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Friday, May 27, 2022

Memorial Day Weekend OMNICHATTER, for May 27 - 31, 2022

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   1. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM (#6078666)
Hey, we haven't had a trivia question in a while, and I noticed that Bill James listed the home run leader for each decade in his New Historical Baseball Abstract. Can you name the man who hit the most homers for each decade of the 20th century? I'll make it easy and spot you Babe Ruth in the 1920s.

   2. JJ1986 Posted: May 27, 2022 at 12:22 PM (#6078669)
I'm not sure I know any of them. Guesses:

1900s: I had to lookup the name of the guy I was thinking of, so I won't put it down.
1910: Home Run Baker
1930s: Jimmie Foxx
1940s: Ted Williams? (There must be someone who didn't miss time)
1950s: Mantle
1960s: Aaron
1970s: Reggie
1980s: Mike Schmidt
1990s: Griffey
   3. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 27, 2022 at 12:26 PM (#6078670)
Foxx, Williams and Schmidt are correct.

1900s:
1910s:
1920s: Babe Ruth
1930s: Jimmie Foxx
1940s: Ted Williams
1950s:
1960s:
1970s:
1980s: Mike Schmidt
1990s:
   4. The Duke Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:08 PM (#6078676)
With a little luck the Reds could exit the MLB basement this weekend. Probably won't happen but they are slowly recovering from a horrid start
   5. The Duke Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:11 PM (#6078677)
Mays for 1960s. Bench or Morgan for 1970s?
   6. The Duke Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:12 PM (#6078678)
McGwire for 90s?
   7. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:14 PM (#6078679)
Mays, Bench and Morgan are all incorrect, but McGwire is indeed right for the 1990s.
   8. Tyhand7 Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:21 PM (#6078681)
Killebrew 60's. Stargell 70's?
   9. Tyhand7 Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:22 PM (#6078682)
Cobb 00?
   10. zenstudent Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:26 PM (#6078684)
The 1950s is Eddie Matthews. I remember that after drafting him for an APBA league starting with the 50s a few years ago.
   11. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:32 PM (#6078686)
Killebrew and Stargell are correct. Cobb and Mathews are not.
   12. oscar madisox Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:32 PM (#6078687)
The 10s is probably Gavvy Cravath, assuming so because he led his league in HR's just about every year.
   13. The Mighty Quintana Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:33 PM (#6078688)
Home Run Baker for the 10's? Cap Anson for the 00's?
   14. Cris E Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:38 PM (#6078690)
Cy Williams for the 10s?
   15. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 27, 2022 at 01:46 PM (#6078691)
Cravath is correct for the 1910s
   16. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 27, 2022 at 02:01 PM (#6078693)
We've got them all except the 1900s and the 1950s. The 1950s guy is a Hall of Famer, but the 1900s guy is probably going to need some clues.

1900s:
1910s: Gavvy Cravath
1920s: Babe Ruth
1930s: Jimmie Foxx
1940s: Ted Williams
1950s:
1960s: Harmon Killebrew
1970s: Willie Stargell
1980s: Mike Schmidt
1990s: Mark McGwire


   17. The Duke Posted: May 27, 2022 at 02:12 PM (#6078696)
I give up after this - Duke Snider ?
   18. Mefisto Posted: May 27, 2022 at 02:13 PM (#6078697)
Duke Snider and Sherry Magee
   19. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 27, 2022 at 02:19 PM (#6078698)
Duke Snider is correct! That only leaves the 1900s guy, who led the AL in homers every year from 1904 to 1907, with a grand total of 38. Despite that, and despite being a starter on three World Series teams, he's not in the Hall of Fame.
   20. The Duke Posted: May 27, 2022 at 03:05 PM (#6078699)
I count 7 guys who made the top 10 in a decade twice for the same time periods.

Any ideas who the 7 are (if I missed someone I'm sure I'll be corrected quickly )

I had 8 but Pujols is out of the range.
   21. The Mighty Quintana Posted: May 27, 2022 at 05:48 PM (#6078720)
Ed Delahanty?
   22. Howie Menckel Posted: May 27, 2022 at 07:00 PM (#6078724)
CINCINNATI — Cincinnati Reds outfielder Tommy Pham and San Francisco Giants outfielder Joc Pederson were involved in a brief altercation before Friday’s series opener at Great American Ball Park.

