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Saturday, April 03, 2021

Los Angeles Angels reliever Ty Buttrey, 28, announces he’s leaving baseball

Los Angeles Angels reliever Ty Buttrey is walking away from baseball, saying he has lost his affection for the game.

“I just wanted to prove everyone wrong,” he posted on social media Saturday. “As time went on baseball became more of a business and less of a game. I couldn’t help but notice my love and passion for this game started to diminish. I always thought baseball was a cool job. I also knew that same job paid extremely well. What young kid doesn’t want a cool job that pays well?”

The right-hander was one of the key pieces of the Angels’ bullpen over the past three seasons, but he struggled with control problems during spring training and was optioned to the team’s alternate training site.

His 115 appearances from 2018-20 were fourth on the team among pitchers, and he was 8-11 with a 4.30 ERA.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 03, 2021 at 09:21 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Darren Posted: April 04, 2021 at 05:35 PM (#6011576)
Good for him. Maybe after he's away for a while he'll be able to remember what he liked about baseball. Or maybe he will realize that he's happier doing something else. Either way, good luck to him.
   2. cardsfanboy Posted: April 04, 2021 at 06:29 PM (#6011580)
umm... getting paid 300,000 at a minimum a year to play baseball or fighting for hours at wal-mart.... I fully expect him to be back by August.
   3. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: April 04, 2021 at 06:45 PM (#6011581)
Yeah, it feels like something where he’s a spring training invite somewhere next February. Like Darren said whatever he does I hope it works out for him.
   4. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 04, 2021 at 08:24 PM (#6011596)
it was that whole "all star game in ATL bullshit" huh?"
   5. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: April 04, 2021 at 08:26 PM (#6011598)
Guess I agree with everyone else. Not going to take long to realize that everything else sucks too.
   6. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: April 04, 2021 at 08:42 PM (#6011601)
Buttney got a $1.3 million signing bonus as a 4th-round pick from Boston in 2012, then got paid minor-league money until mid-2018, when he probably made a couple hundred grand with the Angels.

Then, in 2019, he made $557K.
In 2020, he was supposed to make about $578K, which would get him another $215K or so.

I mean, if he was smart with his money over the past nine years, he's probably made something like $2.4 million since 2012. After taxes, and probably some "fun spending" (tell me you wouldn't buy a cool car and pick up the tab for some good meals if you got a $1.2 million check when you were 19 years old). There's no way he's got a million of it left - so he's going to have to get a job. He has a high school degree from a high school in suburban Charlotte. I mean, what do you do if you're him? Sell real estate and coach at a local high school or college?

When you put yourself in his shoes for a minute (acknowledging there is potentially plenty we don't know about his life, obviously), it seems pretty clear that he'll be trying to make a pitching staff somewhere in 2021, because there's almost certainly nowhere else where you can make $500K+ a year in your 20s with a high school degree. I don't care how much you dislike it - you'll probably be out of the game in a few years, anyway, so milk it for whatever you can, as long as somebody will pay you several hundred thousand a year or more to do it!
   7. Brian C Posted: April 04, 2021 at 11:13 PM (#6011633)
I hope it works out for him too, because why wouldn't I? But it's hard not to roll my eyes a bit - virtually everyone in the world lives with a job they're not "passionate" about, that's just how life is for the vast majority of people. So it seems pretty narcissistic to whine about it in public like this.

If you don't want to play baseball anymore, then just ... don't. It's not like he's Mike Trout or someone that people will wonder about where he is if he doesn't show up; he's a rando middle reliever with just over 100 IP to his name. The self-pity party is a bit much.
   8. Jay Seaver Posted: April 04, 2021 at 11:36 PM (#6011639)
I'm not really seeing a pity party here. He made a big change in his life, posted about it on his Instagram, and seemingly did so without saying he'd been miserable or treated badly. It seems a bit like over-sharing to those of us who are older, but he's 28 and probably got a bunch of followers who are fans of the team, and he might figure they deserve an explanation.

I imagine that if he does decide to come back, it will have to be with the Angels unless they release him - he'd be on the restricted list, right? And while maybe time away convinces him that baseball is better than working for a living, it's been a weird year; he might have found himself relieved to be home and in one place last summer, and maybe making the big leagues again after being demoted is unappealing for one way or another.
   9. Lowry Seasoning Salt Posted: April 04, 2021 at 11:47 PM (#6011640)
If you don't want to play baseball anymore, then just ... don't. It's not like he's Mike Trout or someone that people will wonder about where he is if he doesn't show up; he's a rando middle reliever with just over 100 IP to his name. The self-pity party is a bit much.


I see social media posts like this as just the contemporary version of a press release.
   10. Der-K's emotional investment is way up Posted: April 05, 2021 at 09:28 AM (#6011660)
8/9 - yup.
   11. bunyon Posted: April 05, 2021 at 09:45 AM (#6011664)
He's 28 and might have as much as a million bucks in the bank (probably not but he's got a lot unless he's a complete fool (which, non zero chance, sure)).

