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Leitch/MLB: The best moment in each ballpark’s history

Indians (Progressive Field): Rajai Davis homers ... but the Cubs win the 2016 World Series - Nov. 1, 2016 (World Series Game 7)

Indians fans will always have a soft spot in their heart for Davis, whose game-tying homer off Aroldis Chapman was the stuff of fairy tales. But for the purposes of baseball history, the most significant moment at Progressive Field is the Cubs winning that game and their first World Series in more than a century.

Royals (Kauffman Stadium): Don Denkinger’s call - Oct. 26, 1985 (World Series Game 6)

If they had clinched the 2015 World Series at home—or if Alex Gordon had been sent home and scored at the end of the 2014 Series—maybe that would be the moment here, but Denkinger’s call remains immortal.

villageidiom Posted: May 18, 2020 at 02:55 PM | 95 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Lassus Posted: May 18, 2020 at 04:17 PM (#5951778)
There has to be a better moment than Santana's no-hitter for the Citifield.
   2. SoSH U at work Posted: May 18, 2020 at 04:36 PM (#5951788)
You feel a little bad choosing this over a win that sent the Rays to the World Series, but this was the culminating moment of one of the wildest days in recent baseball history. This game also featured Dan Johnson hitting a two-out, game-tying homer in the ninth, that is arguably the top moment in the park over Longoria.


I don't think there's anything arguable about it. I couldn't tell you that it was the greatest player in Rays history who went deep to win it, but I remembered the journeyman's homer that tied it.

   3. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: May 18, 2020 at 04:38 PM (#5951789)
Reds (Great American Ball Park): Todd Frazier's Home Run Derby explosion


As fun as that was, there is no way it tops Jay Bruce hitting a leadoff HR in the bottom of the 9th to win the NL Central and clinch the Reds first division title since 1995. I mean, the Home Run Derby isn't even real baseball.
   4. Hot Wheeling American Posted: May 18, 2020 at 04:59 PM (#5951795)
There has to be a better moment than Santana's no-hitter for the Citifield.

There's not much competition, I'm afraid. Wilmer's walk-off two nights after his trade didn't go through?
   5. Itchy Row Posted: May 18, 2020 at 05:47 PM (#5951812)
A good follow-up would be to choose the best moment from parks that aren't around anymore. It could be hard to decide the best moment at the Rockford Agricultural Society Fair Grounds, but MLB does have to fill some online column inches.
   6. Sweatpants Posted: May 18, 2020 at 06:07 PM (#5951817)
A good follow-up would be to choose the best moment from parks that aren't around anymore. It could be hard to decide the best moment at the Rockford Agricultural Society Fair Grounds, but MLB does have to fill some online column inches.
Turner Field's is probably Randy Johnson's perfect game, or I guess Johnson striking out Eddie Perez (I think) to end it. For top positive moment for the Braves there, I'd go with Andruw Jones's walk-off walk.

Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium was around for only about ten years longer, but it had many more memorable moments. Aaron's 715th, Rick Camp's homer, Sid Bream's slide, and Justice's homer/Grissom's catch to end game six were all bigger than a perfect game by a visiting player.
   7. villageidiom Posted: May 18, 2020 at 06:07 PM (#5951818)
I included the Jacobs Field item in the intro because I thought it didn't make sense at first. Surely the best moment there would be an Indians highlight, right? No, it makes sense because it's not the best moment for the home team, and the Cubs ending their drought is soundly the best moment.

So, then... David Freese's triple, instead of Boston ending their drought? Albert Pujols hitting a HR, instead of the White Sox ending their drought? Oh, wait... It's Will Leitch. I guess the Cardinals didn't do anything memorable enough in Cleveland.
   8. villageidiom Posted: May 18, 2020 at 06:15 PM (#5951821)
I was at Fenway for The Steal, but thinking about it right now I think the best moment at Fenway was the last ring they gave out during the ceremony at the home opener in 2005. They set it up perfectly: they handed out the rings in ascending order of tenure with the team. Consequently, Curt Schilling was one of the first few. Derek Lowe - now a Dodger, but returning to Fenway on an off-day to be part of the ceremony - was somewhere in the middle. All great, all fun, and you got long-time players and coaches toward the end. But the last guy... Johnny Pesky. Damn, that was perfect.

It does seem like he stuck with game-play moments in general, and that's fair. The Steal is hard to top.
   9. greenback used to say live and let live Posted: May 18, 2020 at 06:21 PM (#5951826)
So, then... David Freese's triple, instead of Boston ending their drought?

Boston didn't end their drought in the current Busch Stadium.
   10. ajnrules Posted: May 18, 2020 at 06:49 PM (#5951831)
Globe Life Park has a few good candidates, including Kenny Rogers's perfect game, Adrian Beltre's 3,000th hit, Rafael Palmeiro's 500th home run, Sammy Sosa's 600th home run...but I think any Rangers fan would definitely have to go with Neftali Feliz striking out A-Rod in Game 6 of the 2010 ALCS.