While the Giants were warming up in the outfield, Pham confronted Pederson in the outfield during pregame warmups. The pair quickly were separated and no punches were thrown.

The incident was witnessed by reporters and occurred before fans entered the ballpark.

“We’re investigating it and learning as much as we can about the incident,” Giants manager Gabe Kapler said. “We’re taking it very seriously. Until we have a clear understanding of what happened, not willing to discuss it.”
   23. JJ1986 Posted: May 27, 2022 at 07:19 PM (#6078725)
Pham seems to have problems with quite a lot of different people.
   24. I don't want to talk about Rocco Posted: May 27, 2022 at 08:01 PM (#6078726)
Harry Davis. Only reason I know is because of watching a baseball trivia session at HOF and super cocky old guy didn’t get this answer and argued with HOF person asking questions that the answer was not Harry Davis
   25. Howie Menckel Posted: May 27, 2022 at 08:01 PM (#6078727)
Phillies just plunked a 59th Met in the last 4 1/2 years - by far the most times than any team has HBP'd a rival.

Mets are up 3-0 - the Phillies defense, yeah, it's bad - and will take the runner.
   26. Walt Davis Posted: May 27, 2022 at 08:02 PM (#6078728)
Carlos Martinez suspended 80 games for PEDs. He's in the minors right now so no substantial impact.
   27. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 27, 2022 at 08:04 PM (#6078729)
Gleyber Torres HR (#8) to left-center (438 feet) puts the Yankees up 1-0 @ Rays. And while I slowly type, Matt Carpenter goes deep to right, his 1st as a Yankee, making it 2-0.
   28. Walt Davis Posted: May 27, 2022 at 08:18 PM (#6078730)
The Cubs not playing this Friday. Tough travel all the way from Cinci. Then two "at" the White Sox, then back home for a day-night Memorial Day DH against the Brewers, 2 more against them, then the Cards for a 5-game series with another day-night DH on next Sat. So that's 11 games in 9 days against arguably their 3 biggest rivals. I'd put the chances of this Cubs team sweeping a double-header against anybody at near zero much less against two solid teams so they''re probably lucky if they get out of this stretch 4-7.
   29. Howie Menckel Posted: May 27, 2022 at 08:23 PM (#6078731)
Pete Alonso just murdered another meatball and it's 5-0 against WKRP in Cincinnati character Bailey Falter.

he has 44 RBI in 47 games, tying a club record for most RBI by Memorial Day set in 1996 by first-ballot HOFer Bernard Gilkey, who plated 117 runners that year because of course he did. Pete has 2 1/2 games to claim the mark for himself - and he will.
   30. Walt Davis Posted: May 27, 2022 at 08:23 PM (#6078732)
That Carpenter HR ... I know HR rates are clearly down and the ball seems to not fly so far, but it seems like every game I still see somebody not really getting good wood on the ball, hitting it at a pretty high launch angle and it going out. In the case of Carpenter's, it was several rows deep, not just over the wall. If Carpenter can hit that pitch for a HR, Gallo should have about 20 by now.
   31. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 27, 2022 at 08:48 PM (#6078735)
Yes, the last one was Harry Davis. The full list:

1900s: Harry Davis
1910s: Gavvy Cravath
1920s: Babe Ruth
1930s: Jimmie Foxx
1940s: Ted Williams
1950s: Duke Snider
1960s: Harmon Killebrew
1970s: Willie Stargell
1980s: Mike Schmidt
1990s: Mark McGwire
   32. Walt Davis Posted: May 27, 2022 at 08:56 PM (#6078736)
Wander Franco really is amazing ... he just hit 3 balls at once.
   33. Howie Menckel Posted: May 27, 2022 at 09:35 PM (#6078740)
Pete Alonso... has 44 RBI in 47 games, tying a club record for most RBI by Memorial Day


and there's the 45th RBI - and perhaps the most cherished record in all of MLB, just ahead of DiMaggio's 56-game hitting streak, has fallen on this historic night.

