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Thursday, December 19, 2019

Marlins agree to minor league deal with former Dodgers All-Star Matt Kemp

Still looking for answers offensively, the Miami Marlins are hoping they’ve found a reclamation project who can help contribute in the outfield.

The Marlins have agreed to a minor league contract with former Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder Matt Kemp, a source confirmed to the South Florida Sun Sentinel. A three-time All-Star, Kemp will receive an invitation to major league spring training and have an opportunity to make the team.

Kemp met with team officials last week during the MLB Winter Meetings in San Diego.

The deal reunites Kemp, 35, with former manager Don Mattingly. The Marlins skipper coached Kemp for four seasons (2011-14) in Los Angeles during his previous stint as the Dodgers manager.

Mind you, the Marlins being the Marlins, promotion to the majors might not be particularly difficult…..

 

QLE Posted: December 19, 2019 at 01:38 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: December 19, 2019 at 11:04 AM (#5909870)
Kemp in 2011: 8.0 WAR
Kemp in the eight years since: 4.2 WAR. No, that's not an average, that's total...and that includes the 2.8 WAR he logged in 2012!

He reminds me of Ryan Howard, who had lotsa HR and RBI but did absolutely nothing else...hell, he hit 35 homers in 2016 but was only barely above replacement level (0.2 WAR). That's what happens when you don't get on base, can't run and play crummy defense. (Kemp actually had a negative WAR from 2015-19, for which he was paid approximately the GDP of Kazakhstan.)
   2. zachtoma Posted: December 19, 2019 at 03:07 PM (#5910032)
Kemp was a great athlete in his prime even if he was stretched as a centerfielder. His injury at Coors in 2012, running into the wall, really took a toll - he had been on pace for an even better season than 2011 until that point - and I think he's been dealing with arthritis in his hips ever since, which really robbed him of his foot-speed. He was talking openly about going for a 40-40 season in 2012 and then it all ended in a moment. I think his hamstring injury came first but the Coors incident was more serious.

He's a tough guy, he's been through a lot and he sacrificed his body for this game, much respect.
   3. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: December 19, 2019 at 04:04 PM (#5910050)
It's hard to respect somebody who's being paid nine figures to lose ballgames.
   4. Jeff Frances the Mute Posted: December 19, 2019 at 05:00 PM (#5910057)
It's hard to respect somebody who's being paid nine figures to lose ballgames.

It seems unlikely that this minor league deal with the Marlins is going to earn Kemp more than 7 figures at most.
   5. Mayor Blomberg Posted: December 19, 2019 at 07:09 PM (#5910068)
It's hard to respect somebody who's being paid nine figures to lose ballgames.


Hey, if that's what someone wanted to pay him for.
   6. SoSH U at work Posted: December 19, 2019 at 07:12 PM (#5910069)
It seems unlikely that this minor league deal with the Marlins is going to earn Kemp more than 7 figures at most.'


He was probably counting the two figures on the other side of the decimal point. You know the Marlins do.


   7. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: December 19, 2019 at 10:40 PM (#5910097)
I remember thinking that he should have won the 2011 MVP award. In retrospect maybe it should have gone to a pitcher, but anyone who might have been a legitimate MVP was a very impressive baseball player.
   8. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: December 20, 2019 at 07:59 AM (#5910117)
It's hard to respect somebody who's being paid nine figures to lose ballgames.
If he works hard and makes a real effort to win, why not respect him? It's hard to respect the Marlins as they assemble a team built to lose, but you should respect the individual players so long as they're trying to win.
   9. PreservedFish Posted: December 20, 2019 at 09:07 AM (#5910122)
I remember watching a Dodgers loss in 2011 where Kemp had 3 or 4 hits, hit a homer, stole a base, made some nice plays in CF. The Dodgers were a .500 team around then but it was pretty much Kemp, Kershaw and nuttin. Kemp had this look on his face during the entire game that communicated distaste and contempt, as if he was disgusted by his own obvious superiority.
   10. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 20, 2019 at 11:29 AM (#5910151)

#3 is nuts and probably just trolling. I respect Kemp's ability/effort even if he hasn't lived up to his contracts.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: December 21, 2019 at 05:17 PM (#5910337)
(In case it's necessary, I respect Kemp. He and the Dodgers freely entered into an agreement that guaranteed him a salary regardless of health and performance. The contract required him to play to the best of his ability and act responsibly with regard to his health and, to our knowledge, he did those things. There's nothing to disrespect in someone of tremendous talent losing their talent.)

On Kemp, injury, decline, etc. ... in the 3.5 seasons before his big breakout, he had a 115 OPS+ and 9 WAR. He'd been below-replacement in the year before his big breakout -- granted, that was atrocious Rfield which is not really believable (-37) but it was also just a 106 OPS+, nothing special. In the roughly 3 full years (over 4 seasons) of play after the big breakout, he put up a 126 OPS+ and 5 WAR (again crushed by defense, 11 oWAR).

If you just take the before and after, it looks like a standard career of a solid bat corner OF with a standard peak around age 27. For example, over ages 25-31, Pat Burrell put up a 122 OPS+ in 4300 PA with indifferent corner defense totalling 15 WAR and -6 dWAR. Our no-peak Kemp would be about a 121 OPS+ in 4300 PA with 14 WAR and -9 dWAR. Adjust for some questionable Rfield numbers and bring him back to -6 dWAR, bringing him up to about 17 WAR.

We only get to run the experiment once and the age 27 injuries might have been responsible for derailing a guy who had transformed from a good to an outstanding hitter .... or he was a 2.5 WAR corner OF playing out of position who had one monster year out of nowhere. And even if the injury did have long-term effects, it's hard to see him being better than, say, Kevin Mitchell who was a very good hitter for about 8 years but not somebody that generally leads to much "what if" speculation. (KM 24-32, 4200 PA, 146 OPS+, 29 WAR, -6 dWAR, monster age-27 MVP season with 192 OPS+, league-leading HR/RBI/OPS.)

Anyway, something in the range of Pat Burrell plus one huge season to Kevin Mitchell with an earlier start.
   12. Tin Angel Posted: December 21, 2019 at 06:11 PM (#5910345)
Looks like the Marlins are entering win now mode.

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