Not a lot of good history in RFK Stadium. It's either going to be the riot in the last game in Senators history, or Ryan Zimmerman's walk-off against Chien-Ming Wang on June 18, 2006.

I'm still partial to Randy Johnson's 300th win as the best moment in Nationals Park history, but I'm just biased since it's the best moment I've ever witnessed.
   11. vortex of dissipation Posted: May 18, 2020 at 07:06 PM (#5951835)
As fun as that was, there is no way it tops Jay Bruce hitting a leadoff HR in the bottom of the 9th to win the NL Central and clinch the Reds first division title since 1995. I mean, the Home Run Derby isn't even real baseball.


I totally agree. I read the article just to see if that was the pick for GABP, and was shocked when it wasn't the choice.
   12. Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: May 18, 2020 at 07:16 PM (#5951836)
The Steal is hard to top.


I think Fisk's HR was bigger than the steal, even though they lost the next game.

You could go with game 6 in 2013.
   13. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: May 18, 2020 at 07:16 PM (#5951837)
7 - Yeah the ring ceremony has always held a place for me. The steal was great but it’s greatness was more retrospective. It was big at the time but the Sox were still losing the game and even after winning the game it was highly unlikely the Sox were coming back.

Realistically Fenway’s is probably Gardner’s walk off sac fly in 1912 but if you want something we can remember it’s Petrocelli catching the pop up in ‘67.
   14. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: May 18, 2020 at 07:18 PM (#5951839)
A good follow-up would be to choose the best moment from parks that aren't around anymore.

Worcester Agricultural Fairgrounds: Lee Richmond's perfect game.
   15. AndrewJ Posted: May 18, 2020 at 07:27 PM (#5951842)
Veterans Stadium: Game 6 of the 1980 Series. Either the Boone/Rose pop foul catch or Tug striking out Willie Wilson

Three Rivers Stadium: Clemente's 3000th hit

Riverfront Stadium: Aaron's 714th? Moose's wild pitch ending the 1972 NLCS?

(Curious that the '71 and '79 Pirates, and '75-'76 and '90 Reds all clinched their World Series on the road.)

   16. Jay Seaver Posted: May 18, 2020 at 07:28 PM (#5951843)
Red Sox (Fenway Park): Dave Roberts' steal
Oct. 17, 2004 (Game 4 of ALCS)

No offense to Ted Williams, Yaz and Bullpen Cop,


Disrespecting Carlton Fisk here, especially since I'm not sure which particular moment with Yaz is meant to be invoked here (I'm guessing Williams is the homer in his last game).

(Coke to #12)
   17. SoSH U at work Posted: May 18, 2020 at 08:20 PM (#5951856)
(I'm guessing Williams is the homer in his last game).


Or the '99 All-Star game.
   18. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: May 18, 2020 at 10:14 PM (#5951881)
I'm not sure which particular moment with Yaz is meant to be invoked here (I'm guessing Williams is the homer in his last game).
Semi-similarly, I assume this meant Yaz's last game and his lap around the field. It was a pretty big deal at the time.

I was too young to remember Fisk's homer, but I think that's a better choice than "The Steal" for the reasons Jose mentioned. Hell I think Ortiz's homer ("bullpen cop") was bigger.
   19. Lowry Seasoning Salt Posted: May 18, 2020 at 10:28 PM (#5951887)
If the list were confined to MLB action, I'd consider changing the best moment at Petco Park to Bartolo Colon's home run there. So much joy on display.

Video
   20. flournoy Posted: May 18, 2020 at 10:42 PM (#5951889)
Maybe it's just that most of the stadiums are so new and I haven't been paying that much attention lately, but this list seems thoroughly underwhelming.
   21. greenback used to say live and let live Posted: May 18, 2020 at 11:24 PM (#5951894)
Maybe it's just that most of the stadiums are so new and I haven't been paying that much attention lately, but this list seems thoroughly underwhelming.

Yeah, a lot of 10-20 year-old stadiums in a 30-team league will do that for you.

I think the list of worst moments kinda drives the same point home.
   22. baudib Posted: May 18, 2020 at 11:30 PM (#5951895)
Fisk's homer is so much bigger a moment than Roberts' steal as to be laughable.

   23. never forget: the pee tape is 57i66135 Posted: May 18, 2020 at 11:44 PM (#5951897)
Orioles (Camden Yards): Cal Ripken breaks Lou Gehrig's consecutive games record

agree to disagree.
   24. never forget: the pee tape is 57i66135 Posted: May 18, 2020 at 11:44 PM (#5951898)
also, how in the #### did deadspin's will leitch wind up working at mlb.com?
   25. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 18, 2020 at 11:48 PM (#5951899)
SkyDome is obvious (Joe Carter), but Exhibition Stadium is probably clinching the 1985 AL East title against the Yankees (October 5th).

