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Saturday, December 07, 2019

Mets are interested in Rick Porcello

Jon Heyman reports that the Mets are interested in free agent pitcher Rick Porcello and have been speaking to his agent.

Sometimes, the jokes seem to write themselves…..

 

 

QLE Posted: December 07, 2019 at 10:28 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: mets being mets, rick porcello

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   1. bbmck Posted: December 07, 2019 at 10:49 PM (#5906713)
Pitching WAR during the contract years on Cot's with $20mil+ AAV that ended in 2019 or earlier, ignoring opt outs and re-negotiation:

9. Justin Verlander, $25,714,286 (2013-19), 35 WAR, 5th most
11. Felix Hernandez, $25,000,000 (2013-19), 16.4 WAR, 30th most
14. Zack Greinke, $24,500,000 (2013-18), 29.9 WAR, 5th most
15. CC Sabathia, $24,400,000 (2012-16), 7.1 WAR, 95th most
16. Cole Hamels, $24,000,000 (2013-18), 26.7 WAR, 7th most
16. Cliff Lee, $24,000,000 (2011-15), 20.5 WAR, 10th most

20. CC Sabathia, $23,000,000 (2009-15), 21.3 WAR, 16th most
21. Johan Santana, $22,916,667 (2008-13), 15.3 WAR, T29th most
25. Matt Cain, $21,250,000 (2012-17), 2.7 WAR, T287th most
27. Rick Porcello, $20,625,000 (2016-19), 8.8 WAR, T46th most
28. Tim Lincecum, $20,250,000 (2012-13), -2.2 WAR, 838th most
29. Roy Halladay, $20,000,000 (2011-13), 8.5 WAR, 30th most
   2. PreservedFish Posted: December 08, 2019 at 07:53 AM (#5906752)
Why is this a joke? He's probably a reasonable back-end starter.
   3. Jose Goes to Absurd Lengths for 50K Posted: December 08, 2019 at 08:26 AM (#5906756)
Yeah, Porcello is a perfectly useful starting pitcher. Durability is a vastly underrated feature for starting pitchers. Slick Rick is going to take the ball every fifth day. He got there a bit up and down but in five years with the Sox he made 159 starts with a 102 ERA+, that’s fine. His FIP is a lot more consistent than his actual ERA also. I’ve said since mid-season that I think he is a guy who will benefit if the ball gets a bit dejuiced this year.
   4. "RMc", the superbatsman Posted: December 08, 2019 at 10:12 AM (#5906768)
Why is this a joke?

Because it involves the Mets?
   5. Dock Ellis Posted: December 08, 2019 at 11:18 AM (#5906792)
Agree on durability being underrated , innings don't eat themselves. Porcello will help his next team.
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 08, 2019 at 11:23 AM (#5906795)
Porcello would be the Mets #4 right? deGrom, Syndergaard, Stroman, Porcello, Matz.

He's really good for a #4.
   7. SoSH U at work Posted: December 08, 2019 at 11:55 AM (#5906801)
Porcello's your man if you want decisions out of your starters. No one gets more Ws and Ls than Ricky, and the disparity between him and other starters is quite remarkable.
   8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 08, 2019 at 01:23 PM (#5906825)
   9. bbmck Posted: December 08, 2019 at 02:18 PM (#5906833)
276 pitchers have made at least 150 starts since the strike so partial career for those who debuted in 1994 or earlier, in those starts they collectively have 71.7 decisions per 100 starts, 38.1 wins and 33.6 losses, individually:

Decision %:

80.4 - Adam Wainwright
80.3 - Mark Mulder
79.0 - Mike Mussina
78.8 - Curt Schilling
78.7 - Kelvim Escobar

78.7 - Carlos Carrasco
78.5 - Rick Porcello
78.4 - Bartolo Colon
78.1 - Justin Verlander
78.1 - Andy Pettitte

63.3 - Chris Young
62.9 - Marco Estrada
62.7 - Paul Wilson
62.5 - Josh Johnson
62.4 - Scott Elarton

62.3 - Shaun Marcum
62.2 - Jake Odorizzi
61.3 - Nathan Eovaldi
60.6 - Rich Harden
57.5 - Chase Anderson

Win%:

52.8 - Randy Johnson
51.4 - Pedro Martinez
51.3 - Roy Halladay
50.7 - Mark Mulder
50.6 - Adam Wainwright