;)
   34. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 27, 2022 at 09:44 PM (#6078746)
Taillon had 8 scoreless innings tonight with 2 hits, no walks, 5 K's and an 83 Game Score. Holmes finished off with a perfect 9th for his 24th straight scoreless inning, with solo shots by Gleyber and Matt Carpenter providing all the runs the Yanks needed.
   35. Howie Menckel Posted: May 27, 2022 at 09:51 PM (#6078748)
Mets lead 8-6 in the 6th, runner on 3rd, 2 outs - and Alonso gets the Barry Bonds treatment with an IBB.

perhaps the 17 runs he's knocked in against the Phillies in 9 1/2 games so far in 2022 led Girardi to wave the white flag.

...............

05.27... Tommy Pham was held out of the Reds lineup on Friday night after a pregame altercation with Giants outfielder Joc Pederson.
Spin: Pham and Pederson exchanged words in the outfield during batting practice and Pham apparently slapped Pederson over a disagreement regarding a fantasy football league that the two are in together. You can't make this stuff up. MLB is investigating the incident and Pham agreed not to play on Friday pending the results of that investigation. There's a chance that he could face additional disciplinary action stemming from the fracas.
   36. The Honorable Ardo Posted: May 27, 2022 at 09:54 PM (#6078749)
Happy 54th birthday, Frank Thomas and Jeff Bagwell!

Birthday team:
1B - Bagwell
DH - Thomas

3B - Pinky Higgins
SS - Mike Caruso
2B - Yoan Moncada
C - Frank Snyder
OF - Jim Holt, Jacob Brumfield, Terry Moore
Backup C/risk in OF - Todd Hundley
Bench bat/trade candidate (played only 1B/DH in his career) - John Jaha

Starters:
Gary Nolan
Garrett Richards
Jose Berrios
Ed Crane (second-tier journeyman of the 1880's)
Miguel Gonzalez
Ross Baumgarten
Sam Thompson (Negro Leagues, 1930s)

Relievers:
Mark Clear
Brad Boxberger
Ed Nunez
Tom Hurd

Hurd is a fun story. He was a shortstop-to-pitcher conversion and a little guy even by 1950's standards (listed at 5' 9'', 155). After toiling in the high minors for years, he debuted with the 1954 Red Sox and turned in excellent relief campaigns that year and in 1955. But, after one bad year in 1956, it was back to AAA for Hurd until he retired from organized ball in 1960.
   37. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 27, 2022 at 10:00 PM (#6078750)
Pham apparently slapped Pederson over a disagreement regarding a fantasy football league that the two are in together.
Seriously? Ban them both for life.
   38. The Duke Posted: May 27, 2022 at 10:26 PM (#6078752)
At least Pham didn't get stabbed in this altercation
   39. Howie Menckel Posted: May 27, 2022 at 10:45 PM (#6078756)
more replay weirdness.

Phils get Nimmo on a rare DP groundout in the 8th, with Mets up 8-6.

Phils are out of challenges, but the crew chief suspects the call was wrong so he decides to do a crew chief review.

not sure if that makes sense - but especially because the crew chief made the call in the first place !

well, in the end they get the call right and I do like that part.

Mets TV booth says the guy is a really good ump, and this proves it - he wants a review that he is correctly convinced will prove that his own call was wrong.

I wonder if Joe West ever did that, lol - or Angel Hernandez !
   40. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 27, 2022 at 10:49 PM (#6078757)
The Red Sox, once up 6-0 on the Orioles, gave up 3 in the 7th, 3 in the 8th, and 4 in the 9th, and now trail 12-8 heading to the bottom of the 9th. Would have watched some of that, but didn’t want to bother with the Apple streaming.

EDIT: That’s the final score; probably stings a bit in Beantown.
   41. Walt Davis Posted: May 27, 2022 at 11:19 PM (#6078774)
not sure if that makes sense - but especially because the crew chief made the call in the first place !

