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Mets acting GM Zack Scott busted on drunk driving charge in White Plains

Acting General Manager Zack Scott is facing driving while intoxicated charges after he was busted dozing in his car in White Plains, The Post has learned.

Scott, 44, was nabbed at 4:17 a.m. Tuesday when cops caught him snoozing in a 2018 Toyota on South Lexington Avenue near the federal courthouse, White Plains Police Capt. James Spencer said Wednesday.

The embattled GM refused to give blood or submit to a breathalyzer but underwent a field sobriety test and failed, Spencer said.

He was charged and released and is due back in White Plains City Court on Thursday.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 03:32 PM | 56 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: September 01, 2021 at 03:46 PM (#6037736)
Good week for the Mets.
   2. The Duke Posted: September 01, 2021 at 03:47 PM (#6037738)
Mets statement: we are very disappointed he showed up at the bosses event, schmoozed the guests of the boss as we requested, drank the free booze we served everyone w/o regard to how drunk they were getting and then drove home drunk after a successful event. He will no longer be part of our family and let that be a lesson to all of our employees who accept an invite to the bosses house in the future. Thumbs down to him.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 03:49 PM (#6037740)
He was charged and released and is due back in White Plains City Court on Thursday.


Guess he's not a Hall of Famer baseball person.
   4. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: September 01, 2021 at 03:57 PM (#6037742)
Very mediocre.

Thumbs down.
   5. Buck Coats Posted: September 01, 2021 at 04:04 PM (#6037745)
Sounds more like parking while intoxicated?
   6. Rally Posted: September 01, 2021 at 04:04 PM (#6037746)
From this article it doesn’t seem like he was actually driving, unless he dozed off in traffic. Why do they feel the need to bust someone who tries to sleep it off in their car? That kind of enforcement would seem likely to encourage drunk driving. Sure, you might crash and kill somebody, but you probably have a better chance of getting away with it if you drive home as opposed to sleeping in your car.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: September 01, 2021 at 04:09 PM (#6037747)
GM had attended a charity event at club owner Cohen's estate in Connecticut on Monday night, with Lindor and Baez in attendance, no kidding.

I guess while Lindor and Baez were going thumbs down, GM was going, "Bottoms up!"
   8. Nasty Nate Posted: September 01, 2021 at 04:28 PM (#6037759)
From this article it doesn’t seem like he was actually driving, unless he dozed off in traffic.
I assumed he dozed off at a stoplight or something, Larussa-style.
   9. bfan Posted: September 01, 2021 at 04:29 PM (#6037761)
From this article it doesn’t seem like he was actually driving, unless he dozed off in traffic. Why do they feel the need to bust someone who tries to sleep it off in their car? That kind of enforcement would seem likely to encourage drunk driving. Sure, you might crash and kill somebody, but you probably have a better chance of getting away with it if you drive home as opposed to sleeping in your car


Agreed. And if you are not committing the crime charged when they find you, they can only infer you must have gotten there by driving at some point before the moments they tested you, and if you are not sober now, you must have been drunk then. That feels like a real stretch to me.
   10. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 04:33 PM (#6037763)
The embattled GM refused to give blood or submit to a breathalyzer but underwent a field sobriety test and failed, Spencer said.
Dude. Never do the field sobriety test. You're not legally required to consent to that one, so refuse.
   11. bfan Posted: September 01, 2021 at 04:43 PM (#6037769)
Dude. Never do the field sobriety test. You're not legally required to consent to that one, so refuse


If he is like me, the urine soaked pants gave him away.
   12. Biscuit_pants Posted: September 01, 2021 at 04:51 PM (#6037772)
If he is like me, the urine soaked pants gave him away.

I am trying to figure out if this makes me want to go out drinking with you more or less.
   13. Swoboda is freedom Posted: September 01, 2021 at 04:54 PM (#6037775)
From the article -In addition to the drunk driving charge, Scott was cited for stopping on a highway, disobeying a traffic control device and failing to notify the Department of Motor Vehicles of a change in address, police records show.

