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Tuesday, November 12, 2019

Meanwhile, on the cold, cold Hot Stove . . .

It’s Hot Stove Season baby! You know what that means! Yep: time to watch some teams sign a few relievers to minor league deals and then wait everyone out until February while talking about the need to maintain financial flexibility! FEEL THE BURN.

In more specific news:

John Morosi of MLB Network reports that, based on his conversations with front office folks, either Mookie Betts, Francisco Lindor or Kris Bryant are expected to be traded this winter.

We’ve talked a lot about Betts this winter already, and that seems like madness. Bryant’s career with the Cubs began with business-side acrimony, it’s still simmering, and there is no sense that either side is amenable to a long-term deal before he hits free agency. The Indians have been signaling for some time that they have no interest in keeping Lindor long term.

Open thread, for any thoughts concerning transactions.

QLE Posted: November 12, 2019 at 12:38 AM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: attendance, francisco lindor, free agency, hot stove, kris bryant, mookie betts

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   1. Walt Davis Posted: November 12, 2019 at 12:55 AM (#5900514)
1. I don't see how Bryant can be traded until his grievance is ruled on. I suspect we all agree it's very unlikely he'd be declared an FA a year early but it seems like the sort of thing another team needs guaranteed before trading for him.

2. I can understand Cleveland has no interest in paying Lindor anything like what he's worth but no interest in keeping him long-term? Madness.

   2. PreservedFish Posted: November 12, 2019 at 10:14 AM (#5900550)
I wonder if any owner will say \"#### it" and make an instant superteam by collecting these guys like Betts and Lindor that apparently nobody wants to pay.
   3. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: November 12, 2019 at 12:47 PM (#5900590)
wainwright to re-up. (no terms available)
   4. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: November 12, 2019 at 12:59 PM (#5900594)
...either Mookie Betts, Francisco Lindor or Kris Bryant are expected to be traded this winter.
The way this unfortunate scentence is written, it seems that only one of Betts, Bryant, and Lindor needs to be traded. So if the Cubs move Bryant, it means that Boston/Cleveland won't have to trade away Betts/Lindor.
   5. Nasty Nate Posted: November 12, 2019 at 01:12 PM (#5900596)
I don't get this recent expectation that the offseason is supposed to entertain us with fireworks and turmoil. It's like there's some collective revisionism that past offseasons were a rollicking good time for fans, but have recently turned boring.
   6. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: November 12, 2019 at 01:41 PM (#5900599)
I wonder if any owner will say \"#### it" and make an instant superteam by collecting these guys like Betts and Lindor that apparently nobody wants to pay.


The Reds have a bunch of money to spend and seem keen on giving up future pieces for the present... Somehow trade for those 2 guys, sign Grandal...

Betts CF
Votto 1b
Eugenio 3b
Lindor SS
Grandal C
Winker LF
Senzel 2b
Aquino RF

That would be sweet
   7. bbmck Posted: November 12, 2019 at 01:51 PM (#5900601)
Highest 2019 position or pitching WAR in 5th or 6th season that haven't signed a long term contract with position shuffling based on best guesses if they were on same team:

C: JT Realmuto 4.4
C: James McCann 3.8
2B: Corey Seager 4.0
3B: Nick Ahmed 4.5
SS: Francisco Lindor 4.7

1B/DH: Mark Canha 4.5
1B/DH: Jorge Soler 3.7
CF: Mookie Betts 6.8
LF/RF: George Springer 6.2
LF/RF: Javier Baez 4.8

Bench: Tommy Pham 3.7, Kris Bryant 3.6, Michael Conforto 3.5

SP: Eduardo Rodriguez 6.0
SP: Hyun-Jin Ryu 5.1
SP: Jon Gray 4.5
SP: Marcus Stroman 4.4
SP: Zack Wheeler 3.5

RP: Brandon Workman 3.2
RP: Kirby Yates 2.8
RP: Hansel Robles 2.6
   8. Stevey Posted: November 12, 2019 at 03:20 PM (#5900618)
I don't get this recent expectation that the offseason is supposed to entertain us with fireworks and turmoil. It's like


Owners have successfully convinced us that being good just isn't worth spending the money and payroll as a percentage of revenue has dropped.

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