If anything, that's the perfect time. He has to make a call in real time but he's honest enough to admit he didn't get a good look so wants to make sure afterwards. I'd be thrilled if we could rely on umps to do this (i.e. admit they could use the replay help on a play) and then get rid of team challenges altogether.
   42. Howie Menckel Posted: May 27, 2022 at 11:47 PM (#6078779)
I meant that a team doesn't have a challenge, but an ump bails them out because .....

again, in this case, the Mets announcers say he's a good ump and that he probably had a good sense that his quick-trigger reaction might be or likely was wrong.

but the next night, a crappy ump crew chief does the same thing, but is too arrogant to do anything about it. creates an uneven playing field - if an ump blows a call and realizes it, you have to hope he is a good one.

of course, the crappy umps are exactly the ones more likely to blow the call - including crappy crew chiefs.

the NFL last year took to having "New York" look very quickly at certain plays - and within seconds buzz the chief and tell him to overturn or confirm the call. no coaches challenge needed. that was a big improvement, and maybe MLB should look into that.
   43. sunday silence (again) Posted: May 28, 2022 at 12:26 AM (#6078781)

Hello Duke::


I've read this sentence like 100 times tonight:

I count 7 guys who made the top 10 in a decade twice for the same time periods.


Am dying to know what it means. thanks ss.
   44. Walt Davis Posted: May 28, 2022 at 01:20 AM (#6078783)
Crew chiefs have always (or at least since 2014 per Wiki) had the power to review a call in the 7th or later regardless of remaining manager challenges.

#43 ... stumped me too but I think I finally figured it out. The "same time periods" refers to 1900-1999. So top 10 in two different decades.
   45. Howie Menckel Posted: May 28, 2022 at 01:47 AM (#6078784)
I meant that a team doesn't have a challenge, but an ump bails them out because .....

again, in this case, the Mets announcers say he's a good ump and that he probably had a good sense that his quick-trigger reaction might or likely was wrong.

but the next night, a crappy ump crew chief does the same thing, but is too arrogant to do anything about it. creates an uneven playing field - if an ump blows a call and realizes it, you have to hope he is a good one.

of course, the crappy umps are exactly the ones more likely to blow the call - including crappy crew chiefs.

the NFL last year took to having "New York" look very quickly at certain plays - and within seconds buzz the chief and tell him to overturn or confirm the call. no coaches challenge needed. that was a big improvement, and maybe MLB should look into that.
   46. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 11:24 AM (#6078800)
I meant for the same time periods we were looking for the most HRs in a decade, which seven people finished in the top 10 twice?

My gosh - that was a terrible and my apologies
   47. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 28, 2022 at 12:25 PM (#6078802)
I'll say Ruth (20s and 30s), Gehrig (20s and 30s), Williams (40s and 50s), Mays (50s and 60s), Aaron (50s and 60s), and Schmidt (70s and 80s). I was going to add Bonds as a seventh but that would be 90s and 00s.
   48. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 12:52 PM (#6078808)
Ruth, Gehrig, Mays and Schmidt are correct.
   49. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 12:55 PM (#6078809)
I think I was off by one. I had Dave Kingman in the 70s/80s but on relooking it appears he missed thyroid top 10 in the 80s by a bit
   50. Howie Menckel Posted: May 28, 2022 at 12:57 PM (#6078810)
The Braves OF - which in 2022 consists of Ronald Acuna (when he's not hobbling) and a half-dozen dumpster fires - boosted today by callup of 21-year-old Michael Harris from AA. 5-tool kid who has been raking and was Braves' No. 1 prospect.
   51. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 28, 2022 at 02:03 PM (#6078814)
After a terrible start, there was some suggestion that age had finally caught up to DH-extraordinaire Nelson Cruz (now with the Nationals). However, after his awful April, Cruz is .315/.363/.438 in May, and .476/.500/.571 over the previous 15 days. If he keeps that up, he might generate some interest before the trade deadline.

EDIT: Cruz has a 2-RBI single & BB today, but the BIG NEWS is that light-hitting Victor Robles is 3-for-3 with 6 RBI in today's slugfest against the Rockies. Now 11-7 Nationals in 4th. Game is in DC, not Colorado, BTW.
   52. Mayor Blomberg Posted: May 28, 2022 at 02:18 PM (#6078816)
Aaron (50s and 60s)

If we start the 70s in 1970, Aaron hit more in the 70s than the 50s.