If he was stopped on the highway and disobeying a traffic control device , that means he was probably asleep at a light.
   14. CFBF is Obsessed with Art Deco Posted: September 01, 2021 at 05:17 PM (#6037784)
"Failing to notify the Department of Motor Vehicles of a change in address" is a pretty amusing charge at the end of a story about drunk driving.
   15. Adam Starblind Posted: September 01, 2021 at 05:20 PM (#6037786)
Dude. Never do the field sobriety test. You're not legally required to consent to that one, so refuse


That's the sound legal advice, yet whenever it comes up you're drunk.
   16. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 05:25 PM (#6037789)
Well, he was sober enough to refuse the other tests…
   17. Walt Davis Posted: September 01, 2021 at 05:27 PM (#6037792)
I've never been invited to a billionaire's charity event -- do they normally go on until 3 am? Is it considered gauche to arrive/leave in a taxi/uber?
   18. reech Posted: September 01, 2021 at 06:52 PM (#6037819)
Once again,

METS GOTTA METS
   19. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 01, 2021 at 06:57 PM (#6037821)
Sounds more like parking while intoxicated?
As others have noted, it seems like he may have been stopped on the roadway, which is usually going to draw some attention. I know a guy who decided to sleep off a few too many drinks, but was still charged because he was in the front seat with the key in the ignition, which the cops thought was enough evidence of actual drunk driving. I think he beat the rap, at some expense, so perhaps the better practice would be to sleep in the back seat after removing the key from the ignition.
   20. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 07:49 PM (#6037836)
He was at a traffic light.
   21. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 07:53 PM (#6037839)
He supposedly left the charity event at 8:30 or 9 pm and was arrested at 4:17 am.
   22. tshipman Posted: September 01, 2021 at 07:56 PM (#6037843)
I've never understood why people feel the need to immediately jump to the defense of people who are charged with drunk driving.
   23. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 08:16 PM (#6037850)
White Plains? That's practically the forest primeval. /s
   24. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 08:17 PM (#6037851)
DP
   25. Walt Davis Posted: September 01, 2021 at 08:36 PM (#6037855)
#19: I believe that depends on the laws of the state. I think in some states if you're drunk and the engine is running you're guilty, even if you're in a parking lot or a rest area or whatever. In others I think it's key in the ignition, maybe some are behind the wheel. Maybe in one or two crazy places you have to be actually driving on the road. I'm sure passed out at a stop light is against the law everywhere; I assume me taking a nap sober at a stop light is against the law everywhere.
   26. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: September 01, 2021 at 08:52 PM (#6037859)
Years ago, my friend got a drunk driving charge when he was sleeping in his car on the side of the road (he said, anyway), because the keys were in the ignition even though the engine was off. He was out of gas, so he said he might have run out of gas and coasted over and fallen asleep. He was too drunk to remember anything except driving, and didn't remember pulling over.

Anecdotally, I have found the last minute or two before sleeping can be very hard to remember when you are quite drunk. On a number of occasions I easily recall coming home fairly drunk (not by driving myself!) but pretty much nothing much after that, even though by all appearances I went straight to sleep.
   27. Cblau Posted: September 01, 2021 at 08:59 PM (#6037860)
Incidentally, the federal courthouse is on the same block as police HQ, so not a good choice of places to take a nap.
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: September 01, 2021 at 09:20 PM (#6037863)
As someone who is a bad person, and has two duis (last one was over a decade ago) and who has decided to keep an interlock device on my own car voluntarily... I have to ask what is the difference between taking the field sobriety test vs not taking the test and how does that change the ultimate result?

I've been pulled over for drunk driving 5 times(again I'm a bad person) and 3 of the times the officers have let me go home on my own with just a warning(only one of those three times I wasn't drunk... I was using my budies jeep and his steering wheel had tremendous amount of play and it made it a bit tough to drive fully straight, the big thing here though was I didn't have a drivers license at all... I didn't get one until a few years later, when I was 24 or so, this was when I was 21---it's sometimes good to be white, in the military) , the second actual dui I got pulled over by a police officer as I pulled out of a bowling alley at 10pm and was pulled over because I was missing my front license plate.... literally he didn't see me driving one second before he whipped a u-turn and pulled me over for that specific reason. How does refusing a sobriety test change the ultimate result if you are guilty?
   29. sunday silence (again) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 09:22 PM (#6037865)
I believe that depends on the laws of the state. I think in some states if you're drunk and the engine is running you're guilty, even if you're in a parking lot or a rest area or whatever. In others I think it's key in the ignition, maybe some are behind the wheel.


