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Saturday, May 22, 2021

Mariners catcher José Godoy becomes 20,000th player in MLB history

History was made Friday night at Petco Park, and it had nothing to do with all the runs the San Diego Padres put on the board against Seattle Mariners in their series opener (SD 16, SEA 1).

In the sixth inning, Mariners catcher José Godoy made his MLB debut and replaced starter Tom Murphy behind the plate. With that, Godoy became the 20,000th player in MLB history. The milestone was not acknowledged at the ballpark, though the Mariners tweeted out a video featuring Jeopardy! legend (and Mariners fan) Ken Jennings celebrating Godoy’s accomplishment.

Wow, 20,000 players, can you name them all?

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 22, 2021 at 04:39 PM | 30 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2021 at 07:28 PM (#6020309)
This won't take long ... I'll start ... Jose Godoy
   2. Brian White Posted: May 22, 2021 at 07:52 PM (#6020313)
So who was the 19,999th player in MLB history?
   3. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: May 22, 2021 at 08:56 PM (#6020322)
Wow, 20,000 players, can you name them all?

in alphabetical order? I'll start:

Aardsma
Aaron
Aaron
....
   4. karlmagnus Posted: May 22, 2021 at 09:14 PM (#6020325)
I think Bobby Matthews was #1, in the sense of throwing the first pitch in MLB, in 1871. Is that correct?
   5. Sweatpants Posted: May 22, 2021 at 09:16 PM (#6020326)
in alphabetical order? I'll start:

Aardsma
Aaron
Aaron
....
I'll guess Ed Abbatichio for #4.
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 22, 2021 at 09:50 PM (#6020329)

I think Bobby Matthews was #1, in the sense of throwing the first pitch in MLB, in 1871. Is that correct?


The batter was Julio Franco.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2021 at 09:59 PM (#6020330)
And the plate ump called a strike on a pitch a foot outside. Julio stepped out of the box, fidgeted with his gloves. Matthews called the catcher out to get the signs straight. And our great game was born!
   8. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2021 at 10:09 PM (#6020336)
Storm, Willie, Jumbo, Tommy (twice apparently), Chris, Khris, Alvin, Glenn, Ben, Wade, Rajai, Eric, Chili, Jody, Ike, George, Mark, Ron, Crash and many more you can find yourself at this obscure site I found called baseball-reference.com
   9. vortex of dissipation Posted: May 22, 2021 at 11:14 PM (#6020344)
Does Larry Yount count?
   10. The Duke Posted: May 23, 2021 at 01:10 AM (#6020354)
There were only 8000 before the 2020 season but everyone had to make a lot of callups due to Covid
   11. kcgard2 Posted: May 23, 2021 at 05:54 AM (#6020361)
#5: Fernando Abad beats Abbatichio
   12. kcgard2 Posted: May 23, 2021 at 05:56 AM (#6020362)
And does this 20,000 count include NgL players? I assume it does since NgL recently was designated as MLB leagues.
   13. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: May 23, 2021 at 08:41 AM (#6020363)
Does Larry Yount count?

How about Edward L. Thayer and Lou Proctor?
   14. sanny manguillen Posted: May 23, 2021 at 09:55 AM (#6020365)
Just over 50% of these guys are still alive, something like 10,200.

I don't think that Negro Leaguers are in the number. BB-Ref's been counting up toward 20,000 for quite, so I think a big influx would have jumped right over 20k.
   15. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: May 23, 2021 at 10:02 AM (#6020367)
Just as long as he doesn't betray Spain to the Corsican Ogre.
   16. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 23, 2021 at 10:32 AM (#6020369)
The odds have to be very high that this record is wrong. Going all the way back to 1871, multiple players have to have been missed or double-counted.
   17. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 23, 2021 at 01:54 PM (#6020408)
99.9999% that Godoy isn't exactly 20k.
   18. JJ1986 Posted: May 23, 2021 at 02:23 PM (#6020421)
Can a resumption of a suspended game change the record? I think players debuts count on the date the game started.
   19. Kiko Sakata Posted: May 23, 2021 at 06:31 PM (#6020469)
And does this 20,000 count include NgL players?