An even more challenging task would be to find the best moment by a team in every OTHER team's stadium...

For the Blue Jays, most of their big playoff away game moments are in parks that no longer exist (Veterans Stadium, Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium, Globe Life Park in Arlington, ), but Roberto Alomar's home run off Eckersley happened in Oakland Coliseum (and is the #2 or #3 biggest Blue Jays moment of all time), and Comisky Park II/Guaranteed Rate Field saw the Jays win 3 games there in the 1993 ALCS.

   26. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 18, 2020 at 11:57 PM (#5951900)
If you show the Fisk clip to the average person, they know it.

If you show The Steal, they'd be like, "what is that?"

Maybe I'm thinking too much of the pop culture thread.
   27. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: May 19, 2020 at 02:01 AM (#5951907)
Globe Life Park has a few good candidates

For Arlington Stadium, I can't pick between Nolan's 5000th strikeout or 7th no-hitter. The strikeout had the inevitability of it plus the fact that it was Rickey! who was the victim. The no-hitter had the air of surprise -- even for Ryan -- in front of a packed house on Arlington Appreciation Night where one of the local grocery store chains was either giving away tickets or selling them at a steep discount, so the park was even more packed than it usually was for a Ryan start.
   28. flournoy Posted: May 19, 2020 at 04:33 AM (#5951911)
If you show the Fisk clip to the average person, they know it.


I doubt that. It happened 45 years ago.

Now, I've no doubt it would be more recognized than the Dave Roberts one. I don't think I've ever even seen video of that.
   29. KronicFatigue Posted: May 19, 2020 at 07:07 AM (#5951918)
The Fisk clip was a plot(ish) point in Good Will Hunting which was 23 years ago, but still a popular film. It's a go-to highlight for any kind of baseball montage that FOX and the like put together before the WS.

I lean towards people recognizing it.
   30. Greg K Posted: May 19, 2020 at 07:39 AM (#5951919)
Having a walk off home run to win the World Series kind of makes the Blue Jays pick easy.

But everything from Russell Martin throwing the ball off Choo's bat to Bautista's home run has a certain case to make.
   31. Greg K Posted: May 19, 2020 at 07:41 AM (#5951920)
The Fisk home run and the Roberts stolen base are both featured in films. In fact, the first time I saw the Roberts SB was in a movie theatre. I had been listening to the game so I never realized how close the play was.
   32. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: May 19, 2020 at 07:55 AM (#5951922)
I had never even heard of Adam Jones' catch in the WBC before this list. Is that really the best Petco can do? I'm sure there's an actual Padres moment worth remembering, but I would take Bartolo Colon's homer over a catch in the WBC.
   33. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 19, 2020 at 10:07 AM (#5951950)

Orioles (Camden Yards): Cal Ripken breaks Lou Gehrig's consecutive games record



agree to disagree.

Except that the Maier game was at Yankee Stadium, not Camden Yards.
   34. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 19, 2020 at 10:15 AM (#5951953)
Having a walk off home run to win the World Series kind of makes the Blue Jays pick easy.

But everything from Russell Martin throwing the ball off Choo's bat to Bautista's home run has a certain case to make.


Given that Bautista's home run decided a win-or-go home game, I'd go with Joey Bats, especially with the added flair of the bat flip. Not to take away anything from Carter's home run, but if the Jays had lost that game 6 there was a game 7 the next night.

But Fisk vs The Steal is a no-brainer. The steal set up the tying run, but the Fisk home run decided one of the more thrilling games in World Series history, and the video of Fisk waving the ball fair is probably Fenway's most iconic moment.
   35. Itchy Row Posted: May 19, 2020 at 10:37 AM (#5951962)
The best moment in Petco's history was the time somebody from the Mariners hit a batting practice shot that bounced off the building in left field and hit a guy in the ass. He let out a loud yelp. The ball rolled to me and I tossed it back to the guy. He gave it to his kid, and I like to think that saved their relationship. That didn't involve the Padres either.
   36. SoSH U at work Posted: May 19, 2020 at 11:11 AM (#5951975)
Given that Bautista's home run decided a win-or-go home game, I'd go with Joey Bats, especially with the added flair of the bat flip. Not to take away anything from Carter's home run, but if the Jays had lost that game 6 there was a game 7 the next night.


That's insane. The Bautista homer was in the seventh inning of a division series, and the Jays would go on to lose in the next round.

Carter's homer was the only time in Series history where a team won the World Series on a walkoff homer that took the winning team from trailing to winning. And Carter's leaping jaunt around the bases was every bit as memorable as that damn bat flip.