Walt is correct. People have been known to be arrested in their own driveway asleep at the wheel.
   30. AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale Posted: September 01, 2021 at 09:28 PM (#6037867)
How does refusing a sobriety test change the ultimate result if you are guilty?
My brother's friend refused a field sobriety test. When they finally gave him one at the station it was a couple hours later, and he was juuuuust under the limit.

edit: there's probably also a non-zero chance that they never give you one, if you refuse the one on the road.
   31. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: September 01, 2021 at 09:42 PM (#6037872)
Detectives believe alcohol was involved.
   32. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 09:55 PM (#6037874)
I have to ask what is the difference between taking the field sobriety test vs not taking the test and how does that change the ultimate result?
The field sobriety test, unlike a blood draw or a breathalyzer, is entirely subjective. You fail if the cop says you fail.
   33. cardsfanboy Posted: September 01, 2021 at 10:03 PM (#6037878)
My brother's friend refused a field sobriety test. When they finally gave him one at the station it was a couple hours later, and he was juuuuust under the limit.

edit: there's probably also a non-zero chance that they never give you one, if you refuse the one on the road.


I get it if you are close to the limit, that does make sense, add in that if there is a real possibility that your mouth has alcohol in it that is going to up any breathalyzer and you would want to let that get reduce (Again... I'm a bad person and actually have bought and own a personal breathalyzer... I cannot drive a car if I'm over .04 because of my interlock device, and yet I'm still a drunk, so I kinda know my current limits at all time, and I can see a .04 swing simply by rinsing out my mouth with water, it doesn't change the "real" level that I'm at, but it will change the perception of the device.... so I get that part..)

but honestly it might sound wrong to say this out loud, but .10, .08 is not really where drunk drivers are at, it's .18 or so... no amount of waiting is going to make a difference. We have been conditioned that a certain number is too high, but in reality that level isn't the true threat level. As someone who has measured their drinking habit for a decade+, I hit .08 after two drinks in an hour. I've gone into a bar, had one drink an hour, for three hours and go to my car, which has a limit of .05 and get a test warning(meaning I'm between .05-.03), and the last drink I took was at least 40 minutes ago, and I've learned that I need to rinse my mouth out with water before blowing.

I am arguably one of the few people who has an active consciousness of where my bac is pretty much every hour of every day as I am a drunk and have no intention of stopping, but also have zero intention of committing a felony which is what a third dui is classified as in Missouri. I keep seeing people talk about not submitting to the sobriety test, and knowing full and well how slowly the body takes to reduce bac, and knowing full and well what the bac of someone who is actually drunk is more than likely at, and knowing well from experience that the cops aren't actually going to do the paperwork for a guy who is 'slightly' drunk, I just do not see how refusing does anything other than put you on the negative list in eventual sentencing.
   34. cardsfanboy Posted: September 01, 2021 at 10:10 PM (#6037881)
The field sobriety test, unlike a blood draw or a breathalyzer, is entirely subjective. You fail if the cop says you fail.


And if you refuse, how does that actually change anything? If you refuse, you are going to be detained anyway, so refusing to take the test, which from what I've seen isn't the basis for anything other than giving the officer a reason to submit you to a breathalyzer.

Both times I've been asked to take a breathalyzer it was literally hour+ later at the police station. I do think if I rinsed my mouth out, my result might have been a bit lower, but not enough to save me. To me rinsing the mouth out with water should be the first requirement before a breathalyzer is given. Again I have my own personal breathalyzer and have seen ranges of .04-.08 simply by rinsing the mouth out. And again it doesn't change the actual bac level, it just gives an accurate reading.
   35. Adam Starblind Posted: September 01, 2021 at 10:11 PM (#6037882)
If two drinks in an hour is getting you to .08, you need to get your liver looked at, drunkie.
   36. cardsfanboy Posted: September 01, 2021 at 10:18 PM (#6037885)
If two drinks in an hour is getting you to .08, you need to get your liver looked at, drunkie.


literally did a month ago, and surprisingly I'm actually in incredible shape according to all the tests they did... the real issue is that I went from 190 pounds to 140 pounds in about a year and a half, and I don't actually eat more than one meal a day on most days. When I eat it takes a more to put me at .08... the problem is that my alcoholism has completely eliminated my desire to eat... literally I've had one meal since Sunday, and that is how my week usually goes, I'll eat half a meal a day, drink the equivalent of 8-10 shots a night, then it's the next day.

