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Let’s build a roster using the sons of ex-players

Families have bonded over baseball since it became our national pastime. Whether it’s early childhood hitting lessons in the backyard, a trip to the ballpark imprinting a permanent love for the sport or the nightly experience of watching a game together, baseball creates memories that can last a lifetime.

From Ken Griffey Sr. and Jr. to Bobby and Barry Bonds, multi-generation families have been a crucial part of MLB’s history. Now, a trio of baseball sons of superstar dads—Vladimir Guerrero Jr., Cavan Biggio and Bo Bichette—are the core of the Blue Jays’ present and future. But these “Baby Blue Jays” are hardly the only ones impacting the game.

It left us wondering: What is the best 2020 roster composed exclusively of active players whose fathers made it to The Show?

The criteria for this “All-MLB-Sons Team” was simple: For a player to be eligible, his father must have played in MLB, whether it was one game or a Hall of Fame career.

Interesting line-up- which ones could you assemble using players that were all contemporaries?

 

QLE Posted: April 26, 2020 at 01:34 AM | 61 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JJ1986 Posted: April 26, 2020 at 12:36 PM (#5944531)
I did not have any idea that Pederson's father was an MLBer (or Cron's). I knew it was a thing, but it's also surprising how few of them are one pitcher and one position player.
   2. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: April 26, 2020 at 01:58 PM (#5944561)
I had also never heard of Stu Pederson or Chris Cron. Or Mickey Brantley, José Canó, or Fernando Hernández. And I have no clear memory of Jeff Russell or Joe Coleman despite their long careers during my childhood. Two generic names.

I knew it was a thing, but it's also surprising how few of them are one pitcher and one position player.


Only 3 out of 25 by my count. Travis/Jeff Shaw, Dereck/Ivan Rodriguez, and Dee/Tom Gordon.
   3. puck Posted: April 26, 2020 at 02:43 PM (#5944581)
I thought this was going to be an all time team. That's still a pretty good team using active players.
   4. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 26, 2020 at 04:34 PM (#5944650)
Baseball is full of obscure familial relationships. Did you know Annie Savoy was Bobby Savoy’s daughter?
   5. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: April 26, 2020 at 04:38 PM (#5944652)
Before yesterday I didn't know that Barry Bonds and Reggie Jackson are cousins. (At least that's what B-R says.)
   6. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 26, 2020 at 04:46 PM (#5944657)
I've mentioned it before, but the Blue Jays have had quite a few kids-of-MLB-players in their system (majors/minors) the past 5 seasons.

- Vladdy Gurrero Jr.
- Cavan Biggio
- Bo Bichette
- Jason Grilli
- Travis Shaw
- Dwight Smith Jr.
- Kacy Clemens (demoted to A+ from AA last season)
- Griffin Conine (A - suspended for PEDs)

And then Lourdes Gurriel Jr., son of famous Cuban star (spelled Lourdes Gourriel) that probably would have made the majors if he was allowed to try or had defected.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: April 26, 2020 at 05:58 PM (#5944699)
which ones could you assemble using players that were all contemporaries?

I'm gonna suck at this game but there were several years there when Bonds, Moises, two Boones, a Bell, Jose Cruz jr were all active which is a pretty good start. Their fathers (and some grandfathers) would be the start of a very solid team too.
   8. Cooper Nielson Posted: April 26, 2020 at 07:01 PM (#5944721)
there were several years there when Bonds, Moises, two Boones, a Bell, Jose Cruz jr were all active which is a pretty good start.

And, um, Ken Griffey Jr.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: April 26, 2020 at 08:49 PM (#5944745)
Never heard of him
   10. Itchy Row Posted: April 26, 2020 at 08:59 PM (#5944749)
An Alomar or two played around that time too.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: April 26, 2020 at 09:05 PM (#5944754)
It's distinctly possible I missed somebody but looks like the SP will have to be Todd Stottlemyre -- who had some nice years.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: April 26, 2020 at 09:11 PM (#5944756)
OK, so far we're at ...

