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Wednesday, March 04, 2020

Judge, Stanton likely to miss Opening Day

Well, it looks like this is becoming an annual tradition among the Yankees:

TAMPA, Fla.—The Yankees will be without two of their most prominent sluggers to begin the season. Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton are both considered unlikely to appear in the Yankees’ Opening Day lineup, general manager Brian Cashman said on Tuesday at George M. Steinbrenner Field.

Judge is continuing to undergo a battery of tests to determine the cause of the discomfort in his right pectoral muscle, and though Cashman said that Judge has been responding well to treatment over the last 48 hours, there has been no diagnosis or set date for him to resume on-field activities. The Yankees are scheduled to open the regular season on March 26 at Baltimore.

“I don’t see him ready by Opening Day because of the time frame,” Cashman said. “It’s 3 1/2 weeks, and just then the healing and then having to have a Spring Training.”

Stanton is recovering from a Grade 1 right calf strain sustained while performing defensive drills on Feb. 25. Cashman said that he believes Stanton will be ready to play sometime in April, setting the recovery time at four to six weeks from the date of injury.

 

QLE Posted: March 04, 2020 at 12:42 AM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: aaron judge, giancarlo stanton, injuries, opening day, yankees

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   1. villageidiom Posted: March 04, 2020 at 10:11 AM (#5927936)
Jacoby Ellsbury is available.
   2. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 04, 2020 at 10:27 AM (#5927943)
Stanton is recovering from a Grade 1 right calf strain sustained while performing defensive drills on Feb. 25.
You have to think at least some teams are assessing whether the time-honored Spring Training "defensive drills" are worth the risk of injury. Do the vast majority of players get anything out of mindless drills? Seems like they may well be a vestige of the old school, like pregame batting practice.
   3. Itchy Row Posted: March 04, 2020 at 11:19 AM (#5927965)
At least they're doubling up their injuries. If there was a separate article about every Yankee who gets hurt, we would run out of electronic ink and paper.
   4. Lassus Posted: March 04, 2020 at 12:12 PM (#5928006)
"LOLMETS MEDICAL STAFF AMPUTATIONS HA HA HA"


"Poor Yankees have been hit by an unassailable injury bug. Oh the unfairness."


Seriously, fuck all y'all.

   5. jmurph Posted: March 04, 2020 at 02:23 PM (#5928097)
If I was the Yankees, I'd sure be worried about that Stanton contract. And if Judge is this injury-prone at such a young age, shouldn't they be concerned about paying him $20+ million a year soon?

(How'd I do Yankee Clapper????????)
   6. Nasty Nate Posted: March 04, 2020 at 02:32 PM (#5928103)
If I was the Yankees, I'd sure be worried about that Stanton contract. And if Judge is this injury-prone at such a young age, shouldn't they be concerned about paying him $20+ million a year soon?

(How'd I do Yankee Clapper????????)
You should have also merely asked if there would be distrust from the players because the Yankees are trying to not pay Ellsbury for his guaranteed contract.
   7. PreservedFish Posted: March 04, 2020 at 02:35 PM (#5928105)
jmuprh, Clapper elegantly distances himself from his concern trolling by using courteous and formal language. More like, "Stanton's inability to stay healthy must be seen to be worrying. And one wonders if Judge's apparent susceptibility to injury may also cause some concern."
   8. jmurph Posted: March 04, 2020 at 03:13 PM (#5928121)
Damnit guys you're right. I'll keep working on it.
   9. Howie Menckel Posted: March 04, 2020 at 04:07 PM (#5928156)
I would never cheer for any injury - not even when I have the Yankees UNDER 101.5 wins this year.

I don't have to hate them, either, I'm pretty sure.
   10. bfan Posted: March 04, 2020 at 04:37 PM (#5928169)
You have to think at least some teams are assessing whether the time-honored Spring Training "defensive drills" are worth the risk of injury. Do the vast majority of players get anything out of mindless drills? Seems like they may well be a vestige of the old school, like pregame batting practice.