Anyway, point is, he won't make $500K this year. He may never make it again. But he can afford to go to college, or get training, and get a job that pays well. He's probably in better shape than most 28 year olds.

The stuff about passion is pablum even if he believes it. Plenty of people (I mean, look who I'm talking to, you guys know this) work passionless jobs even when the job they work started as a job of passion. Jobs are jobs after a while. But for his long term future, quitting know, using some of his savings to get a degree or skilled training is probably better than making another million in two below average years and getting released.

Changing course is always easier younger than older.

With that said, yeah, I'd expect him to try again in 2021. Sabbaticals can be good things. Especially for pitchers.
   12. Zonk Can Sell Culture Posted: April 05, 2021 at 10:01 AM (#6011670)
I mean, if he was smart with his money over the past nine years, he's probably made something like $2.4 million since 2012. After taxes, and probably some "fun spending" (tell me you wouldn't buy a cool car and pick up the tab for some good meals if you got a $1.2 million check when you were 19 years old). There's no way he's got a million of it left - so he's going to have to get a job. He has a high school degree from a high school in suburban Charlotte. I mean, what do you do if you're him? Sell real estate and coach at a local high school or college?


Depends, though -- whatever was left after some spoiling of himself (which absolutely, I'd do), did the rest go to woodwork relatives and friends with "business ideas" or did a good chunk of that go into some kind of financial instrument, whether with a good adviser (read: NOT Lenny Dykstra) or even a robo managed account?

If some form of the latter, even conservatively managed - he ought to have well over a million "left"... Enough to never work again? Maybe not... unless he's a FIRE guy and wants to live like a hermit... Depends on what sort "not working" lifestyle he wants. He certainly wouldn't be flying first class to the French Riviera for luxury vacations, but if it's just a white picket fence and two-car garage, weekends fishing, etc... Maybe...
   13. bunyon Posted: April 05, 2021 at 10:23 AM (#6011675)
A 28 year old living in small town midwest with a decent job will can have a really nice life. That same 28 year old starts with a million in the bank will have a better one.

Lots of variables and unknowns, of course. But if you're miserable, you have to change something.
   14. Zonk Can Sell Culture Posted: April 05, 2021 at 04:25 PM (#6011765)
A 28 year old living in small town midwest with a decent job will can have a really nice life. That same 28 year old starts with a million in the bank will have a better one.

Lots of variables and unknowns, of course. But if you're miserable, you have to change something.


Oh sure. I'm in no way judging or otherwise voicing an opinion on Buttrey's choice personally. Do what's right for your well-being, obviously.

I just enjoy musing on what older, wiser me would have told younger, dumber me (knowing full well that younger, dumber me would have told older, wiser me to piss off!)...

I do think wiser, older me -- even sans "Hey, buy Amazon at $150" knowledge -- could have set up younger, dumber me up with a comfortable living just solely based on bonus and a couple years of MLB minimum salary.... though, younger dumber - again - would have said piss off... I've baubles to buy.
   15. bunyon Posted: April 05, 2021 at 04:52 PM (#6011772)
Yeah, zonk, the biggest variable in how dumb this move is, is: How much did you save?

I can imagine him having well over a million well invested.

I can also imagine he's tens of thousands in debt.

From a purely financial perspective, this is dumb. Most people never make 250K in a year. Hell, most don't make 100K. A "wiser" course here would be to realize you don't want to play forever so you hire a financial advisor and play two or three years (if they let you) and then see where you are.

Three years at league minimum is more than most folks make in a lifetime.

After an afternoon of mind numbing meetings, I'm less charitable toward this decision than I was this morning.
   16. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 05, 2021 at 08:05 PM (#6011807)
Y'all remember Brandon Wood? He hit 57 homers between High A and Fall League as a 20-year-old shortstop, then hit 25 in AA, 23 and then 31 in AAA. Turned out to be a total bust — just struck out too much. On the Baseball America Podcast a few months ago, he talked about how utterly miserable being a guy struggling in baseball could be. He went from being BA's #3 prospect at 21 to not even being able to hit .100 in indy ball before hanging it up at 29. He suffered through depression, turned to alcohol, poisoned a bunch of personal relationships, and became a total wreck of a human being. I'm guessing none of our baseball dreams include the part where the dream destroys every ounce of your self-worth.

We're at a point in ballplayer evolution where, generally speaking, guys are banking enough money that they don't have to hang in there in utter misery. If Buttrey's voluntarily walking away at this point, it's a good bet he's banked a few hundred grand, and that's more than enough for him to try his hand at something else.

   17. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: April 07, 2021 at 11:32 AM (#6012213)
With that said, yeah, I'd expect him to try again in 2021.


Aren't we already in 2021, or did I get Groundhog Day'd back to 2020? Please tell me I didn't.

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