I can force myself to eat more, and then it takes a bit more to get myself to .08, but the point I was making is that people don't realize how "undrunk" you really are at .08, because MADD has made that a magic number of fear.
   37. gef the talking mongoose, peppery hostile Posted: September 01, 2021 at 10:37 PM (#6037894)
the urine soaked pants gave him away.


A problem Smitty* will never experience.
   38. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 01, 2021 at 10:49 PM (#6037897)
And if you refuse, how does that actually change anything?
It eliminates the cop's testimony at your trial when he says, "I administered a field sobriety test and he failed miserably." Your lawyer can argue whether the breathalyzer was calibrated properly; he can't argue with the cop's testimony that you flunked the FST.
   39. cardsfanboy Posted: September 01, 2021 at 10:56 PM (#6037900)
It eliminates the cop's testimony at your trial when he says, "I administered a field sobriety test and he failed miserably." Your lawyer can argue whether the breathalyzer was calibrated properly; he can't argue with the cop's testimony that you flunked the FST.


Okay. Not sure that will matter in 1 out of 100 cases, but it's there I guess.
   40. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: September 02, 2021 at 08:36 AM (#6037936)
I knew a guy that failed his field sobriety test because he put his hand on the door when he was getting out of his truck. Just one case obviously, so take it for whatever little value it is, but yeah, if a cop wants you to fail, you fail.
   41. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 02, 2021 at 08:52 AM (#6037942)
but honestly it might sound wrong to say this out loud, but .10, .08 is not really where drunk drivers are at, it's .18 or so... no amount of waiting is going to make a difference.

I think this is an important point to make. Virtually all the deaths and serious injuries are caused by drivers near or over 0.2, and they're generally habitual drunk drivers.

The "anything over 0.08 is DWI", "Buzzed driving is drunk driving" approach doesn't really attack the core issue. Nor does the "anyone caught over the limit is evil". It's too harsh on the low end, and way too lenient on the high end.

We really need a much more graduated series of offenses like we have with assault, or theft, or homicide. No one lumps a one punch bar fight with no injuries in the same category as a pre-meditated assault with a weapon.
   42. Captain Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: September 02, 2021 at 10:59 AM (#6037966)
In Soviet Russiuh, Mets drive YOU to drink!
   43. The Duke Posted: September 02, 2021 at 01:57 PM (#6037999)
41. Yeah I agree with that. But I will say humans have a propensity to think a few drinks don’t impact your skills when it does. I learned this via skiing all winter when I was younger. I’m by no means a good skier but I used to ski a lot and ski a hard day. After a number of Lunches where we all might have one beer, we’d get back on the slopes and be useless. It was the beer. Just one would take the edge off for the afternoon. Of course altitude and dehydration issues exacerbate that but after a while we just stopped drinking up there to avoid the material loss of motor skills. That fascinated me and has always made me more careful about my drinking and driving.
   44. Karl from NY Posted: September 02, 2021 at 02:50 PM (#6038004)
I've never understood why people feel the need to immediately jump to the defense of people who are charged with drunk driving.

Because that's all it is: a charge. The accusation can be wrong. The cop can flat out lie about his sobriety, as Nieporent said. There can be more context we're not seeing - like he did the responsible thing by getting off the road but was still nailed by an overzealous regulation that creates the wrong incentives.

It's good to want all the information rather than jumping instantly to condemnation in our environment of perpetual media outrage.
   45. greenback used to say live and let live Posted: September 02, 2021 at 02:59 PM (#6038006)
I tend to believe the authorities here much more so than in Juan Encarnacion's case, which sounds very compatible with a domestic dispute turned nasty.
   46. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 02, 2021 at 03:01 PM (#6038007)
Could someone just give Sandy Alderson a gold watch or something and tell him to retire? He isn't able to build a consistent winner and his recent track record of hires suggests he struggles with determining people's judgment.
   47. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 02, 2021 at 03:45 PM (#6038017)
Scott placed on Administrative Leave; Sandy Alderson assuming GM duties:
The Mets announced Thursday that they’ve placed acting general manager Zack Scott on administrative leave “until further notice.” Team president Sandy Alderson is assuming Scott’s responsibilities indefinitely. Scott was arrested earlier this week on a DWI charge in White Plains, N.Y. He pleaded not guilty at an arraignment earlier this morning.
Give the new GM a Hand!
   48. The Duke Posted: September 02, 2021 at 04:17 PM (#6038023)
Thanks for coming to the party but we won’t be able to pay you anymore or help with your legal
predicament. In fact the prosecutor already has us down as a witness for the prosecution. We hope our actions won’t create any issues for you in finding future employment in our tight knit industry. We hope the court won’t hold it against you that you are now destitute. Let us know where you land so we can add you to our holiday card list.