   37. Astroenteritis Posted: May 19, 2020 at 12:20 PM (#5951991)
It's true that the Pujols homer was the first thing I thought of for Minute Maid. It was...uh...dramatic, in a way that took a few years off my life.
From the home team perspective, I'd put Altuve's pennant winning homer vs. the Yanks first, but Burke's 18th inning winner against the Braves would be in the top five.
   38. Stevey Posted: May 19, 2020 at 12:50 PM (#5951998)
also, how in the #### did deadspin's will leitch wind up working at mlb.com?



Let me quote some Dylan - "I used to care, but things have changed".
   39. base ball chick Posted: May 19, 2020 at 01:41 PM (#5952010)
pujols silencing an entire stadium is most certainly NOT the "best" moment - might could be the most memorable one, but i would say that the best moment is burke's homah. or ausmus' homah to tie up the game in the 9th inning (of the 05 NLDS)

actually, the best moment i can't find on video - it was after burke's homah and all the reporters were crowding around clemens, who pitched the last 3 innings in relief, and they are all asking him how does he feel about HIS win and he pulls burke forward and sez - how about this kid!
   40. Perry Posted: May 19, 2020 at 03:04 PM (#5952046)
also, how in the #### did deadspin's will leitch wind up working at mlb.com?


He freelances all over the place. mlb.com, New York magazine, Vulture, others. I subscribe to his newsletter, he has like 5-6 pubs a week in various places.
   41. Karl from NY Posted: May 19, 2020 at 03:21 PM (#5952052)
There's not much competition, I'm afraid.

Yeah, that's exactly it. The Mets have two playoff series wins in the Citifield era (both in 2015), and both were won on the road, and none of the home wins had any real big swings. So Santana's no-hitter is probably it.
   42. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 19, 2020 at 03:24 PM (#5952055)
Given that Bautista's home run decided a win-or-go home game, I'd go with Joey Bats, especially with the added flair of the bat flip. Not to take away anything from Carter's home run, but if the Jays had lost that game 6 there was a game 7 the next night.

That's insane. The Bautista homer was in the seventh inning of a division series, and the Jays would go on to lose in the next round.

Carter's homer was the only time in Series history where a team won the World Series on a walkoff homer that took the winning team from trailing to winning. And Carter's leaping jaunt around the bases was every bit as memorable as that damn bat flip.


If you want to argue the overriding factor of WS vs DS, I'll accept the point. But the atmosphere of that mere Division Series finale at the point of the bat flip home run was as dramatic a moment as I've ever seen, and I've seen both of those home runs replayed many times. But YMMV.
   43. Stevey Posted: May 19, 2020 at 03:31 PM (#5952058)


He freelances all over the place. mlb.com, New York magazine, Vulture, others. I subscribe to his newsletter, he has like 5-6 pubs a week in various places.


I believe Stiggles' point to be why would Leitch be writing for MLB.com. New York mag and Vulture make sense as a transition for a former Deadspin writer.

Going from a place which described itself as "Sports News without Access, Favor, or Discretion" to basically the PR firm of a 10B franchise, not such much sense.
   44. SoSH U at work Posted: May 19, 2020 at 03:32 PM (#5952060)
If you want to argue the overriding factor of WS vs DS, I'll accept the point.


It's not just the WS vs. DS, it's the seventh inning vs. walkoff.

As for replays, I'll bet MLB and various media outlets will be showing Carter's leaping run around the bases long after Jose's historic bat flip has been sidelined. Hell, I suspect you're more likely to see Carter's clip than Bautista's right now.

I'm sticking with insane.

   45. . Posted: May 19, 2020 at 04:56 PM (#5952102)
But everything from Russell Martin throwing the ball off Choo's bat


Throwing lanes!!
   46. . Posted: May 19, 2020 at 04:58 PM (#5952105)
But the atmosphere of that mere Division Series finale at the point of the bat flip home run was as dramatic a moment as I've ever seen, and I've seen both of those home runs replayed many times.


As opposed to the atmosphere when the Jays won the World Series on a walkoff homer in the bottom of the 9th, while trailing?

JFC.

   47. Perry Posted: May 19, 2020 at 05:04 PM (#5952107)
I believe Stiggles' point to be why would Leitch be writing for MLB.com. New York mag and Vulture make sense as a transition for a former Deadspin writer.


Ah, yeah, I get it. You know, he's nearly 40 now, 2 kids, lives in Athens GA... gotta pay the bills, I guess. Deadspin was part of who he was, the other part was the midwestern kid from Mattoon.
   48. Astroenteritis Posted: May 19, 2020 at 07:08 PM (#5952131)
ausmus' homah to tie up the game in the 9th inning (of the 05 NLDS)


I can honestly say I've never been so pleasantly shocked by an at bat as the Ausmus HR. It was other worldly.
   49. asinwreck Posted: May 19, 2020 at 07:28 PM (#5952137)
Gonna go with Geoff Blum's HR in Game 3 of the 2005 World Series as Minute Maid's finest moment.
   50. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: May 19, 2020 at 08:35 PM (#5952153)
Is that really the best Petco can do? I'm sure there's an actual Padres moment worth remembering

Maybe this?
   51. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 19, 2020 at 08:49 PM (#5952161)
Rays (Tropicana Field): Evan Longoria’s walk-off homer in Game 162
Sept. 28, 2011

You feel a little bad choosing this over a win that sent the Rays to the World Series, but this was the culminating moment of one of the wildest days in recent baseball history. This game also featured Dan Johnson hitting a two-out, game-tying homer in the ninth, that is arguably the top moment in the park over Longoria.


