Very, very sad, but another example of the importance of having your kids ride in the back seat. I'm thinking that I won't let my son ride in the front seat until he's at least 25.

Makes me wonder if seat belts were in use.

Of course, any fatality story in my old newspaper in Little Rock (employer of at least one fellow Primate even as I type) would have omitted that detail, per the insane executive editor's order, who considered it propaganda. Something to do with his being a libertarian (but, having noted he was insane, I repeat myself), which also manifested itself in his insistence that all prisoner executions go on page 3B, including the nation's first triple execution in some 5 decades.

(I was night city editor for that fiasco, so I've never gotten over it. I'll be very, very disappointed in myself if I ever do. The executions were considered newsworthy enough for me to be interviewed [via phone, of course] about them on Australian ####### radio, for godssakes.)

I'm tired of all these...fatal crashes.

RIP.

Very sad.

Isn't it a bit odd that you have a set of twins, where one is a HoF caliber talent, and the other never played affiliated ball?

Isn't it a bit odd that you have a set of twins, where one is a HoF caliber talent, and the other never played affiliated ball?

it points out two things:

1. the fact that identical twins are not truly 'identical'

2. at the MLB level incremental differences in talent are in high relief.

I didn't know Albert had a twin brother--are there any other well-known MLB players who had an identical twin brother? I don't know of any, except Canseco, of course.

I don't think they were identical, phredbird.

I read somewhere that both he and Albert graduated top 10 in their HS class (like, 5 and 6). Impressive if true.

Wiki says they were fraternal, rather than identical twins.

I read somewhere that both he and Albert graduated top 10 in their HS class (like, 5 and 6). Impressive if true.

I believe Albert graduated with an Accounting degree from LSU and was an Eagle Scout. Sometimes I think he was treated unfairly by the media. Kind of like Milton Bradley.

I remember hearing that Albert had a very high IQ. In the picture with the article, Terry looks like a benevolent Albert, but Albert may have looked like that in college too.

are there any other well-known MLB players who had an identical twin brother?

Edd Roush had a twin brother (dunno if they were identical) who played in the minors.

I believe Albert graduated with an Accounting degree from LSU and was an Eagle Scout. Sometimes I think he was treated unfairly by the media. Kind of like Milton Bradley.

At the very least, he was treated unfairly by kids with eggs.

I believe Albert graduated with an Accounting degree from LSU and was an Eagle Scout. Sometimes I think he was treated unfairly by the media. Kind of like Milton Bradley.

I don't remember the rep on Albert ever being that he was a dumb guy. The rep on him was that he was a jerk.

Being a smart guy with good grades and a degree doesn't mean it is unfair for the media to point it out when you're being a jerk.

I don't remember the rep on Albert ever being that he was a dumb guy. The rep on him was that he was a jerk.

In fairness, the Eagle Scout thing would tend to contradict that somewhat.

The Immoral Eric Enders wrote a piece about Belle a few years back that's somewhat relevant here. I don't think he's as good a guy as Eric does, but neither do I think he's the cartoon supervillain he's often portrayed as being in the media. Real people are more complicated than that.

I don't think they were identical, phredbird.

oops. but my point still holds when you look at the cansecos and roushes.

In fairness, the Eagle Scout thing would tend to contradict that somewhat.

On the other hand, the stalking of his ex does confirm that Belle is in fact a jerk.

None of the good guys are ever as good as they're made out to be and none of the bad guys are ever as bad as they're made out to be.

btw, albert belle was on course to overtake mel ott as the best Louisiana native MLB player ever before his career was shortened.

but my point still holds when you look at the cansecos

Did Ozzie C. do the same drugs as Jose? Seriously, there's a difference maker.

Being a smart guy with good grades and a degree doesn't mean it is unfair for the media to point it out when you're being a jerk.

True. My focus was on how neat it would be to be the parent of two really really good students like that.

#3 Well played. I was wondering whether anybody could make the meme work in such circumstances.

none of the bad guys are ever as bad as they're made out to be.

Lenny Dykstra is doing his damnedest to disprove that.

RIP Mr. Belle, and my condolences to his family.

I believe Albert graduated with an Accounting degree from LSU and was an Eagle Scout. Sometimes I think he was treated unfairly by the media. Kind of like Milton Bradley.


Not that I think Bradley was treated completely fairly by the press, but it seems like his defenders here always want to forget the domestic violence allegations against him.

Did Ozzie C. do the same drugs as Jose? Seriously, there's a difference maker.

According to Jose, yes he did.

"Let me give you a perfect example. I have an identical twin brother, Ozzie. He is the closest thing to me genetically...My twin brother used the same chemicals, same workouts, the same nutrition. Why didn't he make it in the big leagues?"

Of course, Jose neglects to mention the fact that his brother was raised as a pitcher, and wasn't converted into a full-time position player until he was a 21-year-old in A-ball. If Ozzie had focused on hitting all his life like Jose did, he might have had a more successful MLB career.

At the very least, he was treated unfairly by kids with eggs.

They weren't kids; they were legal adults. That doesn't mean it is okay to use the fender of your SUV to pin them to a garage door until the cops arrive, but they were dumbasses over the age of 18.

They weren't kids; they were legal adults. That doesn't mean it is okay to use the fender of your SUV to pin them to a garage door until the cops arrive

Crap, looks like I've been doing it wrong.

They weren't kids; they were legal adults. That doesn't mean it is okay to use the fender of your SUV to pin them to a garage door until the cops arrive, but they were dumbasses over the age of 18.

Every mention of the incident lists them as teenagers. I don't think it's inaccurate for me to refer to them as kids.

are there any other well-known MLB players who had an identical twin brother?

Edd Roush had a twin brother (dunno if they were identical) who played in the minors.

Don't know if they qualify as well-known, but there were the O'Brien twins, Eddie and Johnny. College basketball stars, and then directly to the majors (if you could call the 1953 Pirates the majors).

And Eddie was a fairly prominent character in Ball Four.

none of the bad guys are ever as bad as they're made out to be.

The greatest trick Steve Garvey was convincing Jose is The Special Seabiscuit believe that he didn't exist.

"Let me give you a perfect example. I have an identical twin brother, Ozzie. He is the closest thing to me genetically...My twin brother used the same chemicals, same workouts, the same nutrition. Why didn't he make it in the big leagues?"

Interesting. Do you recall, was Jose making a point, or was he merely ruminating?