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Monday, October 25, 2021

Major League Baseball work stoppage almost certain on Dec. 2

Baseball’s ninth work stoppage and first in 26 years appears almost certain to start Dec. 2, freezing the free-agent market and threatening the start of spring training in February.

Negotiations have been taking place since last spring, and each side thinks the other has not made proposals that will lead toward an agreement replacing the five-year contract that expires at 11:59 p.m. EST on Dec. 1.

The luxury tax system that started with the 2003 season sunsets with the expiration of the labor contract, with the exception of completing accounting and payments for the 2021 tax year. Uncertainty over the 2022 season probably will cause high-spending clubs to delay reaching pricier player agreements.

Free agents can start signing with any team on the sixth day following the World Series, and this year’s group includes Carlos Correa, Corey Seager, Freddie Freeman, Trevor Story, Max Scherzer, Marcus Semien, Kris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo, Michael Conforto and Kevin Gausman.

MLB may attempt a signing freeze with the start of a lockout, or the marketplace might grind to a halt on its own, even more pronounced than the slowdowns of the 2017-18 and 2018-19 offseasons.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 25, 2021 at 04:18 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John Northey Posted: October 25, 2021 at 06:01 PM (#6048978)
Ugh. Also makes this a window of opportunity for GM's willing to take massive risks. Either by trading away guys who are on their last year pre-free agency or by trading for them. In theory the risk should cut the price significantly.
   2. WKRP in Cincinnatus Posted: October 25, 2021 at 08:12 PM (#6048998)
Pretty lame, Rob.
   3. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 25, 2021 at 08:47 PM (#6049005)
Remaining optimistic, I’m buying spring training tickets tomorrow.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: October 25, 2021 at 08:55 PM (#6049010)
It makes the QO and opt-out decisions more complicated, at least for the players.
   5. JRVJ Posted: October 25, 2021 at 09:17 PM (#6049017)
Strongly suggest listening to Kevin Goldstein's podcast, as he has been explaining the mechanisms of the lockout.

His point is basically that a lockout is inevitable (*), but its not that big a deal in the short term.

(*) Unless MLB and MLBPA decide to extend the current CBA for one more year, which may actually be desirable for both parties, for a number of reasons that Goldstein has explained in detail.
   6. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: October 26, 2021 at 07:23 AM (#6049059)
We really need to coordinate pandemics and work stoppages better.
   7. The Duke Posted: October 26, 2021 at 09:39 AM (#6049079)
Well they better cancel the Era Committee votes for the HOF as it would be hard to have a vote during a lockout
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 26, 2021 at 10:19 AM (#6049084)
Isn't the BBHOF a different entity than MLB?
   9. Astroenteritis Posted: October 26, 2021 at 01:27 PM (#6049150)
Remaining optimistic, I’m buying spring training tickets tomorrow.


I'm planning only my second spring training trip ever, this one to the west coast of Florida, so I'm going to remain hopeful as well.

Enjoyed visiting West Palm Beach and the Astros/Nats complex in spring of 2019, but spent half of the four days sick in my hotel bed. Yuck.
   10. The Honorable Ardo Posted: October 26, 2021 at 10:08 PM (#6049258)
What's with spring training and nausea? On my first visit to Joker Marchant Stadium in Lakeland, I threw up on the outfield lawn seating area.
   11. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: October 27, 2021 at 01:10 AM (#6049324)
Baseball’s ninth work stoppage and first in 26 years appears almost certain to start Dec. 2,
Does it actually count as a "work stoppage" if they weren't going to be working then anyway? Shouldn't reporters use accurate terminology rather than lazy cliches?
   12. McCoy Posted: October 27, 2021 at 05:47 AM (#6049327)
The sun.
   13. Jose is an Absurd Sultan Posted: October 27, 2021 at 08:34 AM (#6049339)
I'm planning only my second spring training trip ever, this one to the west coast of Florida, so I'm going to remain hopeful as well.


JetBlue Park (Fenway South) offers behind the scenes tours of their ballpark in Fort Myers. It's pretty interesting. JetBlue is great and if you time it right you can do a game there during the day then head over to Hammond Stadium (Twins) a few miles away for a nightcap. Both parks are nice.
   14. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 27, 2021 at 08:59 AM (#6049340)
What are the odds that a lockout or strike beginning three months before spring training really has much effect on the season? How long do these things usually last? I assume most guys are doing a fair amount of training on their own, in order to remain in The Best Shape of Their Life (tm).
   15. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:10 AM (#6049353)
Does it actually count as a "work stoppage" if they weren't going to be working then anyway? Shouldn't reporters use accurate terminology rather than lazy cliches?


It also seems misleading to call it a "work stoppage" rather than a "lockout."
   16. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: October 27, 2021 at 10:18 AM (#6049355)
@15: We’ll, that too — I expect that they’re using that term so that when they’re discussing the historical context, they can say it’s the Nth stoppage and count both lockouts and strikes. But either way, you can’t lock people out who aren’t showing up to work in the first place.

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