happy with this.

EDIT: One other thing I'd note - Quintana has a fairly pronounced flyball tendency. I would think the Angels OF should help.
   10. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 20, 2021 at 04:10 PM (#6000831)
But I guess I just still see "1/8" and think yeesh... that's a prove it deal for a guy coming back after missing a season


Um...

Quintana, who previously pitched under current Angels manager Joe Maddon while with the Chicago Cubs, was limited to only 10 innings in 2020 largely because of thumb surgery.
   11. Zonk is now Unified Posted: January 20, 2021 at 04:14 PM (#6000833)
Meh, whatever... to me -- the only real 2020 season will be my OOTP one.

But Sean adamantly refuses my demands to upload my season numbers. I think it is because he hates Chris Archer.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: January 20, 2021 at 04:19 PM (#6000835)
Quality starts ... it's partly a league-wide trend (they've fallen from a recent high of 57% in 2014 to 40% the last 1+ seasons) but in his peak with the Sox, he had a QS about 70% of the time and he's fallen to league-avverage. I think that's what's created my impression of his adequate but disappointing Cubs tenure.

Anyway, at 1/$8, no argument. And given the Cubs picked up the end of his early buyout, they weren't paying much more than that in AAV either so the Cubs certainly got what they paid (salary) for.

Are we seeing more 1-year deals where pre-covid we might have expected 2 or 3-year deals for these sorts of players. I know Q is coming off the thumb surgery and Kyle Gibson is just a convvenient example but Gibson got 3/$28 just last year. It would make all the sense in the world for teams to be wary of long-term commitments to OK players while waiting for all of this to work out but it might be further deterioration in the mid-FA market.
   13. Zonk is now Unified Posted: January 20, 2021 at 04:41 PM (#6000837)
I know Q is coming off the thumb surgery...


Trust the plan.

Sorry, sorry... it really had to be done... and I purposely avoided setting myself up because it needed to be organic!
   14. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: January 20, 2021 at 06:14 PM (#6000851)
1/$8 for Quintana is a great deal for either a team that's not looking to contend and needs major league arms for their rotation or a contending team with three nice starters looking for an innings-eater to be their 4th starter.

The Angels' problem is that as long as they have Trout, they should be trying to contend, but Quintana steps in and is immediately their #2 starter. And their #1 is Dylan Bundy. I'm not holding out any hope (or even desire, really) that they sign Bauer, but maybe they sign Paxton and move everyone down a slot in the rotation. Paxton isn't exactly top of the rotation material either, but he's at least an arm who should have some quality innings in him. Either that or they trade one or more of their young outfield prospects for someone.

I like the deal as an Angels' fan, but even if it goes reasonably well, there are still too many question marks in the rotation and the lineup to expect that the addition of Quintana gets them to the postseason. And in the worst case, I envision a repeat of the Teheran experiment.
   15. JRVJ Posted: January 20, 2021 at 08:29 PM (#6000879)
14, really good post.
   16. The Honorable Ardo Posted: January 20, 2021 at 08:34 PM (#6000881)
He makes the Angels better, which is more than can be said for many FA signings.
   17. Zonk is now Unified Posted: January 20, 2021 at 09:02 PM (#6000886)
It won’t help the case for my plaudits for me to admit that I have long been a Teheran fan.... probably like 4 years longer than I should have been.
   18. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: January 20, 2021 at 09:14 PM (#6000890)
Sometime around 2013/4 I was convinced that Teheran was going to be the next Jim Palmer. He had his moments, but that didn't quite work out.
   19. Zonk is now Unified Posted: January 21, 2021 at 10:49 AM (#6000955)
Sometime around 2013/4 I was convinced that Teheran was going to be the next Jim Palmer. He had his moments, but that didn't quite work out.


Ditto... Unfortunately, as Gonfaloners will surely attest, I kept hope alive long after it was no longer fashionable to do so. It his Teheran, not Quintana, I wanted the Cubs to chase post-WS in their quest for an under-30 cost-controlled pitcher.

Of course, now that the Cubs will likely be headed towards some suck and Teheran makes a nice fit for cheap suck -- I'm much more likely to get my wish... so there's that.

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