The 20,000 does not include Negro League players. It does, however, include players in the National Association, which MLB does not actually recognize as having been "major-league" baseball. Based on his recent tweets, I don't believe that MLB's official historian, John Thorn, agrees with the headline here.
   20. The Honorable Ardo Posted: May 23, 2021 at 08:22 PM (#6020482)
Godoy's "feat" reminds me of the late Bob Watson scoring the "millionth run" ahead of Dave Concepcion, who sprinted around the bases after a solo homer in a futile attempt to catch Watson. That was almost certainly wrong as well.

No word, alas, on whether Godoy won any Tootsie Rolls!
   21. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: May 24, 2021 at 12:33 AM (#6020530)
Dave Concepcion, who sprinted around the bases after a solo homer


I was surprised to find that Dave had actually hit 101 homers in his career. If I had to guess, I would've thought he'd be in the Belanger/Foli class of slugging and have only about 30 homers.

Needless to say, the 1,000,000th run thing was never going to be accurate.
   22. Doug Jones threw harder than me Posted: May 24, 2021 at 12:49 AM (#6020533)
Speaking of Tim Foli, I am surprised that Rob Wilfong had 39 career home runs. I wonder how many of those were inside-the-park?
   23. Howie Menckel Posted: May 24, 2021 at 01:18 AM (#6020535)
The odds have to be very high that this record is wrong.

spoiler alert: I, and anyone, can definitively tell you that this is not the 20,000th player in MLB.

the error bar has dropped by a vast margin in the last 50 years. this might not be off by more than 10 or 20 players, and quite possibly not off by more than 50.

yes, the Watson 1,000,000th run was not accurate, either.

it is sort of charming, in a childlike way, that we want to pretend otherwise. so maybe I'll just play along.
   24. TomH Posted: May 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM (#6020559)
If the estimate of # of players is off by about 1%, then perhaps the odds that Godoy was precisely 20K are 1 in 400. I'll take the bet offered in #17!
   25. sunday silence (again) Posted: May 24, 2021 at 11:29 AM (#6020564)
spoiler alert: I, and anyone, can definitively tell you that this is not the 20,000th player in MLB.


can you elaborate on what you're saying here? Cause Im not sure Im getting it.

Are there 100% certain known instances of players being double counted? But you have no idea of how many?
   26. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: May 24, 2021 at 11:33 AM (#6020566)
Conversation at MLB headquarters...

Manfred: "So we definitely can't have it be Tebow?"

Underling: "No, he's back to playing football now."

Manfred: "Ah, screw it. Just give it to the next guy who gets called up then."
   27. bunyon Posted: May 24, 2021 at 11:34 AM (#6020567)
All culture is just agreed upon fiction. If records come to light that show a double count or a missed player, make the adjustment. Otherwise, the list is the list and Godoy is 20,000.

Is the count accurate to one? Probably not.

But it's our count. If I ask you to rank HR hitters, you do it with the lists at BRef. You don't go comb through box scores.
   28. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: May 24, 2021 at 11:36 AM (#6020568)
When they make the documentary about this occasion and its place in baseball history, I assume they'll call it "Waiting for Godoy."

I'll show myself out.
   29. phredbird Posted: May 24, 2021 at 08:22 PM (#6020627)

only on BBTF would anyone get this wrapped around the axle about whether or not godoy is actually the 20,000th player in MLB history.

i think it would be really cool if he wore '20K' as his uni number.

   30. Howie Menckel Posted: May 25, 2021 at 01:08 AM (#6020702)
can you elaborate on what you're saying here? Cause Im not sure Im getting it.

Are there 100% certain known instances of players being double counted?

there are double-counted players, and uncounted players.

we've come a long way. if someone wants to make a definitive claim of exactly how many players have appeared in an MLB game in the last 50 years, that number could be right.

I wouldn't be surprised if a painstaking audit had the number being off by a handful, but it would be close.

but 1871 (or 1876) and the 50 years after that?

not so much. we have made good progress, for sure. but nobody alive can tell us if this similarly-spelled player who appeared on the second day of a series in 1883 was really the same guy, or a brother, or someone different.

and that's ok. as I said, maybe I'll just play along. there seems to be a primal desire to pin down an exact number. why fight it?

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