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Friday, December 09, 2011
Mr. Lazear, for the good of the universe, please return Gray’s Sports Almanac to Dr. Brown. Thank you. With $191MM committed to Jose Reyes, Mark Buehrle, and Heath Bell, Marlins fans can’t complain about their offseason so far. Only one of the 5,020 entrants in MLBTR’s free agent prediction contest, Matthew Lazear, correctly guessed in November that the Marlins would sign all three. However, it’s interesting to note that the Marlins also made the highest bids on top free agents Albert Pujols and C.J. Wilson, who ultimately went to the Angels today.
Pujols received ten years and $254MM from the Angels, but Bob Nightengale of USA Today says the Marlins offered ten years and $275MM…
Said Wilson: “But if it were just about money I’d be a Marlin, straight up, because they offered more money, they have a great situation.”
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1. Shock has moved on Posted: December 09, 2011 at 03:54 AM (#4011130)So does Lazear win Albert's money?
Ah right, that's why they refused to give no-trade clauses.
Bob Nightengale wrote that a "mystery team" that was NOT the Angels offered Pujols 10/$225 and they refuse to be identified further adding intrigue. WHODUNIT?
No wonder they couldn't afford to pay for their ####### bullpark. Jesus on a stick with mustard.
I just read an article that claimed that "a phantom period of approximately 300 years has been inserted between 600 AD to 900 AD... the entire Carolingian period, including the person of Charlemagne, is a forgery of medieval chroniclers, more precisely a conspiracy instigated by Otto III and Gerbert d'Aurillac.” That theory, as batshit insane as it sounds, still seems more plausible to me than the Marlins offering Pujols 10 years and 275 million dollars.
I need to know the answer to this.
There is a Russian crackpot that has written a huge tome based on the idea that the entire history before the first crusade is a medieval forgery and that said crusade was launched as a direct response to the execution of Jesus. A 300 year phantom period seems rather unambitious in comparison.
As for your question, both, I think. Either Otto II or Constantine VII fudged the dates (either accidentally or maliciously) and historians just filled in the blanks / invented stuff.
This probably is my favourite conspiracy theory ever just for the sheer weirdness of it all.
The Holy Roman Empire was actually holy, Roman, and an empire.
Ask David Icke - he knows. It's lizard men all the way down.
I thought it was assumed to be Patrick Ewing.
I though everybody knew that Otto II and Constantine VII were the same person.
Templars and Aliens.
Jesus and Hebrews coming to America. Duh.
The NBA lottery has had enough "interesting" stuff going on over the years that the conspiracy theories are almost accepted as fact it seems.
And I don't know why the 10/275 offer from the Marlins is so implausible. They were throwing money around like drunken sailors this week and if we believe they were offering 10/225 or something of that ilk I don't know why $5 million per year is so unreasonable.
Isn't that coming out in theatres in a couple weeks?
It's not just a theory, there's a video on youtube. It's not perfectly clear, but you can make a plausible case that the person who puts the Knicks envelope in the drum bangs it against the drum, making a crease. Then Stern goes fishing for the Knicks envelope, passing up a couple others on the way.
There's just enough there to be plausible, in my opinion, but not anywhere neared proved.
I need to know the answer to this.
Yes. I expect an answer by January 1, 1712.
It's not just a theory, there's a video on youtube. It's not perfectly clear, but you can make a plausible case that the person who puts the Knicks envelope in the drum bangs it against the drum, making a crease. Then Stern goes fishing for the Knicks envelope, passing up a couple others on the way.
There is nothing there. Are people simply overlooking the fact that the drum was spun around several times? If placing an envelope in the drum the way they do is going to create some marking that can be used to identify the envelope then what do people think is going to happen when you spin the drum? Secondly Stern didn't pass over any other envelopes or go fishing for the envelope. It is in his hand from the beginning. He grabs three envelopes, flips the bundle over, and takes the top one. The envelope wasn't even visible before he flipped it over. If anything it lends more credence to the belief that the envelope was frozen than it does to anything else that was suggested.
10, 27, 27, 27, 27, 27, 27, 27, 27, 27, with 31 million deferred to a later date.
in this case, if the marlins intention was to trade him after the first year (as they did with carlos delgado), that no-trade clause does have a value--$265 million--and that value is exactly the reason that, no matter what pujols gave up in the negotiations, the no-trade clause was entirely off the table.
i could be wrong...but i doubt it.
* Heh. Little.
This sort of thing seems popular among history crackpots. I once read a detailed book that argued that the same thing had occurred in early Mesopotamian History. So that Sargon of Akkad and the Assyrian King Sargon II were the same person, Ur-Nammu was actually Nebuchadnezzar, etc. In short, 1500 years had been accidentally inserted because historians didn't realize that kings went by different names in different contexts.
When I read that, the first thing that occurred to me was "wouldn't this have to mean that Egyptian chronology was equally mixed-up?" because of course Egyptian records mention many of the same kings. The only mention of this was a single footnote that said something to the effect of 'if this is true then it would suggest the Pyramids, etc. have also been misdated".
Doesn't carbon dating pretty much flush this theory down the toilet right out of the gate. I thought 1 SD on 3000 years was supposed to be 30 years. If we were missing 300 years worth of history, we would have a whole bunch of artefacts that wouldn't align with the right periods...
I love this site. God help me, I do love it so.
How does this make the no-trade clause worth $265 million?
IOW, just a few more make-believe centuries and the Shroud of Turin would be real.
Yes, along with a lot of other chronological correlates. The answer they give is that radiocarbon dating is calibrated by dendrochronology, and dendrochronology is calibrated by the erroneous historical records. There's a germ of truth to that, but only enough for them to misunderstand the whole chronological framework of ancient and medieval history.
We have coins of Charlemagne, for Christ's sake!
IOW, just a few more make-believe centuries and the Shroud of Turin would be real.
There's a great "Secrets of the Dead" documentary on the Shroud. Turns out the carbon-dating sample may have been taken from an area tainted by damage and medieval repairs.
There's lots of interesting evidence presented both ways, i.e. some suggesting it's real, some suggesting it's fake.
The Sudarium of Oviedo has a much stronger provenance, and is claimed to be the face cloth from the Crucifixion.
My favorite part was the "etc."
We're talking about a massive conspiracy to invent three centuries of fake history, and you're hung up on a handful of fake coins?
We're talking about a massive conspiracy to invent three centuries of fake history, and you're hung up on a handful of fake coins?
Were the Chinese in on it too?
I said massive, didn't I? Anyway, that's sort of my point. If 600-900 AD never really happened, then you'd expect to run into some serious problems with aligning eastern and western histories. That would seem to be a much bigger issue than faking a handful of artifacts.
Looks like someone didn't read the link in #14.
Sure, but why bother, it's not like any of these theories have many adherents. It would be too kind to dignify them with a debunking.
You seem to be assuming that this place called China actually exists. Now watch as some of the conspirators show up and claim to be from this "China" as you call it. Some people will actually claim to be there now. It's all a bunch of nonsense.
I'd like to have your problems sit. I'm a programmer. You thought Y2K was bad?
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