This is absolutely the correct call. And it sparked a meme that had spanned 2 different websites.
   52. SoSH U at work Posted: May 19, 2020 at 09:53 PM (#5952171)
And it sparked a meme that had spanned 2 different websites.


What meme is that?

   53. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 19, 2020 at 10:13 PM (#5952174)
"It's over. It's always been over."
   54. SoSH U at work Posted: May 19, 2020 at 11:36 PM (#5952186)

"It's over. It's always been over."


Oh that. I thought you were referring specifically to the Longoria homer, which I think was the lesser moment compared with Johnson's two-out homer in the ninth to tie it.

   55. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 19, 2020 at 11:44 PM (#5952188)
Oh that. I thought you were referring specifically to the Longoria homer, which I think was the lesser moment compared with Johnson's two-out homer in the ninth to tie it.


The Johnson homer was indeed epic. But for BTF purposes at least, the Longoria homer will live on as the ultimate pwn of one of our most smug and self assured members.
   56. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 19, 2020 at 11:48 PM (#5952190)
And beyond the meta, which homer is more rememberable: the one that wins you a do or die game, or the more improbable one which gives the other guy a chance to win the do or die game? Would you pick Bernie Carbo over Carlton Fisk?
   57. SoSH U at work Posted: May 20, 2020 at 12:08 AM (#5952192)
And beyond the meta, which homer is more rememberable: the one that wins you a do or die game, or the more improbable one which gives the other guy a chance to win the do or die game? Would you pick Bernie Carbo over Carlton Fisk?


I can only speak for myself, but I couldn't recall who hit the 12th-inning homer, but I sure as hell remembered the much more anonymous player who homered to tie it.

To me, the Johnson homer was similar to how the eighth inning of Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS was bigger and more memorable than the Boone homer. Both the Longoria homer and the Boone homer seemed a little like afterthoughts (and more than a bit inevitable) after the improbable rallies to tie, though I suppose it's possible my rooting interests in all of these games has colored my impressions.

   58. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 20, 2020 at 12:20 AM (#5952194)
Well, that's an odd take, but I'll respect it.
   59. never forget: the pee tape is 57i66135 Posted: May 20, 2020 at 01:01 AM (#5952196)
I believe Stiggles' point to be why would Leitch be writing for MLB.com. New York mag and Vulture make sense as a transition for a former Deadspin writer.

Going from a place which described itself as "Sports News without Access, Favor, or Discretion" to basically the PR firm of a 10B franchise, not such much sense.
it's not even that i don't understand it; it's just kind of an odd fit all around. that he would write for mlb.com, but also that mlb.com would accept his byline.
   60. BrianBrianson Posted: May 20, 2020 at 02:22 AM (#5952202)
I wouldn't fault anyone for taking the Bautista homer over the Carter one, though I suspect the latter is more of a "will live forever" moment and there's a bit of recentism bias on the former. But the buildup to Bautista was stronger, and Carter's homer might've been less memorable than Winfield's double because it was the second go-round in as many years.

Dunno.
   61. Astroenteritis Posted: May 20, 2020 at 10:54 AM (#5952255)
Gonna go with Geoff Blum's HR in Game 3 of the 2005 World Series as Minute Maid's finest moment.


Hey, I was at that game. Did NOT enjoy. Blum, who's part of the Astros TV crew now, still hears about it from the fans.
   62. Zach Posted: May 20, 2020 at 02:18 PM (#5952327)
For the Royals, I'd say Salvy's hit down the line in the 2014 Wild Card game.

I remember that game much better than Game 7 of the World Series that year, or winning it all the next year.

The thing about the Royals is that they were horrible for 30 years. Getting to the postseason and winning a game was the emotional payoff.
   63. Zach Posted: May 20, 2020 at 02:33 PM (#5952333)
I was there for the Rockies' Game 163 / Matt Holliday sliding, and I was going to nominate it if it wasn't the pick.

Just an absolute classic game, classic finish, and an electric atmosphere. LoDo was wired that whole night.

The other great thing is that it wasn't that tough a ticket to get, so all of my grad school buddies were in one part of the stadium or another.
   64. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: May 20, 2020 at 02:36 PM (#5952334)
Riverfront Stadium: Aaron's 714th?