Anyone try the Mick for 50s-60s? If not, I will.
   53. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 02:43 PM (#6078820)
Mantle is number 5. One more which is the hardest
   54. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 02:44 PM (#6078821)
Nolan Gorman with the first of many MLB home runs. A no doubter in Busch which is hard to do.
   55. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 03:11 PM (#6078822)
Gorman 2 Brewers 0
   56. sunday silence (again) Posted: May 28, 2022 at 03:11 PM (#6078823)
stumped me too but I think I finally figured it out. The "same time periods" refers to 1900-1999. So top 10 in two different decades.


Yeah I woke up this morning and it seemed obvious now.

Terrible sentence, but a fantastic trivia question.

I did some peaking and "Hey" you missed Sam Thompson: 1880s and 1890s.

I was gonna guess Al Simmons, but thats wrong.

*****

Speaking of slugging this years MLB slugging is at a 30 year low: .382 or something. I think this is the lowest since 1992. It remained under .400 for much of the 1970s I was suprised to find. Also Looking at the decade by decade HR list its surprising how many less HRs in the 70s vs the 60s among the top sluggers.

EDIT: currently at .377 lowest since 1976.
   57. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 28, 2022 at 03:16 PM (#6078824)
How about Mel Ott in the 1930s and 40s?
   58. sunday silence (again) Posted: May 28, 2022 at 03:24 PM (#6078826)
the drop in .slug is perhaps the most notable. In the last three years we've lost 62 pts in .slug (if current trend holds up to the end). You have go all the way back to the war years: 1940-43 to find a similar drop in power: 66 pts. wow, power outage.
   59. sunday silence (again) Posted: May 28, 2022 at 03:25 PM (#6078827)
not Ott. keep guessing. Tom should get this.
   60. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 28, 2022 at 03:43 PM (#6078831)
Mookie holds the 21st century record for runs scored in a season, with 135 in 2019. So far this year he's scored 48 runs in 43 games, along with a 171 OPS+ and 2.7 WAR. Maybe that salary dump the Red Sox made wasn't as smart as they thought it was.
   61. phredbird Posted: May 28, 2022 at 03:52 PM (#6078832)

nolan gorman having quite a day, now just a triple short of the cycle. this on the day he hits his first major league HR.

dan pretty much has him in the HOF already. but he does have a sweet swing.
   62. phredbird Posted: May 28, 2022 at 03:59 PM (#6078838)

gorman having another kind of special day as he bobbles another ground ball, his second error of the day. mebbe he needs to go to the outfield?
   63. salvomania Posted: May 28, 2022 at 04:15 PM (#6078844)
nolan gorman having quite a day, now just a triple short of the cycle.

Surprised they gave a double on that hit to right where the RF threw home---looked like Gorman headed to second when he saw the throw.
   64. phredbird Posted: May 28, 2022 at 04:21 PM (#6078845)

it's moot. he just came up and singled.

oh wait, it's still only the sixth, he might get another AB.
   65. salvomania Posted: May 28, 2022 at 04:46 PM (#6078854)
Anyone notice the Reds have gone 12-8 since starting the season 3-22?
   66. salvomania Posted: May 28, 2022 at 04:51 PM (#6078855)
Gorman left on deck, won't get another AB to try to extend his 4-for-4 unless the Brewers rally for seven runs in the 9th.
   67. salvomania Posted: May 28, 2022 at 04:54 PM (#6078856)
unless the Brewers rally for seven runs in the 9th.

uh-oh, TJ McFarland in to start the 9th for the Cardinals..
   68. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 04:59 PM (#6078861)
Cardinals have moved three guys into the top 10-15 fWAR and bWAR lists. Goldschmidt on his hitting and Arenado mostly On offense and Edman mostly with Defense. They tend to bat 1-2-3. If the rest of the lineup can just be ok, they'll do fine this year efen with crap pitching.
   69. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 05:00 PM (#6078862)
Do I need to narrow it down to the two decades ?
   70. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 05:04 PM (#6078865)
The Tommy Pham incident was captured on tape. All over Twitter. He got off light with 3 days. What a screwed up guy
   71. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 28, 2022 at 05:07 PM (#6078869)
In news that must have been lost in the mail, Russell Martin announced his retirement. Hasn’t played since 2019.
   72. Mayor Blomberg Posted: May 28, 2022 at 05:58 PM (#6078882)
Stan Musial? He played more of the 40s than a lot of guys.
   73. Walt Davis Posted: May 28, 2022 at 07:18 PM (#6078889)
Ernie Banks might be the guy with 228 in the 50s and 269 in the 60s.
   74. Walt Davis Posted: May 28, 2022 at 07:21 PM (#6078891)
If we add the 2000s I assume Sosa gives it a good run too at 332 and 273.