C -- S Alomar
1B -- ?? (Adam LaRoche debuts in 2004 but that seems too late for this bunch)
2B -- R Alomar
SS -- ?? (A Boone, Bell and Alomar all had a tiny handful of starts here)
3B -- your pick of 2 Boones and a Bell
LF -- Bonds
CF -- Griffey
RF -- Cruz
DH -- Alou
SP -- T Stottlemyre

EDIT: Cal Sr never made the majors
   13. Itchy Row Posted: April 26, 2020 at 09:12 PM (#5944758)
Tony Armas Jr, Jaime Navarro, and Jaret Wright could be in the rotation, but the pitching won’t be as strong as the lineup.
   14. Itchy Row Posted: April 26, 2020 at 09:22 PM (#5944763)
Jason Kendall should probably beat out Sandy Alomar. With Todd Hundley, they’d have catching depth.
   15. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 26, 2020 at 09:29 PM (#5944765)
Jason Kendall is a better choice at catcher.
   16. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 26, 2020 at 09:29 PM (#5944766)
Jeeze.
   17. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 26, 2020 at 09:32 PM (#5944769)
Cody Bellinger at 1B

edit: Nevermind. Doing contemporaries I see.
   18. Cooper Nielson Posted: April 26, 2020 at 10:01 PM (#5944775)
OK, so far we're at ...

C -- S Alomar
1B -- ?? (Adam LaRoche debuts in 2004 but that seems too late for this bunch)
2B -- R Alomar
SS -- ?? (A Boone, Bell and Alomar all had a tiny handful of starts here)
3B -- your pick of 2 Boones and a Bell
LF -- Bonds
CF -- Griffey
RF -- Cruz
DH -- Alou
SP -- T Stottlemyre


Have we decided on a specific year? R. Alomar's last year was 2004, so unfortunately he wouldn't overlap with Prince Fielder (2005 debut).

I'd put David Segui at 1B. Shortstop's tough, all of the second-generation guys of the '90s/early '00s were weak hitters (Dick Schofield, David Howard, Kurt Stillwell). We're probably going to have to play one of the 3B (or Alomar -- with Bret Boone at 2B) out of position. Or if we can stretch to 2004, we have Rookie of the Year Bobby Crosby.
   19. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: April 26, 2020 at 10:13 PM (#5944776)
What I learned from making a 2003 roster is there are a lot more 2nd-generation hitters than pitchers.

C Jason Kendall
2B Roberto Alomar
SS Bobby Crosby or Jerry Hairston Jr. I guess
3B Bret Boone
LF Bonds
CF Griffey
RF Jose Cruz Jr.
DH Moises Alou

Bench candidates: Todd Hundley, David Bell, Aaron Boone, Preston Wilson, Scott Spiezio, Sean Burroughs, Daryle Ward, Sandy Alomar Jr., Gary Matthews Jr., Ben Grieve, David Segui

SP Jaret Wright
SP Darren Oliver
SP Tony Armas Jr.
SP Nate Cornejo
SP Mike Bacsik?
RP Justin Speier
RP Pedro Borbon Jr.

I didn't know Darren Oliver and Jaret Wright were on the list until today. Sons of Bob Oliver and Clyde Wright.

Jaime Navarro, Robb Nen and Stan Javier could come out of retirement.
   20. Cooper Nielson Posted: April 26, 2020 at 10:37 PM (#5944780)
Bret Boone only played 26.2 innings at 3B in the majors (Aaron was the 3B brother). Alomar played more than that (41 innings) at SS. So I think our best quasi-legitimate lineup would be:

2B Bret Boone
SS Roberto ALomar
3B Aaron Boone or David Bell
   21. John Northey Posted: April 27, 2020 at 02:21 AM (#5944809)
Vance Law was a 3B/2B/SS (over 100 games at each, 700 at 3B) and was the son of a Cy Young winner (Vern). 256/326/376 95 OPS+ lifetime, made an all-star team at age 31. Even 8 IP 3.38 ERA (7 games). I remember the Expos were getting confident in his pitching and started getting him ready in games within 5 runs if he was on the bench that game, and planned to use him in extras if the staff ran out. He played from 1980 to 1991.
   22. John Northey Posted: April 27, 2020 at 02:32 AM (#5944811)
Has any team had so many guys who were kids of ex-major leaguers like the Jays do?
2003 Giants: Bonds, Cruz Jr, & Lance Niekro (son of Joe got 5 PA). Plus Eric Young Sr (dad of Eric Young Jr)

Huh, there is another question - what team had the most future dad's of ML'ers?
   23. Cooper Nielson Posted: April 27, 2020 at 04:10 AM (#5944820)
Has any team had so many guys who were kids of ex-major leaguers like the Jays do?