Rose's 4192
   65. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 20, 2020 at 02:45 PM (#5952339)
To me, the Johnson homer was similar to how the eighth inning of Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS was bigger and more memorable than the Boone homer. Both the Longoria homer and the Boone homer seemed a little like afterthoughts (and more than a bit inevitable) after the improbable rallies to tie, though I suppose it's possible my rooting interests in all of these games has colored my impressions.


I don't think either the Johnson homer or the Grady Little antics would be nearly as memorable if the Rays and Yanks hadn't eventually won those games. Kind of like how the Endy Chavez catch would be the greatest moment in modern Mets history if they had won that game.
   66. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 20, 2020 at 02:47 PM (#5952340)
it's not even that i don't understand it; it's just kind of an odd fit all around. that he would write for mlb.com, but also that mlb.com would accept his byline.


People need to work. Writers these days will write for anyone who can pay.
   67. Karl from NY Posted: May 20, 2020 at 03:01 PM (#5952352)
Kind of like how the Endy Chavez catch would be the greatest moment in modern Mets history if they had won that game.

Well, depends on how the Mets would win. If they scored early, yeah. If it went down to that infamous curveball but Beltran hit it, it'd be that moment first and Endy second.

(Whole thing isn't relevant for the ballpark question of Citifield, since that game was at Shea. The article didn't cover defunct ballparks, though of course Shea's moment is Buckner.)

The biggest thing in Citifield-era Mets history isn't quite a moment, it's Daniel Murphy's 6-game HR streak in the 2015 playoffs, though only the first, third, and fourth games of that were at home, the first was a loss, and each of these HR were in early innings and not particularly decisive.
   68. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: May 20, 2020 at 03:23 PM (#5952370)
I guess you have to go with Lidge's K to finish off the WS in 2008 and to cap his perfect save season, but it might not make the top 3 plays of the last part of the game.

Remember that this game was delayed 2 days after the top of the 6th. It was the most nerve wracking two days that I ever spent.

Once play resumed, the carcass of Geoff Jenkins led off the inning with a double and scored, putting the Phils up by 1. This was Jenkins' last MLB plate appearance.

In the top of the 7th, after the Rays had tied the game with a solo HR, there were two outs, Bartlett at 2B and Iwamura grounds a ball up the middle. Chase Utley then makes a play that has 1/100th of the fame of Jeter's relay, fakes a throw to first then flips the ball home to catch the hustling Bartlett at the plate. Game still tied.

Then in the bottom of the 7th, Pat "0 for 11 in the WS", leads off with a 2B, and his pinch runner scores the winning run. This was Burrell's last PA as a Phil.


   69. RoyalFlush Posted: May 20, 2020 at 03:57 PM (#5952418)
For the Royals, I'd say Salvy's hit down the line in the 2014 Wild Card game.

I remember that game much better than Game 7 of the World Series that year, or winning it all the next year.

The thing about the Royals is that they were horrible for 30 years. Getting to the postseason and winning a game was the emotional payoff.


I'd put the three following up there with Denkinger's call. Tough call

1) Salvy's Hit,
2) Gordon's 9th inning WS Game 1 HR in '15
3) Brett's 4th hit on Aug 17, 1980 - went 4-4, and the last one sent him over .400. There's a relatively iconic picture of him on 2nd base after that hit.

   70. SoSH U at work Posted: May 20, 2020 at 04:38 PM (#5952446)
I don't think either the Johnson homer or the Grady Little antics would be nearly as memorable if the Rays and Yanks hadn't eventually won those games. Kind of like how the Endy Chavez catch would be the greatest moment in modern Mets history if they had won that game.


True, but that doesn't mean the earlier moment can't be larger. While the steal isn't on par with Fisk's homer as far as Fenway moments, it's still more of a moment than Ortiz's homer in the 12th of the same game.
   71. Itchy Row Posted: May 20, 2020 at 05:34 PM (#5952467)
The Comiskey one was the earlier moment (Konerko's 7th inning grand slam that turned a 4-2 Astros lead into a 6-4 Sox lead) instead of Podsednik's walk-off.
   72. Walt Davis Posted: May 20, 2020 at 06:39 PM (#5952495)
Speaking of the 2015 Royals, isn't the most memorable moment in Citi history Hosmer's dash for home? Not one Mets' fans want to think about but if any team is going to have a self-immolative best moment, surely it should be the Mets.

Somebody suggested teams' best moments in other parks. (Sensibly limit that probably just to best road moments, mostly limited to their own league.) For the Cubs, a few that spring to mind are Monday saving the flag in LA, Holtzman's no-hitter in Cincy, clinching the 84 NLE in Pitt. The latter two stadiums are gone now. Obviously G7 in Cleveland but there's not much AL competition for Cubs' honors. I suppose we must have done something interesting in Houston once.

