Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Monday, September 16, 2019

Mariano Rivera gets nation’s highest civilian honor |  NJ.com

WASHINGTON — As he had done so many times as the closer for the New York Yankees, Mariano Rivera entered to the music of Metallica’s “Enter Sandman.”

This time, though, he was in a suit, not a baseball uniform, and he was accompanied by the president of the United States, Donald Trump, who said Rivera “put the batter to sleep.”

And instead of notching another save, Rivera walked away with the nation’s highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which Trump put around his neck during a ceremony at the White House.

This is big news pertaining to a big baseball name. Let’s not turn the comment section into a garbage fire.

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 16, 2019 at 08:23 PM | 36 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: mariano rivera, yuge award

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. "RMc", the superbatsman Posted: September 16, 2019 at 09:13 PM (#5879807)
Orange Man bad! Orange Man bad!

*ahem* Sorry.
   2. The Honorable Ardo Posted: September 16, 2019 at 09:34 PM (#5879814)
My first thought was, "Oh, no, who else got it?"

It turns out Trump has given the medal to a wide array of sports figures (as did Richard Nixon... infer what you will). In the last 12 months alone, the recipients include Rivera, Jerry West, Bob Cousy, Tiger Woods, NFL Hall of Famer/jurist Alan Page, Babe Ruth posthumously, and Roger Staubach.
   3. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 16, 2019 at 09:51 PM (#5879822)
It turns out Trump has given the medal to a wide array of sports figures (as did Richard Nixon... infer what you will).
Every President since Gerald Ford bestowed the Medal of Freedom on sports figures, and the Medal has been given out more frequently in all categories by recent presidents. Wikipedia has Obama as the leader, with 12 sports figures receiving the Medal from him, out of his 123 total, which is also a record.
   4. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: September 16, 2019 at 10:05 PM (#5879829)
So, Curt Schilling’s next?
   5. cardsfanboy Posted: September 16, 2019 at 10:10 PM (#5879830)
I'm not a Trump fan, but I think his best piece of work as Resident in Chief, was giving Jack Johnson a pardon... arguably the only humanly decent thing he did in his Residency of the White House.
   6. Lassus Posted: September 16, 2019 at 10:20 PM (#5879834)
A garbage fire sounds like an improvement.
   7. PreservedFish Posted: September 16, 2019 at 10:21 PM (#5879835)
What's so bad about garbage fires anyway? Hobos gotta stay warm somehow.
   8. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: September 16, 2019 at 10:32 PM (#5879837)
I'm sick of players like Mariano Rivera and Albert Belle getting the highest civilian honor bestowed upon them.

(Oh man it was tempting to say "...by Chris Truby" right there. Glad I managed to resist.)

And yeah, Obama did it too. He gave the medal to Stan Musial.
   9. cardsfanboy Posted: September 16, 2019 at 10:38 PM (#5879839)
Every President since Gerald Ford bestowed the Medal of Freedom on sports figures, and the Medal has been given out more frequently in all categories by recent presidents. Wikipedia has Obama as the leader, with 12 sports figures receiving the Medal from him, out of his 123 total, which is also a record.


The problem is that the current resident in chief has to worry about people not wanting to show up because of him being a racist or being stuck with Wendy's hamberders in the celebratory dinner.So he's going to have a tough road to reach Obama's numbers.... But Schilling and Rocker will answer the call if asked.
   10. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 16, 2019 at 10:50 PM (#5879842)
Mariano Rivera could be ensconced in velvet by David Duke instead of being given a medal by David Duke's hero, and AFAIC he'll still always be #42 with an 0.70 postseason ERA. True Yankees are always given a pass.
   11. QLE Posted: September 16, 2019 at 11:26 PM (#5879848)
And yeah, Obama did it too. He gave the medal to Stan Musial.


Mind you, I thought that irritating Murray Chass was something that could unite us, regardless of partisanship or ideology....
   12. Walt Davis Posted: September 17, 2019 at 03:19 AM (#5879874)
So, Curt Schilling’s next?

Ted Nugent. (Actually, if he gave one to Ruth, Ted Williams and Lou Gehrig might be next.)
   13. The Duke Posted: September 17, 2019 at 08:27 AM (#5879887)
It’s sad that such a great achievement for Rivera can only be mocked. If you can see aside your hate for the president, check out his Wikipedia page on his charitable activities. These are the kind of athletes who should be getting these awards.
   14. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: September 17, 2019 at 09:02 AM (#5879895)
I clicked on the headline to see if it was the US or Panama.

   15. catomi01 Posted: September 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM (#5879997)
I got to share a plan right back from Washington to NYC with Rivera a few years ago...I forget what he was there for specifically, but it was something at the White House then too. One of those weird experiences where I was at the gate, happened to look up, and "oh ####...that's Mariano Rivera."
   16. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:03 PM (#5880005)
Why?
   17. Lassus Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:14 PM (#5880015)
I don't understand the question in #16.
   18. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:31 PM (#5880026)
Why?
   19. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:33 PM (#5880030)
Why?

votes.
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:35 PM (#5880032)
I don't understand the question in #16.

What could Mariano Rivera have possibly done in his life as a baseball player to deserve an award from the entire U.S.A.?

Has he had some humanitarian endeavour I'm unaware of?
   21. JJ1986 Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:36 PM (#5880035)
What could Mariano Rivera have possibly done in his life as a baseball player to deserve an award from the entire U.S.A.?
I think he has publicly supported Trump.
   22. PreservedFish Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:37 PM (#5880036)
That's a kind of humanitarian endeavor.
   23. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:39 PM (#5880037)
It appears that Snapper is unfamiliar with the criteria for the Medal of Freedom. Check out the list linked in #3. It seems that one needs to excel at something, and be someone the President deems worthy of honoring.
   24. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:41 PM (#5880039)
Rivera should invite Trump to his swimming pool.
   25. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:41 PM (#5880040)
What could Mariano Rivera have possibly done in his life as a baseball player to deserve an award from the entire U.S.A.?