It's hard for me to judge ... I have no idea what #10 in a decade might be. A lot of those guys who hit "only" 350-400 HRs would have hit 250-300 of them in a decade
   75. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 07:24 PM (#6078892)
Ernie Banks it is!!!

Well done
   76. Walt Davis Posted: May 28, 2022 at 07:28 PM (#6078893)
A little Cub blooper down the RF line that highlights one of the risks of playing the 2B on the left of 2B, giviing a 1-0 lead. Then another weird play makes it 2-0 ... I'm not sure Wisdom touched third.

Weirdo stat courtesy Fox ... 7th straight game the Cubs have taken a 2-0 lead. They are 3-3 in the previous 6 so don't panic Sox fans.
   77. Walt Davis Posted: May 28, 2022 at 10:07 PM (#6078901)
So keeping with our theme ... top 10 in HR for 2010-19 ... definitely some surprises in there.

346
335
308
290
285
285
269
268
257
255
   78. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 10:34 PM (#6078903)
Pujols has to be in there at the low end


   79. The Duke Posted: May 28, 2022 at 10:46 PM (#6078904)
Freddie freeman, trout, Harper, springer, Arenado, Goldschmidt, jd Martinez
   80. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 28, 2022 at 10:48 PM (#6078905)
Nelson Cruz.
   81. Walt Davis Posted: May 28, 2022 at 11:00 PM (#6078906)
C'mon folks, you should at least guess which total is theirs.

#78 ... if by "low end" you mean 4th

#79 ... only one of those is correct and as punishment for getting 6 of 7 wrong, I'm gonna make you guess which one :-)

#80 ... yes but where in the list would you guess?

WARNING: It's a Walt trivia question, I'm on a very different schedule. I'll be asleep when tomorrow's games start so it may be a while before your guesses are graded. If somebody wants to take over responsibility, be my guest.
   82. Walt Davis Posted: May 28, 2022 at 11:06 PM (#6078907)
Oh-oh, Kurt Suzuki badly hurt. Looked like just a bad bounce on a pitch that got under the mask but he went from being lightly helped off the field to what appeared to be unconscious by the bottom of the dugout steps. I hope it's not like that Aussie cricketer a few years ago.
   83. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 28, 2022 at 11:15 PM (#6078908)
Suzuki seemed to collapse in the dugout, and had to be supported by teammates, although I wasn’t watching carefully until cued by the change of tone by the broadcaster. Hopefully, prompt medical attention will address the situation, but it did look bad. It was an errant warm-up pitch that did him in, on the bounce I believe, which wouldn’t normally be expected to cause serious injury.

EDIT: Video of Suzuki in the dugout.
   84. Walt Davis Posted: May 28, 2022 at 11:21 PM (#6078909)
Toronto guys with a useful (well...) discussion about the 4-man OF and base coverage. Apparently last night Trout hit a dboule down the LF line and Bichette (as is common) moved twoards the ball but apparently its his responsibility to cover 2nd. So ... well Trout kept going and ended up at 3B which doesn't make sense but there you have it.

But it's interesting. If the ball is hit to that side, surely it's Vlad's responsibility to get down to 2B. On say a ground single through the hole, there's no way the SS can get back to cover 2B and everybody gets a double. And Vlad doesn't have much else to do on a play like that. (God forbid the P should cover it.)

