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Wednesday, March 13, 2019

Mariners’ Felix Hernandez has reason to be upset, but he also has an opportunity | The Seattle Times

When will they just release him?

These weren’t scorched-earth reactions that will drive an immediate wedge between Hernandez, his teammates and Servais. Regardless of the $27 million Felix will receive in this final year of his contract, everyone understands that regression still hurts.

In the past five years, Hernandez’s ERA has ballooned from 2.14, to 3.53, to 3.82, to 4.36 to 5.55. Throw in the seven earned runs he allowed in three innings Sunday, and a 2019 resurgence seems closer to impossible than it does improbable.

Jim Furtado Posted: March 13, 2019 at 09:26 AM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Howie Menckel Posted: March 13, 2019 at 09:49 AM (#5822345)
yes, a bad spring training outing in mid-March pretty much ends his 2019 chances (not that I expect better than a 4.00 ERA).
   2. Jim Furtado Posted: March 13, 2019 at 11:42 AM (#5822406)
He was a great pitcher for a long time. We have over a year of evidence that says he is now a below replacement level pitcher. In his three appearances this spring he's shown nothing to suggest he's on a verge of making adjustments that will help him compete.

If you are suggesting we need more time to evaluate him, what makes you think he'll be an above replacement level pitcher going forward? What has he done that suggests an adjustment breakthrough is coming? Unless your goal is to improve your draft position, why keep him around?

In my mind, he has two more weeks to show **something**. Otherwise, the Mariners should thank him for his time with their team and move on.

   3. PepTech Posted: March 13, 2019 at 11:51 AM (#5822409)
There's been a lot of nattering on local radio about the difference in attitude between Kyle Seager and Felix Hernandez. The former responded to a bad year last year by changing his workout routine, his swing, basically his body type, came in with determination, all that. Whereas Felix didn't appear to have picked up a ball since last fall and more or less figured "hey, I'm Felix" would get him through. Problem is, his fastball tapers off to the high 80s after an inning or two, and he won't seem to admit it.

Given the weird early schedule, it's tough to know when he'll pitch. It's easy to say he'll be jettisoned if he can't keep it under 5.00, but 1) who else do they have to throw in there, and B) it's not like the front office cares about 2019 anyway. Might as well let his tired arm eat up innings for you, since you're paying him anyway, than to hurry a prospect like Sheffield and risk screwing *that* up.
   4. aberg Posted: March 13, 2019 at 11:55 AM (#5822412)
Given the weird early schedule, it's tough to know when he'll pitch. It's easy to say he'll be jettisoned if he can't keep it under 5.00, but 1) who else do they have to throw in there, and B) it's not like the front office cares about 2019 anyway. Might as well let his tired arm eat up innings for you, since you're paying him anyway, than to hurry a prospect like Sheffield and risk screwing *that* up.


His name still carries weight with casual fans. I bet they sold a meaningful number of additional tickets when he started last year over anyone but Paxton. Like you said, it's not like there are better guys beating down the door, so you might as well get something out of that contract.
   5. SoSH U at work Posted: March 13, 2019 at 11:57 AM (#5822414)
There's been a lot of nattering on local radio about the difference in attitude between Kyle Seager and Felix Hernandez. The former responded to a bad year last year by changing his workout routine, his swing, basically his body type, came in with determination, all that.


Well, I hope he's learned his lesson.
   6. bfan Posted: March 13, 2019 at 12:36 PM (#5822429)
yes, a bad spring training outing in mid-March pretty much ends his 2019 chances (not that I expect better than a 4.00 ERA).


That, and that 4 year progression identified above, where he goes from excellent to dreadful, stopping off at good, bad and terrible along the way.

Aren't we over the "spring training means nothing" clichés now? I thought someone had done a study, and basically found that some spring training stats are meaningful. Basically, Mookie Betts struggling in the spring means nothing, because he is physically about the same guy who just scorched the league, and he has the skills and knowledge to know what it takes to succeed during the regular season. An aging guy who is getting progressively worse and losing his fastball, going into spring having to prove something because he lost his rotation spot, who cannot get anybody out in the spring? That probably means something.
   7. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: March 13, 2019 at 01:50 PM (#5822469)
   8. Baseballs Most Beloved Figure Posted: March 13, 2019 at 02:32 PM (#5822496)
He has no reason to be upset. Don't need to read TFA.
   9. The Run Fairy Posted: March 13, 2019 at 04:48 PM (#5822553)
His name still carries weight with casual fans. I bet they sold a meaningful number of additional tickets when he started last year over anyone but Paxton


This is a terrible way to do things, but Felix's starts averaged 28,977 fans per game in Seattle last year, and the Mariners averaged 28,389 per game. But that's improved a bit by the 47,149 who saw him pitch opening day. If you ignore that game, he's at 27,679, and that still includes Ohtani's first appearance at Safeco as a pitcher. That game also drew more than 40,000.

FWIW:

Paxton had 28,770.
LeBlanc 28,630
Leake 28,329
Gonzales 26,319
Eraso Ramirez 32,920
Roenis Elias 35,613
   10. "RMc", the superbatsman Posted: March 13, 2019 at 08:03 PM (#5822613)
Felix had 50 WAR by age 29 (that's 7th among expansion-era pitchers, behind Clemens, Blyleven, Kershaw, Seaver, Pedro and Maddux) and seemed to be a probable Hall of Famer. Then he just fell off the table.

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