The Mariners have seemingly had a lot, but they didn't all overlap. The 2001 team did not have Griffey Jr, but it had:

David Bell - son of Buddy
Bret Boone - son of Bob
Ed Sprague - son of Ed Sr.
Stan Javier - son of Julian

The 1997 Mariners had:

Ken Griffey Jr.
Jose Cruz Jr.
Omar Olivares - son of Ed

Then David Segui passed through in 1998-99, Scott Spiezio in 2004-2005, Eduardo Perez in 2006, Robinson Cano, Dee Gordon, Danny Tartabull a long time ago.

They had their share of MLB fathers, too: Griffey Sr., Mickey Brantley, Floyd Bannister, Maury Wills (as a manager), Mark Leiter, Brian Snyder, Diego Segui, Gary Matthews...


   24. Walt Davis Posted: April 27, 2020 at 07:34 PM (#5945230)
What I like about the team we're cooking is that the dads are a solid team too:

C -- Bob Boone
2B-SS -- Sandy Alomar (made it over 5000 PA)
3B -- Buddy Bell
OF -- Bobby Bonds, Cruz Sr, Griffey Sr
SP -- Mel Stottlemyre, Clyde Wright

Still have Armas Sr, Felipe Alou, Bob Oliver ... probably Armas to the OF and Griffey Sr to 1B (148 starts), Felipe at DH. (Actually Felipe has more starts at 1B than Griffey). Plus whoever I have forgotten/overlooked. Obviously Barry, Griffey and Roberto on one team is gonna be tough to beat but Bell, Bonds and Cruz Sr are HoVG; Boone, Griffey and Alou aren't far off and Armas certainly had his moments.
   25. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: April 27, 2020 at 07:55 PM (#5945234)
So what would be harder, to be Jeff Trout, or to be Tim Raines Jr.? Would you rather be upstaged by your son, or your father?

In my line of work there is a guy who has had a nice career, but his dad, in the same business, got knighted for his efforts. I always felt sorry for junior, even if he's more successful than I'll ever be.
   26. Cooper Nielson Posted: April 27, 2020 at 11:01 PM (#5945276)
It's interesting that neither the All-Fathers team nor the All-Sons team seems to have much pitching. I'm looking at the list of second-generation players and there's only one HOF pitcher, Ed Walsh, and he retired more than 100 years ago. There are about 15 HOF batters, and that doesn't include Barry Bonds.

There are some starting pitchers who were stars for a season or two or three (Floyd Bannister, Joe Coleman Jr., Ross Grimsley, Matt Keough, McCullers Jr., Jaime Navarro, Clyde Wright) and some decent relievers (Steve Bedrosian, Borbon Sr., Tom Gordon, Bryan Harvey, Dave LaRoche, Paul Quantrill, Jeff Russell, Jeff Shaw), but hardly anyone who put up a career WAR much higher than 20.

Outside of Walsh, Mel Stottlemyre or Dizzy Trout is probably the ace, with Doug Drabek, and Joe Niekro filling out the rotation. I'd find room for Smoky Joe Wood (Sr.) in the rotation, but he only really pitched two full seasons.
   27. Zonk WARRIORS ALONE! Posted: April 28, 2020 at 07:02 AM (#5945309)
I had also never heard of Stu Pederson or Chris Cron. Or Mickey Brantley, José Canó, or Fernando Hernández. And I have no clear memory of Jeff Russell or Joe Coleman despite their long careers during my childhood. Two generic names.


Play more rotisserie league...

You'll never forget a guy who tallies 30 saves again...