He saved more than any other ballplayer ever.
   26. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:42 PM (#5880042)
It appears that Snapper is unfamiliar with the criteria for the Medal of Freedom. Check out the list linked in #3. It seems that one needs to excel at something, and be someone the President deems worthy of honoring.

You mean these criteria?

The Presidential Medal of Freedom is awarded by the president of the United States "for especially meritorious contribution to (1) the security or national interests of the United States, or (2) world peace, or (3) cultural or other significant public or private endeavors".


Athletes mostly don't qualify. I mean, Jackie Robinson did. Roberto Clemente for his humanitarian wrosk, and death while doing them. Not too many others do.
   27. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 17, 2019 at 01:52 PM (#5880050)
Athletes mostly don't qualify. I mean, Jackie Robinson did. Roberto Clemente for his humanitarian wrosk, and death while doing them. Not too many others do.
The list of winners suggests that recent Presidents don’t agree with your position on athletes Medal of Freedom worthiness.
   28. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: September 17, 2019 at 02:05 PM (#5880060)
I mean, I don't know how much he is personally involved, or how much the foundation has done, but, from the Mariano Rivera Foundation webpage:

Our mission, for the past 19 years, has been to provide youth from impoverished families with an education that will empower them for the future.


That could fall under 3 in the list of qualifications in 26.
   29. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 17, 2019 at 02:09 PM (#5880063)
The list of winners suggests that recent Presidents don’t agree with your position on athletes Medal of Freedom worthiness.

I'm just reading the criteria.
   30. jmurph Posted: September 17, 2019 at 02:11 PM (#5880066)
(3) cultural or other significant public or private endeavors".

This seems broad enough to include just about anything, frankly.
   31. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 17, 2019 at 03:27 PM (#5880095)
As I said, I'm fine with Trump giving the award to Mo, and in general I don't care much one way or another about an athlete's politics. But don't be surprised if the next Democratic president gives the same award to Colin Kaepernick.
   32. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 17, 2019 at 04:20 PM (#5880120)
This seems broad enough to include just about anything, frankly.

Yeah, #3 would cover being really great at baseball. And frankly, if they give the award to great artists/performers simply for being great at their craft then I don't see why athletes shouldn't fall in that same bucket. They're all just various forms of entertainment at the end of the day.
   33. rr: calming the thread down with my arms Posted: September 17, 2019 at 04:25 PM (#5880124)
Bob Dylan got one when Obama was Pres. I have no big problem with it, but when I read the headline, I figured that Rivera had received something from the Panamanian government.
   34. WSPanic Posted: September 17, 2019 at 05:43 PM (#5880139)
It’s sad that such a great achievement for Rivera can only be mocked. If you can see aside your hate for the president, check out his Wikipedia page on his charitable activities. These are the kind of athletes who should be getting these awards.


Who is mocking the achievement for Rivera?
   35. Lassus Posted: September 18, 2019 at 09:41 AM (#5880340)
To clarify, I actually thought the question in #16 referred to the last sentence of #15.
   36. PreservedFish Posted: September 18, 2019 at 09:44 AM (#5880341)
Why?

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Dynasty League Baseball

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Andere Richtingen
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogNolan Arenado feels “disrespected” as Rockies GM Jeff Bridich nixes trade talks
(40 - 11:24pm, Jan 21)
Last: Tom Nawrocki

NewsblogCubs Fans Boo Chairman Tom Ricketts at Team Convention
(35 - 11:22pm, Jan 21)
Last: Zonk didn't order a hit on an ambassador

NewsblogJeter's Hall call near-unanimous; Walker elected
(14 - 11:19pm, Jan 21)
Last: Zonk didn't order a hit on an ambassador

NewsblogOT - Soccer Thread - January, 2020
(223 - 11:15pm, Jan 21)
Last: Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle

NewsblogRyan Thibs’ Hall of Fame Tracker
(1341 - 11:13pm, Jan 21)
Last: Rennie's Tenet

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 1-21-2020
(12 - 11:01pm, Jan 21)
Last: bobm

NewsblogEx-M’s ace Félix Hernández has minor league deal with Braves
(27 - 10:40pm, Jan 21)
Last: baxter

Hall of MeritLarry Walker
(42 - 10:16pm, Jan 21)
Last: Bleed the Freak

NewsblogWATCH: Carpenter says lack of identity at plate is why he struggled; New focus to not pull the ball
(9 - 9:56pm, Jan 21)
Last: Walt Davis

Hall of MeritGavvy Cravath
(305 - 9:37pm, Jan 21)
Last: DL from MN

NewsblogJ.D. Martinez says Red Sox are innocent. Now what?
(27 - 9:28pm, Jan 21)
Last: Darren

NewsblogOT - Catch-All Pop Culture Extravaganza (January 2020)
(209 - 8:53pm, Jan 21)
Last: yo la tengo

Newsblog20 Big Questions About MLB's Sign-Stealing Scandal
(6 - 8:37pm, Jan 21)
Last: What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face?

NewsblogMLB Source: Cubs 'got fat and happy' after World Series, culture must change
(37 - 6:11pm, Jan 21)
Last: bfan

NewsblogPosnanski: Baseball 100 Rules
(425 - 5:59pm, Jan 21)
Last: Eric J can SABER all he wants to

Page rendered in 0.3391 seconds
46 querie(s) executed