Not much else springs to mind. There's Brant Brown's "OH NO!" moment in Milw but we'd rather not think about that. Not a lot of fond memories in St L but rolling past them in the 2015 playoffs was nice so maybe G2 of that series. There's certainly a road trip to San Diego I would like to forget and the black cat at Shea. It seems I should have some solid memory attached to the Cubs in San Fran but nothing springs to mind.
   73. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 20, 2020 at 08:28 PM (#5952521)
In terms of best road games, it's not hard to think of one for the Yankees.
   74. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 20, 2020 at 08:43 PM (#5952528)
Not much else springs to mind.


There are 4 ways to reach base without making contact with the ball, and in the 5th inning of game 5 of the 2017 NLDS in Washington, the Cubs did all 4 on consecutive batters: Heyward walked. Baez reached on a dropped 3rd strike. LaStella reached on catcher's interference. Jon Jay was hit by a pitch. In the process, the Cubs turned a 4-3 deficit into a 7-4 lead and won the series.
   75. Mefisto Posted: May 20, 2020 at 09:24 PM (#5952537)
Somebody suggested teams' best moments in other parks. (Sensibly limit that probably just to best road moments, mostly limited to their own league.) For the Cubs, a few that spring to mind are Monday saving the flag in LA, Holtzman's no-hitter in Cincy, clinching the 84 NLE in Pitt. The latter two stadiums are gone now.


Seems like the Merkel game should be in there. For a home game, Hartnett's homer probably ranks.

The Polo Grounds is easy for home games: Bobby Thomson.
   76. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 20, 2020 at 10:52 PM (#5952550)
Actually for the Cubs' greatest Wrigley moment, as opposed to Babe Ruth's, I can't see any that beat The Homer in the Gloamin'.
   77. Howie Menckel Posted: May 21, 2020 at 12:28 AM (#5952555)
So Santana's no-hitter is probably it.

this is the one where Santana allowed a double (to Beltran, of all people).

no-hitter, my arse.

I used to work with a Franco-American whose father as a US officer led a liberation of their village in WW II. he visited each year on vacation as they celebrated.

one World Cup year Henry, playing for France, committed two handball fouls ignored by the referees as he "scored" the winning goal to eliminate underdog Ireland.

the French parliament felt shamed. my colleague respected my outrage and promised not to watch a single match. the disgraced Frenchmen bowed out quickly and meekly.

if only Santana no-hitter claimers - if there are any out there - would do the same.

France didn't legit qualify for the World Cup, and no Mets pitcher has ever thrown a no-hitter. you can say Santana was "credited" with one, but he allowed a double.

(but that Tiger P did throw a perfect game, which ended when the 1B mitt clasped the ball before the last runner reached the base. no need to wait for an inept ump call, once the game already was over).

   78. Mefisto Posted: May 21, 2020 at 12:04 PM (#5952633)
You owe me a Coke, Jolly.
   79. SoSH U at work Posted: May 21, 2020 at 12:11 PM (#5952636)

The Comiskey one was the earlier moment (Konerko's 7th inning grand slam that turned a 4-2 Astros lead into a 6-4 Sox lead) instead of Podsednik's walk-off.


Obviously, the first WS title in 88 years is going to be tough to top, but given how thoroughly the Sox dominated those playoffs, it's hard to pick a single moment from that postseason. With that, I think Wise's catch and Thome's massive homer for the only run in the one-game playoff are legit contenders.

   80. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 21, 2020 at 12:22 PM (#5952639)
Obviously, the first WS title in 88 years is going to be tough to top, but given how thoroughly the Sox dominated those playoffs, it's hard to pick a single moment from that postseason.


The Eddings dropped 3rd strike call. Maybe the Sox win the game and the series anyway, but at the time it didn't seem so. They lost game 1, and were tied in the bottom of the 9th, 2 out, none on in game 2. That call, followed by THE STEAL and then Crede's walk off double was the turning point. The Sox then dominated the next 3 games.
   81. JJ1986 Posted: May 21, 2020 at 12:38 PM (#5952646)
if only Santana no-hitter claimers - if there are any out there
That's some bullshit to make the vast majority of fans sound like a minuscule group.
   82. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 21, 2020 at 01:50 PM (#5952681)
The Eddings dropped 3rd strike call. Maybe the Sox win the game and the series anyway, but at the time it didn't seem so. They lost game 1, and were tied in the bottom of the 9th, 2 out, none on in game 2. That call, followed by THE STEAL and then Crede's walk off double was the turning point. The Sox then dominated the next 3 games.