Same issue must arise with cutoffs. If the ball is hit to RF, does Bichette have to get all the way over for the cutofff throw or is that Vlad's responsibility? Or does the RCF try to get into cutoff position? Also who's covering the bases? Is there the cutoff guy at the mound? Or do they just not play 4-man OF in those situations?
   85. zenstudent Posted: May 28, 2022 at 11:25 PM (#6078910)
1951-1960 (the 50s)

Duke Snider: 29+21+42+40+42+43+40+15+23+14 = 309

Eddie Mathews: 25+47+40+41+37+32+31+46+39 = 338

Or is this actually about 1950-1959 instead of the actual decade?
   86. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: May 28, 2022 at 11:41 PM (#6078911)
1951-1960 (the 50s)

Oh good, we're doing the pedantic "1900's vs. 20th century" thing again. If the OP had said "the 196th decade" you would be right. But the 1950s are commonly and sensibly defined as 1950-59.
   87. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 29, 2022 at 12:24 AM (#6078913)
Adjusting zenstudent's decade to 1959, Mathews now has 299 (338-39) and Snider has 326 (309+31-14).

My favorite Mathews trivia is that he first played for Atlanta, then Milwaukee, then Boston, then Milwaukee again, and then Atlanta again. I suspect that was a unique career progression.
   88. Walt Davis Posted: May 29, 2022 at 02:24 AM (#6078918)
So to get you started in my wee hours:

346 Cruz
335
308
290 Pujols
285 Trout
285
269
268
257
255

EDIT: Sheesh Duke, not only off on 6 of 7 but only 3 of them made the top 20. :-)
   89. JJ1986 Posted: May 29, 2022 at 07:56 AM (#6078920)
Cabrera, Stanton, Cano.
   90. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 29, 2022 at 08:37 AM (#6078921)
Apparently last night Trout hit a dboule down the LF line and Bichette (as is common) moved twoards the ball but apparently its his responsibility to cover 2nd.
So ... well Trout kept going and ended up at 3B which doesn't make sense but there you have it.



That's because the throw to second base ended up skipping all the way to the first base foul line and being fielded by the RF.

Guerrero realized that Bichette wasn't covering second and tried to run to the spot where the throw was going, but got there too late. Trout was stopping at 2B, but when he realized the ball was going wide of any fielders, he just sauntered on down to 3B.

It was a combination of bad positioning (Bichette/Guerrero) and a bad throw (Tapia).
   91. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 29, 2022 at 08:39 AM (#6078922)
News from Maddon about Suzuki is that he was treated at the hospital for a contusion, released, and he came back to the ballpark.
Maddon says he isn't going on the IL and could play today.

Relevant tweet

   92. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: May 29, 2022 at 10:39 AM (#6078925)
Jose Bautista had some 50-homer seasons in that frame, so I’ll guess he’s the other 285. Chris Davis had some as well, so even though he was awful at the end, I’ll guess he had the 269. Cabrera is the 335. Andrew McCutchen on the lower part of the list maybe?
   93. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: May 29, 2022 at 11:06 AM (#6078928)
Btw, I just looked it up and there is indeed a Sporcle quiz for Walt's question. The Sporlce quiz is is easier, though since it includes a picture of each player. With that said I still only got 9 of 10. One of the pictures I thought was Votto and completely blanked on who it really was.
   94. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: May 29, 2022 at 11:09 AM (#6078929)
Anyway, now that I know the answer, here's the updated board:
346 Cruz
335
308 Stanton
290 Pujols
285 Trout
285 Bautista
269
268 Cabrera
257 Davis
255
   95. JJ1986 Posted: May 29, 2022 at 11:17 AM (#6078930)
I'm sure Edwin Encarancion is one of them.
   96. JJ1986 Posted: May 29, 2022 at 11:19 AM (#6078931)
I looked at the quiz and I would never have gotten the 269 in a thousand guesses.
   97. The Duke Posted: May 29, 2022 at 11:48 AM (#6078936)
Is Justin upton on the list ?
   98. James Newburg Posted: May 29, 2022 at 12:59 PM (#6078943)
2010-19...is Jay Bruce the 269?
   99. James Newburg Posted: May 29, 2022 at 01:01 PM (#6078944)
I think Encarnacion is the 335 and I'll say the 255 is...Granderson?
   100. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: May 29, 2022 at 01:39 PM (#6078947)
That's all of them:

346 Cruz
335 Encarnacion
308 Stanton
290 Pujols
285 Trout
285 Bautista
269 Bruce
268 Cabrera
257 Davis
255 Upton
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