Building up to more strenuous tests and stresses by lighter drills while you stretch out and condition the various muscles you need to use to play the game makes a lot of sense as the best way to get into baseball shape. Even if you merely DH (and one of these guys will have to play the OF), at some point you have to run, and these drills are designed to prevent the muscle pull and/or strain you will get when you first leave the batter's box, if you do not prepare by doing something like this.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: March 04, 2020 at 04:51 PM (#5928175)
FWIW, fangraphs have 3-year ZiPS projections and, according to those, the Stanton contract is already bad -- 2.9 then 2.4 then 1.9 WAR for 2020-22. That's still a bit above-average by rate (i.e. he's (not) projected to about 520 PA per) but it's not worth the contract and will still have 5 more years to go. By that projection, it would be about 12, maybe 15 WAR, for $243 M ($30 covered by the Marlins though).
   12. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 04, 2020 at 04:52 PM (#5928176)
Building up to more strenuous tests and stresses by lighter drills while you stretch out and condition the various muscles you need to use to play the game makes a lot of sense as the best way to get into baseball shape. Even if you merely DH (and one of these guys will have to play the OF), at some point you have to run, and these drills are designed to prevent the muscle pull and/or strain you will get when you first leave the batter's box, if you do not prepare by doing something like this.
Are the drills really designed for this function, or are they just doing the same thing over and over again to "emphasize fundamentals" etc.?
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 04, 2020 at 04:57 PM (#5928180)
And if Judge is this injury-prone at such a young age, shouldn't they be concerned about paying him $20+ million a year soon?


Why? It's just arb. They can cut bait at any point. And if he can't play more than 100 games in a season, he ain't getting $20M.

But this is why you don't extend Judge, you go year to year. Health is a skill and he gets hurt too much. Plus, late bloomer age early, as a rule.

Torres is the guy to lock up yesterday.
   14. bfan Posted: March 04, 2020 at 07:54 PM (#5928210)
Are the drills really designed for this function, or are they just doing the same thing over and over again to "emphasize fundamentals" etc.?


I am going to trust the guys who have $25 million per year invested in each of the players we are talking about to have a thoughtful approach to cultivating the value from those players, and not be mailing it in because it was done that way 30 years ago.
   15. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 04, 2020 at 08:09 PM (#5928213)
I am going to trust the guys who have $25 million per year invested in each of the players we are talking about to have a thoughtful approach to cultivating the value from those players, and not be mailing it in because it was done that way 30 years ago.

I don't think IF drills are the culprit, but I think there's a high likelihood these players work out too much. Guys like Judge and Stanton are huge and strong, they don't need to ripped too.

If turning 10 lbs of muscles into 20 lbs. of fat would keep them on the damn field, it would be well worth whatever tiny marginal decrease in power.
   16. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 04, 2020 at 08:14 PM (#5928217)
I am going to trust the guys who have $25 million per year invested in each of the players we are talking about to have a thoughtful approach to cultivating the value from those players, and not be mailing it in because it was done that way 30 years ago.
I dunno. A quick Googling shows tons of videos, from the past few years, of guys just taking routine grounders in spring training. Granted, not a major injury risk, but it does raise the question of how much thought is put into some of this stuff. Major league players don’t need to drill routine grounders, assuming they’re not learning a new position or working on a specific adjustment to footwork or something like that.
   17. PreservedFish Posted: March 04, 2020 at 08:36 PM (#5928222)
Major league players don’t need to drill routine grounders


Maybe they do? These guys just took months off and they need their muscle memory to get back to elite levels. I wouldn't take it for granted that they don't need to practice.
   18. Greg Pope Posted: March 04, 2020 at 09:54 PM (#5928232)
Maybe they do? These guys just took months off and they need their muscle memory to get back to elite levels. I wouldn't take it for granted that they don't need to practice.

I'd agree with this. Most keep themselves in shape in the offseason. Maybe weight training or crossfit or something. I'm sure they hit in cages with some regularity. But I doubt that they take ground balls very often.
   19. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 04, 2020 at 10:02 PM (#5928233)
I’m still skeptical. Probably not the best analogy, but something I do know to be true in my own life: If there is a song that I’ve played many, many times before, and I don’t play it for several months, I don’t need to practice it a bunch of times to do a good (if I do say so myself) rendition. I can just play it, because I know it well from having played it so many times over the years.
   20. PreservedFish Posted: March 04, 2020 at 10:20 PM (#5928234)
You're right, it's probably not the best analogy.

Not that I think the drills are the result of "a thoughtful approach to cultivating value," I'm sure it's 80% inertia and tradition. But they might still serve a purpose, even for the best players.

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