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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Tuesday, October 18, 2022Mariners and Jesse Winker are reportedly at odds and butting heads
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Posted: October 18, 2022 at 05:12 PM | 19 comment(s)
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1. The_Ex Posted: October 18, 2022 at 06:55 PM (#6101506)I'm surprised you're able to discern the Reds' mindset from that lofty Cardinals perch.
The Reds spent a supplemental 1st round pick on Winker. There were always questions about his defense. But when he hit, he hit, and the Reds got a couple of decent years out of him while the team was a fringe playoff contender.
I don't see how Winker is indicative of some greater organizational blind spot. Especially since none of these types of issues came up while he was in Cincinnati.
The guy had a career 130 OPS+ coming into this year. 140 in his previous 650 PA. $8M is not expensive. Someone would give something to see if they can get a 140 OPS+ bat. especially with everyone needing a DH now.
I thought we regularly mock Seattle? #6 org? They went like 15 years without developing an above average hitter.
Well, they traded for him and Eugenio Suarez. They don't seem to have given up much in that trade. They needed a starting OF/DH and a 3B. Winker had been a guy who hit well but was below-average on defense but this year didn't hit well and apparently played atrocious defense ... but Seattle kept sending him out there anyway and DHing Carlos Santana who hit the same. Meanwhile Suarez looked like a guy in major decline, was even below replacement last year, and he had a fabulous 4-WAR year. I'd call it a win for Seattle.
Injuries he was dealing with at the end were very real.”
https://twitter.com/Jake_M_Garcia/status/1582857158680399873
The (former) Red Sox player Winker makes me think of is Andrew Benintendi. Trading Winker would likely be trading low as the Sox foolishly did on Benny. One less year of control though for Winker.
Verdugo is younger, cheaper, tied to his team longer, plays better defense, is a better baserunner, is more durable, and is a known personality to the team. Why would you trade all of that to get someone who can *maybe* hit enough to make up for the decreased defense?
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