PS thanks for getting Javy and Francisco off the tabloid front pages.!
   49. Rough Carrigan Posted: September 02, 2021 at 04:51 PM (#6038027)
"The embattled GM remarked that the test was completely unfair as anyone can so that no Met is good in the field."
   50. VCar Posted: September 03, 2021 at 03:53 PM (#6038144)
Give the new GM a Hand!

they hired Roger Metzger?
   51. DFA Posted: September 03, 2021 at 05:39 PM (#6038167)
That fascinated me and has always made me more careful about my drinking and driving.


I hope by more careful you mean never doing it.
   52. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:48 PM (#6038201)
cops caught him snoozing in a 2018 Toyota on South Lexington Avenue near the federal courthouse

Well, that's convenient...
   53. T.J. Posted: September 05, 2021 at 01:23 PM (#6038370)
I'm an attorney in North Carolina who represents many people charged with DWI/DUI. There are lots of so-called field sobriety tests: Alcosensor, horizontal gaze nystagmus, walk-and-turn, finger-to-nose, Romberg balance, a range of the alphabet (without singing!), counting backwards from 100 by 7s, touching your fingers to your thumb in a particular order, and other nonsense. If you refuse to answer the officer's questions and don't perform any of these tests, the officer may arrest you anyway but may have a hard time justifying the arrest, which requires "probable cause."

And that can make a HUGE difference whether you're found guilty or not. I challenge the arrests of my clients all the time through motions to suppress. If the judge determines there was no probable cause to arrest you, any evidence after that is inadmissible as the fruit of the poison tree. Which means "Not guilty." THAT'S why you should refuse the field tests.

In most states, though, refusing to blow into the machine at the jail/magistrate's office will result in a bunch of collateral consequences, including other criminal charges, a long-term suspension of your license, etc. So generally, you should submit to the Intoxilyzer, EC/IR II, or whatever.

Also, cardsfanboy, no offense, but your testing of the limits of how much you can drink before you drive, your apparent alcoholism (you probably shouldn't drink and drive AT ALL), and your lack of knowledge of the law about the criminal justice system beyond merely driving while impaired/driving under the influence (for example, you're not guilty until the fact-finder says so), strongly suggest to me that you will get that dreaded third DWI sooner or later.

CAVEAT: Don't rely on any of this as actual legal advice. Consult with an attorney experienced with DWI law in your state if you have questions.
   54. toratoratora Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:24 PM (#6038408)
I have a friend that left a bar, had a DWI already, decided accurately that she was too drunk to drive so she fell asleep in the back seat with the keys in her purse. Turns out she pulled over in a no parking zone. An officer stopped to write a ticket, noted she was asleep in the back and woke her up. She explained the situation, and ended up getting a DWI.
When they booked her even the other cops at the station thought it was a bad arrest. Cost her 10k and she lost her license for two years.
   55. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:30 PM (#6038409)
Also, cardsfanboy, no offense, but your testing of the limits of how much you can drink before you drive, your apparent alcoholism (you probably shouldn't drink and drive AT ALL), and your lack of knowledge of the law about the criminal justice system beyond merely driving while impaired/driving under the influence (for example, you're not guilty until the fact-finder says so), strongly suggest to me that you will get that dreaded third DWI sooner or later.


There is a reason I have kept my interlock device on my car a decade after I was allowed to remove it. I fully know I would be stupid enough if I had the option.
   56. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2021 at 09:00 PM (#6038433)
I'm literally paying $30 a month to make sure I never drive drunk again... It's a decision I made knowing my own stupidity.

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