The way that Eddings play triggered a complete turnaround of that Sox postseason was kind of like the way the Gibson HR turned around the 1988 World Series. The A's were heavy favorites and until the 9th inning comeback I'm sure a lot of fans were expecting an A's sweep.
   83. Adam Starblind Posted: May 21, 2020 at 02:40 PM (#5952702)
of course Shea's moment is Buckner


No question on that one, but Grand Slam Single would be #1 in a lot of parks.
   84. Tom Riddle Posted: May 22, 2020 at 10:59 AM (#5952890)
The way that Eddings play triggered a complete turnaround of that Sox postseason was kind of like the way the Gibson HR turned around the 1988 World Series. The A's were heavy favorites and until the 9th inning comeback I'm sure a lot of fans were expecting an A's sweep.


a turnaround from a first-round sweep (with a wonderful trifecta of a blowout win, comeback win, and shutting-down-a-comeback win), a one-run loss in a first game, and a tie in the second game? even the first game was a near CG so that aspect held up through the whole series. maybe there was a feeling, but that seems like an overstatement.

great times
   85. jingoist Posted: May 22, 2020 at 03:49 PM (#5952999)
Favorite RFK moment: late 70’s or early eighties old timers game. Warren Spahn serves up a fat one that Luke, old aches and pains, Appling hits out of the park. Granted the left field wall was pulled in but it was a good 275 to 300 foot shot.
Favorite Forbes Field : has to be Maz’s walk-off HR bottom of the 9th game 7, 1960 WS
   86. cardsfanboy Posted: May 22, 2020 at 05:23 PM (#5953018)
It's true that the Pujols homer was the first thing I thought of for Minute Maid. It was...uh...dramatic, in a way that took a few years off my life.


I don't think there are any witness's of that event who will ever forget it.... but I still don't see any legitimate argument to make about a best moment in which the home team isn't the one making the moment.... We are talking about live events, not tv events, and the power of the crowd is majesty. Any walk off hit that the Astros have ever had at that stadium beats the Pujols moment as best moment in the stadium history... if you can't imagine yourself in the crowd enjoying it with the rest of the fans, feeding off their energy, then it's absolutely not a best moment in the stadium history. Period.

To make this list the way Leitch is arguing it, would have to be a caveat "best moment in a stadium history to watch on tv." or something like that.
   87. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 22, 2020 at 11:08 PM (#5953058)
but I still don't see any legitimate argument to make about a best moment in which the home team isn't the one making the moment.


I agree. The best moment in Wrigley is Babe Ruth (figuratively) giving the middle finger to the home town fans? C'mon now.
   88. SoSH U at work Posted: May 22, 2020 at 11:14 PM (#5953059)
I agree.


Same here.
   89. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 23, 2020 at 12:00 AM (#5953065)
For me, the best Wrigley moment is probably Sandberg's second game tying homer off of Bruce Sutter to the chants of "MVP! MVP!" A close second would be Kerry Wood's game tying HR in game 7 of the 2003 NLCS.
   90. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 23, 2020 at 06:32 AM (#5953077)
For me, the best Wrigley moment is probably Sandberg's second game tying homer off of Bruce Sutter to the chants of "MVP! MVP!" A close second would be Kerry Wood's game tying HR in game 7 of the 2003 NLCS.

Those are good choices, but the unspoken assumption is that these moments have to have been within the living memory of the people making them.

Which is fair enough.
(Emphasis added.) But without that premise, there's no ####### way any pro-Cubs Wrigley moment beats Gabby Hartnett's Homer in the Gloamin', which capped a late season stretch that began with the Cubs 7 games behind the Pirates in the first week of September, and put them in first place for good, just moments before the game was about to be called because of darkness. Choosing a July game or an April game over that is like saying Barack Obama's speech at the 2004 Democratic convention was more memorable than the Gettysburg Address.
   91. JJ1986 Posted: May 23, 2020 at 08:00 AM (#5953081)
Gabby Hartnett's Homer in the Gloamin'
You're the only poster here who remembers seeing that live.
   92. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 23, 2020 at 02:59 PM (#5953139)
I wish. I don't even remember the Thomson home run. But that doesn't mean it's not the greatest moment in Polo Grounds history, and the fact that nobody here was around at the time of the Hartnett homer doesn't mean that it wasn't easily the best Cubs moment in the history of Wrigley.
   93. Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: May 23, 2020 at 05:02 PM (#5953145)
of course Shea's moment is Buckner


No question on that one,


Mets fans are weird. The last out of 1969?
   94. Adam Starblind Posted: May 23, 2020 at 11:29 PM (#5953184)
[93] joyous of course, but not a dramatic moment. All of these seem to have that in common.
   95. John Northey Posted: May 25, 2020 at 01:15 PM (#5953355)
Impossible to argue the Carter home run for the Jays - you don't get much bigger than that, unless you do it in a game 7 I guess. For the old park (Exhibition Stadium) I suspect most of us would agree on 1985's clinching of the AL East - it seemed so impossible at the time to beat the dreaded Yankees who had Henderson leading off and Mattingly in his prime batting 3rd. But the Jays did it, after blowing the game before. For the Expos it would be the sad moment of Monday's home run in the 1981 NLCS (for the non-Canadians reading this).

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