Of course, that's a LOT of people and it's a dumb stat - so you have to make room by forgetting something else. I chose Algebra.
   28. Walt Davis Posted: April 30, 2020 at 01:25 AM (#5946056)
I wonder what a draft of brothers would look like if you had to take both (all 3?) brothers. So if you want Hank, you get Tommie too; you want Greg Maddux, you get Mike too. 26 players, filling out a full roster, a few teams to keep it interesting. Sub/add fathers/sons if you prefer.
   29. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: April 30, 2020 at 08:11 AM (#5946069)
So what would be harder, to be Jeff Trout, or to be Tim Raines Jr.? Would you rather be upstaged by your son, or your father?


Oh you definitely want to be Jeff Trout. You get all the bragging rights of having your child succeed, you probably get a tearful mention during the hall of fame speech, you can hang out in the VIP suites all the time and say weird stuff to the media. Whereas the Tim Raines Jrs of the world just get to never feel all that good about the legitimately amazing accomplishment of making the majors because you aren't as good as dad.
   30. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: April 30, 2020 at 08:11 AM (#5946070)
I wonder what a draft of brothers would look like if you had to take both (all 3?) brothers.


You definitely want Dimaggio there, all 3 were good
   31. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: April 30, 2020 at 09:51 AM (#5946093)
Adam LaRoche and Andy LaRoche were at least both better than some of the lesser brothers out there.
   32. SoSH U at work Posted: April 30, 2020 at 09:55 AM (#5946096)

Adam LaRoche and Andy LaRoche were at least both better than some of the lesser brothers out there.


Obviously you also get Drake, regardless whether you want him.
   33. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 30, 2020 at 09:55 AM (#5946097)
The Alous. Would you get Moises too?

Oh, but Mel Rojas...
   34. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: April 30, 2020 at 10:25 AM (#5946109)
If you take the Molinas you get a catcher, a back-up catcher, and a third-string catcher.
   35. SoSH U at work Posted: April 30, 2020 at 10:27 AM (#5946111)

If you take the Molinas you get a catcher, a back-up catcher, and a third-string catcher.


One of the backups can help you as a pinch runner.
   36. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 11:21 AM (#5946134)
You definitely want Dimaggio there, all 3 were good


That's a good start. The question is, is it better to take 2 capable brother, neither great, or take a few mega stars and punt the wasted roster space their brother would take up? Better to take the Boone brothers, who give you 2 starting quality IF, or Honus and Butts Wagner?
   37. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 11:24 AM (#5946137)
Starting pitchers is fairly easy. Perry brothers, Niekro Brothers, and Martinez brothers. Put Ramon in the bullpen.
   38. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 11:26 AM (#5946139)
Trevor Hoffman with brother Glenn as a utility IF. Ferrell brothers, but now you have too much pitching. Put another starter in the pen.
   39. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 11:30 AM (#5946142)
Seagar brothers are better than the Boone brothers, even with their careers far from over.

Rough draft:

C - Rick Ferrell
1B -
2B - Marcus Giles
SS - Corey Seager
3B - Kyle Seager
LF - Brain Giles
CF - Dom DiMaggio
RF - Joe DiMaggio

SP - Pedro Martinez
SP - Gaylord Perry
SP - Phil Niekro
SP - Jim Perry
SP - Wes Ferrell

UT - Glenn Hoffman
OF - Vince DiMaggio


RP - Joe Niekro
RP - Ramon Martinez
RP - Trevor Hoffman
   40. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 30, 2020 at 12:17 PM (#5946179)
You could put Jason Giambi at 1B and keep Jeremy on the bench or trade him for John Mabry. Or Eddie Murray if you’re willing to waste a roster spot on Rich.
   41. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 12:25 PM (#5946182)
Walker and mort Cooper give you a good backup C and another quality arm in the pen.

