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Sunday, June 02, 2019

Mariners Reportedly Looking to Sell

The Mariners, who’ve gone a staggering 12-33 after a 13-2 start in which the club made its fans forget the cavernous dimensions of T-Mobile Park, are “deep in sell mode,” tweets MLB Network’s Jon Heyman, who lists Edwin Encarnacion, Ryon Healy, Dee Gordon, Mike Leake and Tim Beckham among the players the club is “talking” about.

None in the group seem likely to net a significant return – the 36-year-old Encarnacion may be the most attractive piece, despite the some $18MM remaining on his contract – though it’s possible GM Jerry DiPoto would simply like to clear space for younger players. One feather in Encarnacion’s (and the Mariners’) cap is his renewed vigor in the infield: the one-time third-baseman is on pace for the most first-base innings in his fifteen-year career, and has thus far been surprisingly adequate at the position, per both DRS and UZR.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 02, 2019 at 08:10 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Baldrick Posted: June 02, 2019 at 08:16 AM (#5847532)
I am a deeply pessimistic Mariners fan, but even I didn't expect the collapse to come this fast and be this drastic. Based on the hot start, I figured they could stay above .500 for at least a couple months, maybe through the ASB. They didn't even make it til mid-May.
   2. Walt Davis Posted: June 02, 2019 at 09:04 AM (#5847539)
They are giving up 6 runs a game. That's just staggering.

EE's defense at 1B shouldn't be that big of a surprise. In Tor, he was nearly there half his games every season. He has about 3 full seasons worth of innings there and is put at -19 which is far from atrocious especially given half of that was when he was first learning the position. Anyway, over the previous 5 years, he had 258 starts there and was -7 Rfield, not a big deal.

Depending on cost, I could see the Cubs being interested in either Gordon or Beckham (dump Descalso). Oof, Gordon has another year left on that contract so that's a lot of contract for Seattle to eat. Sheesh, Beckham won't even be an FA yet until after next season, they should be able to get decent return for him.

Looking at their roster and ... Tommy Milone of the career 6.6 K/9 has struck out 19 in 15 innings.

Anyway, back when they wre 13-2, they had a 117-75 run differential. So socring nearly 8 while giving up 5. In the 12-33 bit, they'v scored 186 (a bit over 4) and given up 290 (about 6.5). The Rox had a sillyball season (1999) in which they gave up 6.35 r/g, their only season over 6.
   3. Captain Supporter Posted: June 02, 2019 at 09:14 AM (#5847540)
it’s possible GM Jerry DiPoto would simply like to clear space for younger players.


I'm thinking its time for the Mariners to clear space for a new GM.
   4. bookbook Posted: June 02, 2019 at 10:41 AM (#5847544)
No GM is as fun as Turntable Jerry.
   5. It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out Posted: June 02, 2019 at 01:30 PM (#5847553)
Ahhh, damn. For a second I thought Nintendo et. al. were finally ready to fire themselves.
   6. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: June 02, 2019 at 03:02 PM (#5847566)
I guess it's begun, because word (according to MLBTR) is that they've traded Jay Bruce to Philadelphia.

Bruce seems have turned into a TTO type of player.
   7. It's regretful that PASTE was able to get out Posted: June 02, 2019 at 03:20 PM (#5847571)
Bruce seems have turned into a TTO type of player.


Who hasn't, these past few years?
   8. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: June 02, 2019 at 05:45 PM (#5847632)
Sure, but with Bruce, how much is intentional and how much is just deterioration.

Anyway, apparently Seattle's sending a ton of cash along with Bruce:
the Mariners will acquire minor league infielder Jake Scheiner from Philadelphia, while the Phillies will receive about $18MM from Seattle to cover the majority of Bruce’s remaining salary.

   9. Davo Posted: June 02, 2019 at 05:59 PM (#5847634)
This site lists Scheiner as Philly’s 45th best prospect.

Scheiner was one of the best hitters in the South Atlantic League, especially in the second half. He also is a corner bat who was a 22 year old 4th round pick, so he should have performed well at this level. He will need to show success against higher level competition before there is any sort of certainty about his MLB role.

...Scheiner should open with the (Hi-A) Clearwater Threshers at a position to be determined. He has shown to be comfortable moving between third, first, and left field and it is not unreasonable that he eventually sees time in right field. If he hits in Florida like he did in the second half of 2018, he could be in (AA) Reading before midseason.
ETA: 2021
   10. Walt Davis Posted: June 02, 2019 at 09:30 PM (#5847677)
Quoting myself in the other thread:

Looks like the Ms get about $6 M of salary relief. $6 M for >1.5 seasons of Bruce as a bench corner OF/1B/DH is reasonable enough.

And so far this year, Scheiner is hitting around team/league average at A+ so his stock may be falling.

   11. Bote Man Posted: June 03, 2019 at 08:37 AM (#5847747)
Anyway, apparently Seattle's sending a ton of cash along with Bruce:

Why is there never enough money to do the job right the first time, but always a bottomless pit of money for the EMERGENCY FIX??
   12. bookbook Posted: June 03, 2019 at 09:52 AM (#5847755)
Bote Man, that happens, but doesn’t seem to really apply to this case. Taking Bruce’s $24 million salary was part of the price to the M’s of getting out from under $120 million owed to Cano (net savings about $80 million). By sending $18 million to Philly, Seattle saves $3.5-6 million more (depending on Source). Seattle isn’t throwing money at an emergency fix.
   13. . Posted: June 03, 2019 at 09:58 AM (#5847758)
Cano was the emergency fix.

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