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1. frannyzoo Posted: October 04, 2008 at 08:03 PM (#2967894)*Which reminds me of how much I hate the "Rally Monkey". Like I said, I have no affection for the Angels whatsoever.
Well, I can think of one, anyway.
That was a sad, sad story.
Orange County is the home of the John Birch Society, that doesn't mean everybody from the OC (or 95% of Angels fans) is a closet right-wing psychopathic racist.
Turbofolk? Not sure I've ever heard any (where have I been?!). Wiki makes it sound like crappy mash-ups of Balkan music and glam-pop.
I was at a game in Anaheim against the Yankees about ten years ago, when an Angel pitcher gave up a couple of hits and a home run. A drunk Yankee fan yelled "Don't Donnie Moore yourself, #######!" and shot himself in the head with his finger. Then he high-fived his drunk Yankee fan friends. That stuck with me.
That said: Fanbases complaining about other fanbases is almost always going to turn out like Red Sox fans complaining about the Yankees' payroll advantage. People are going to ignore the complaint while wondering why you think you have the right to make it.
Hey now, we were just talking (prompted by Simms, actually) in the Lounge a while ago about my great uncle who has a "Lifetime Service" award from JBS. And he's no closet right-wing psychopath...oh, wait. Never mind.
Imagine the horror of Balkan folk music coked out of its skull and mashed up with pounding mid-'90s Euro-techno, preferably distorted out of the back speakers of some stolen Mercedes driven by a guy in a tracksuit, and you begin to get the idea.
J Mascis looks like he's 60 these days.
J Mascis looks like she's 60 these days. Dude looks seriously like my grandma, if she were still alive. But boy could he play guitar, etc.
sure does seem like a long time ago you and NTA were blogging on "who GETS to say - we're #2!!!"
and i didn't even know you had left the LA times and gone back to reason and had to move to DC. next thing u know you will realize that the DH is the tool of de debbil and you become a ex-spos fan...
But it was headquartered in a suburb of Boston until 1989...
But I am very sure that there's not been one Angels fan, ever, to reference Tony C in a bad way.
Ever.
Maybe because we traded a good reliever and Doug Griffin so we could get four home runs for him?
But as I've said before, there's no lower form of life than a Red Sox fan at a road game. Scum of the earth.
I'm embarrassed to admit I had no idea Conigliaro ever played for the Angels.
I had no idea, either. A half season 7 years before I was born, I'm not embarrassed.
On the other hand the difference between Donnie and OJ is that OJ and Donnie's wife both lived on after. That was no laughing matter to the Browns or Goldmans either and it seemed like there were no shortage of people cracking wise about that incident much sooner than any current Donnie Moore comments. So for me it's not the same thing as making fun of Lyman Bostock or even Tim Crews and Steve Olin. Moore was as much a perpetrator in his situation (if not more) as he was a victim.
So are Donnie Moore jokes in 2008 still in poor taste? Sure. Are they evidence of some sort of deep moral bankruptcy on the speaker? I'm not necessarily going to sign off on that.
Whatever.
Go ahead and be envious and bemoan that SOME of are fans are jackasses. Based on these comments, obviously Red Sox fans don't have a monopoly on that aspect. Just remember that most of us as Red Sox fans do not despise the other team (Yankees perhaps excepted for some). We simply want to win and when we do, we celebrate. If that is the definition of "bandwagon" then so be it.
Not to mention unfair to Cubs fans, Yankees fans, Mets fans, and Patriots fans. And that's just sports. The truly worst sub-species of human in the world? Libertarians. Witness, Nieporent. And Megan McArdle. These "people" should be basted with used motor oil and shot into the sun.
. I would stake my life on the Sox' fanbase being able to beat that of the Angels in any measure of baseball historical knowledge
I think you've created a new office drinking game....
Matt's right about taking the meat out of the Red Sox' bowl. It's way past time the Angels figured out that their crappy offensive strategy is all too easy to shut down in the postseason, being as it's reliant on stringing together tons and tons of singles.
Apparently you've never been to Chavez Ravine.
Btw, I've been to Angels Stadium many many times, and your description is silly.
Thanks, Chip, for once again proving that the Red Sox have by far the most douchey fanbase in professional sports.
Palermo supporters would...
Also, as for Boston fans' "knowledge", I was at a Sawx-Angels game last year and the Boston supporters behind us had never heard of Kevin Millar, "Cowboy up", "We're idiots!", etc. They were above the age of 5 by about three decades, so they don't get a free pass on that stuff.
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