You could put Jason Giambi at 1B and keep Jeremy on the bench


Been mulling that over. Another possibility is Lee and Carlos May. Lee isn't as good as Jason, but Carlos is miles better than Jeremy, and a quality bat off the bench. I think if one is going to punt a position, may go all out and put Hank Aaron at 1B.
   42. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 12:29 PM (#5946184)
If one is allowed to take only 2 of 3 or more brothers, Ed and Jim Delahanty solve the problem nicely. Ed at 1B, Jim at UT, or at 2B with Marcus at UT. but the other 3 brothers are wastes.
   43. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 12:33 PM (#5946187)
C - Rick Ferrell
1B - George Brett
2B - Marcus Giles
SS - Corey Seager
3B - Kyle Seager
LF - Brain Giles
CF - Dom DiMaggio
RF - Joe DiMaggio

SP - Pedro Martinez
SP - Gaylord Perry
SP - Phil Niekro
SP - Jim Perry
SP - Wes Ferrell

C - Walker Cooper
UT - Glenn Hoffman
OF - Vince DiMaggio


RP - Ken Brett
RP - Mort Cooper
RP - Joe Niekro
RP - Ramon Martinez
RP - Trevor Hoffman
   44. Traderdave Posted: April 30, 2020 at 12:55 PM (#5946195)
The Alous. Would you get Moises too?


Don't forget Boog!
   45. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: April 30, 2020 at 02:11 PM (#5946243)
It's hard to imagine being able to put Hank Aaron on a team and choosing not to.
   46. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 02:27 PM (#5946254)
It's hard to imagine being able to put Hank Aaron on a team and choosing not to.


Agree, but I might be inclined to go with Honus Wagner instead, considering there is a limit to how many roster spots to punt.
   47. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 02:35 PM (#5946255)
I totally spaced on the Alomar brothers. Send the coopers packing for now. Also, not wanting to load up exclusively with starters in the pen, I'll add the Worrell brothers:

C - Rick Ferrell
1B - George Brett
2B - Robbie Alomar
SS - Corey Seager
3B - Kyle Seager
LF - Brain Giles
CF - Dom DiMaggio
RF - Joe DiMaggio

SP - Pedro Martinez
SP - Gaylord Perry
SP - Phil Niekro
SP - Jim Perry
SP - Wes Ferrell

C - Sandy Alomar
UT - Glenn Hoffman
UT - Marcus Giles
OF - Vince DiMaggio


RP - Ken Brett
RP - Tim Worrell
RP - Todd Worrell
RP - Joe Niekro
RP - Ramon Martinez
RP - Trevor Hoffman
   48. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 30, 2020 at 02:45 PM (#5946261)
If we’re putting actual relievers in the pen, the Madduxes should make the team.
   49. Gch Posted: April 30, 2020 at 03:01 PM (#5946267)
If you want more pitching depth and a manager (and assuming half-brothers count), you could add William and Rube Foster. Both are in the Hall of Merit (and the HoF).
   50. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 07:37 PM (#5946380)
I'm going to dump the Giles and Hoffman brothers for Cal and Billy Ripken, and Greg and Mike Maddux, and the Aarons. That's a 25 man roster:

C - Rick Ferrell
1B - George Brett
2B - Robbie Alomar
SS - Cal Ripken
3B - Kyle Seager
LF - Hank Aaron
CF - Dom DiMaggio
RF - Joe DiMaggio

SP - Pedro Martinez
SP - Gaylord Perry
SP - Phil Niekro
SP - Greg Maddux
SP - Wes Ferrell

C - Sandy Alomar
UT - Corey Seager
UT - Billy Ripken
OF - Vince DiMaggio
OF - Tommy Aaron


RP - Ken Brett
RP - Tim Worrell
RP - Todd Worrell
RP - Joe Niekro
RP - Ramon Martinez
RP - Mike Maddux
RP - Jim Perry

MGR - Rene Lachemann
Pitching Coach - Marcel Lachemann

Owners: Hal S...no, I won't go there.

Starters are outstanding. Pen is adequate. Bench is weak.
   51. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 07:56 PM (#5946384)
Waner brothers instead of Aarons?
   52. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: April 30, 2020 at 08:45 PM (#5946392)
No. Tommy is last on the depth chart anyway. He's not getting any playing time. Vince fills in the OF when necessary, Corey Seager can run around in LF in an emergency. Given how little importance the last spot on the bench has got, you don't want the drop off from Hank to Paul.
   53. Jaack Posted: April 30, 2020 at 08:47 PM (#5946393)
I think the best move is to dump the Seagers and take the Wagners. Vincent DiMaggio and Billy Ripken are okay enough off the bench to fill in for tired starters and Butts Wagner and Tommie Aaron can be saved for emergencies.