49.7 - Justin Verlander
49.2 - Mike Mussina
49.2 - Curt Schilling
49.1 - Clayton Kershaw
49.0 - Gerrit Cole

34th 44.0 - Rick Porcello

27.9 - Kevin Gausman
27.8 - Jamey Wright
27.8 - Zach Duke
27.5 - Tomo Ohka
27.5 - Nathan Eovaldi

27.1 - Andrew Cashner
26.8 - Glendon Rusch
26.6 - Mike Pelfrey
26.1 - Paul Wilson
24.9 - Jason Johnson

Loss%:

21.5 - Clayton Kershaw
23.2 - Pedro Martinez
23.8 - Rich Harden
23.8 - Roger Clemens
24.3 - Stephen Strasburg
24.9 - Randy Johnson

25.0 - Max Scherzer
25.0 - Chase Anderson
25.7 - David Price
25.8 - Masahiro Tanaka
25.8 - Rich Hill
25.8 - Michael Wacha

145th 34.5 - Rick Porcello

41.9 - Mark Redman
41.9 - Daniel Cabrera
42.1 - John Danks
42.5 - Roberto Hernandez
42.9 - Joe Mays

43.3 - Jimmy Haynes
43.4 - Jason Johnson
43.4 - Mike Maroth
44.3 - Kip Wells
44.4 - Zach Duke
   10. SoSH U at work Posted: December 08, 2019 at 02:45 PM (#5906838)
276 pitchers have made at least 150 starts since the strike so partial career for those who debuted in 1994 or earlier, in those starts they collectively have 71.7 decisions per 100 starts, 38.1 wins and 33.6 losses, individually:


I looked at the starters with the Top 24 GS, but I viewed it from an IP standpoint, rather than GS. Porcello has 267 decisions in 2031 innings thrown as a starter, Wainwright has 13 fewer decisions in 10 fewer starter innings. (From my by-hand search, Wainwright was a comfortable No. 2).




   11. Rough Carrigan Posted: December 09, 2019 at 12:05 PM (#5907066)
He will kill you some games and others he will seem that he's about to kill you, having given up 2 or 3 quick runs before righting the ship and stonewalling the other team for the next 5 innings. He can be very scary to watch.
   12. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 09, 2019 at 12:25 PM (#5907073)
Don't the Mets have kind of a bad defense? That doesn't seem like a great fit for a BIP-heavy type like Porcello.
   13. PreservedFish Posted: December 09, 2019 at 12:27 PM (#5907075)
Yes. Brutal defense.
   14. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 09, 2019 at 12:31 PM (#5907077)
Don't the Mets have kind of a bad defense? That doesn't seem like a great fit for a BIP-heavy type like Porcello.

It was very bad in April-May, when they had Davis at 3B and Rosario was playing very poorly at short. Rosario straightened things out from that point, and Davis played more in the OF after Frazier came back, and the D looked better after that point. Not good, but not as terrible as earlier in the season.

Frazier's a FA and it's not clear who's going to be playing where in 2020, so it's hard to say how bad the defense will be.
   15. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: December 09, 2019 at 03:57 PM (#5907213)
I think the temptation is to see Porcello-related moves as pathetic is an overreaction to his fluky Cy Young award. He's kind of like this generation's Pete Vuckovich. A mediocre pitcher who had a good year but who was a not-good choice for the CYY. (Man what a funky vote. Verlander beat Porcello in 1st place votes 14-8! The Porcello camp must have just left Verlander off the ballot entirely for him to still lose the vote.) As back-end starters go, he's fine.
   16. bobm Posted: December 09, 2019 at 04:18 PM (#5907233)
Porcello's 2019 GB rate does not seem to put him unusually at the mercy of the Mets infield defense

                                                        
   I           Player        Split Year  BF BFtot    %
     Noah Syndergaard Ground Balls 2019 268   825 32.5
          Steven Matz Ground Balls 2019 223   691 32.3
         Zack Wheeler Ground Balls 2019 249   828 30.1
         Jacob deGrom Ground Balls 2019 217   804 27.0


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Generated 12/9/2019.

                                                        
   I        Player        Split Year   BF BFtot    %
     Rick Porcello Ground Balls 2019  219   768 28.5


Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 12/9/2019.

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