It might be more interesting if you exclude the strongest brother of each family - you can take Dom and Vince but not Joe, etc. That de-incentivizes the big stars with replacement level brothers.
   54. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 09:24 PM (#5946399)
I think the best move is to dump the Seagers and take the Wagners. Vincent DiMaggio and Billy Ripken are okay enough off the bench to fill in for tired starters and Butts Wagner and Tommie Aaron can be saved for emergencies.


That's somehow less interesting. While we're at it, why not drop the Worrells for the Mathewsons? Put Christy in the rotation, and Henry and Ferrell in the pen.
   55. Jaack Posted: April 30, 2020 at 11:30 PM (#5946409)
That's why I think building a team out of the weaker brothers probably leads to the most interesting results. You'll get results that reflect 'the best baseball families' as opposed to 'the best baseball players whose brothers happened to make the majors'
   56. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 11:38 PM (#5946410)
Maybe that will be tomorrow's project. OTTOMH, Dom DiMaggio, Corey Seager, Joe Niekro, Jim Perry, maybe Ramon Martinez, probably the 2 catchers make the team. Clete Boyer? Jim Delahanty? Walker Cooper is probably better than Sandy Alomar. I'll sleep on it.
   57. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 30, 2020 at 11:42 PM (#5946411)
OF D should be outstanding with 3 CF: DiMaggio, Matty Alou, and Lloyd Waner.
   58. Jaack Posted: May 01, 2020 at 12:27 AM (#5946412)
First go off the top of my head

C - Rick Ferrell
1B - idk
2B - Jim Delahanty
SS - Corey Seager
3B - Clete Boyer
LF - Lloyd Waner
CF - Dom DiMaggio
RF - BJ Upton

C - Walker Cooper
UT - Aaron Boone
UT - Stephen Drew
OF - Matty Alou
OF - Vince DiMaggio

SP - Jim Perry
SP - Joe Niekro
SP - Harry Coveleski
SP - Orlando Hernandez
SP - Ramon Martinez

There's probably a better option than Vince off the bench, but I can't think off anyone better off the top of my head.

Not going to score a whole lot, but the pitching/defense is pretty good. That team could win 90+ games.
   59. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 01, 2020 at 12:34 AM (#5946413)
Still awake.

The second (or more) sons:

C - Rick Ferrell
1B - Aaron Boone
2B - Jim Delahanty
SS - Corey Seager
3B - Clete Boyer
LF - Matty Alou
CF - Dom DiMaggio
RF - Lloyd Waner

SP - Jim Perry
SP - Joe Niekro
SP - Ramon Martinez
SP - Orlando Hernandez
SP - Ken Forsch

C - Walker Cooper
UT - Marcus Giles
UT - Stephen Drew
OF - Vince DiMaggio
OF - Carlos May
OF - Irish Meusel

RP - Ken Brett
RP - Mike Maddux
RP - Tim Worrell
RP - Paul Dean
RP - Harry Coveleski
RP - Jeff Weaver

Pretty similar. Boone isn't really a 1B, but he played over 100 games there, and the best alternative I could find was Frank Torre. Boone is better. Irish might be better in the starting lineup than Matty, but they are both on the roster. Melvin Upton has a lot of value tied up in position and he won't be in CF or SS. Carlos May is the big bat off the bench.

edit: Upon further review, Irish is a much better option in LF. Put Alou on the bench. 4 CF on the team, and Irish was a decent LF.

edit II: Frankly, taking position adjustment into account, Boone isn't that much better, if any, than Torre. Take 2 of Torre, Boone, and Giles and it wouldn't make much difference.
   60. Jaack Posted: May 01, 2020 at 01:18 AM (#5946416)
Funny that Marcus Giles was a decent player for only about three years but he is a viable option on both the all time Braves team and the all time little brother team.
   61. greenback used to say live and let live Posted: May 01, 2020 at 01:52 AM (#5946418)
It's interesting that neither the All-Fathers team nor the All-Sons team seems to have much pitching.

Following up on this thought, it's remarkable how much better the Brother Groups are than the Father/Son groups. I'm not sure what that says about training for pitching.

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