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Wednesday, March 15, 2023

Mets’ Edwin Diaz carried off field after Puerto Rico WBC celebration injury

Edwin Diaz injured his right leg as Puerto Rico celebrated its 5-2 victory over the Dominican Republic on Wednesday night to advance to the quarterfinals.

The Mets closer, who struck out the side and earned the save, appeared to hurt his knee as the team began celebrating.

Diaz had to be carried off the field and was eventually placed in a wheelchair.

After securing the final out, he was has embraced by some of his teammates and they began jumping up and down together.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 15, 2023 at 11:15 PM | 38 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Hombre Brotani Posted: March 16, 2023 at 12:59 AM (#6120519)
Kendrys Morales Syndrome.
   2. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: March 16, 2023 at 01:05 AM (#6120520)
Awfully early in the year to be breaking out the #lolmets hashtag.
   3. bookbook Posted: March 16, 2023 at 01:48 AM (#6120521)
This sucks
   4. . Posted: March 16, 2023 at 07:10 AM (#6120524)
This could actually be the beginning of the end for the WBC, particularly since it happened in a celebration.
   5. Tony S Posted: March 16, 2023 at 08:06 AM (#6120528)

Rumors are that it was the ACL. We'll know more today.

At least we got to enjoy that win for six seconds.
   6. The Duke Posted: March 16, 2023 at 09:09 AM (#6120529)
Celebrations have always looked dangerous to me. That's a huge blow to Timmy Trumpet and possibly a big blow to the Mets
   7. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: March 16, 2023 at 09:24 AM (#6120530)
Huge bummer after an exciting game.
   8. Darren Posted: March 16, 2023 at 10:14 AM (#6120532)
Damn. Part of me immediately thinks, "what are you idiots doing, injuring someone while celebrating!?" But then I remember that you can get hurt doing a thousand different very normal things, and celebrating is just one of them. I guess. This sucks is what I'm saying.
   9. God can’t be all that impressed with Charles S. Posted: March 16, 2023 at 10:40 AM (#6120537)
I do get to laugh at the guy who signed him for big bucks in our keeper league, but in reality this really sucks.
   10. . . . . . . Posted: March 16, 2023 at 10:43 AM (#6120538)
An uncomplicated ACL tear is a straightforward injury, though. Rivera did it in his 40s and came back at full strength. You just lose a year.
   11. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 16, 2023 at 10:57 AM (#6120539)
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   12. JimMusComp misses old primer... Posted: March 16, 2023 at 12:41 PM (#6120545)
Bummer. Never like seeing guys get hurt celebrating. After Morales DESTROYED his ankle celebrating a walk-off grand slam, I’ve thought that any celebrations should be curtailed by a lot. He was never the same player post-surgery.

Hope Diaz can return to form sooner than later.

And man, the Mets sure are snake bit this year. Yikes. Makes me think if Correa had actually signed there he’d be up for an amputation surgery STAT.
   13. . . . . . . Posted: March 16, 2023 at 01:54 PM (#6120548)
Oh yuck, it was a patellar tendon tear. That's a worse and riskier injury. Best of luck, trumpet man.
   14. Cooper Teenoh Posted: March 16, 2023 at 03:01 PM (#6120553)
When I tore my patellar tendon 9 years ago my surgeon said “this is an injury that happens to two types of people: elite athletes and overweight middle-aged guys.”

   15. dejarouehg Posted: March 16, 2023 at 03:04 PM (#6120554)
I'm guessing at least one of Baty, Mauricio, Alvarez or Ramirez will be gone around the trade deadline for a losing team's closer.
   16. Howie Menckel Posted: March 16, 2023 at 03:33 PM (#6120555)
When I tore my patellar tendon 9 years ago my surgeon said “this is an injury that happens to two types of people: elite athletes and overweight middle-aged guys.”

that's amazing - in which sport or sports are you elite?
   17. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: March 16, 2023 at 04:32 PM (#6120558)
This is the most Mets thing ever.
   18. VCar Posted: March 16, 2023 at 06:07 PM (#6120562)
just saw on ESPN that he's expected to miss the whole season
   19. Walt Davis Posted: March 16, 2023 at 06:34 PM (#6120567)
The first year after the trade went badly but he turned the fans from hate to love; so he can go for the double.

He may be suffering from Saberhagen Syndrome too: ERA+ by season: 146, 128, 208, 74, 246, 117, 297, NA

There was always the threat of injury risk from the WBC but figure "they'd be risking injury in ST anyway" ... but nobody celebrates in ST. Maybe they should run celebration drills (Just say no! Be joyless and businesslike!)
   20. Howie Menckel Posted: March 16, 2023 at 06:56 PM (#6120573)
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
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54m
Adam Ottavino is pitching in the WBC for Team USA. Buck Showalter said he might hire somebody to kidnap him.
   21. Cooper Teenoh Posted: March 16, 2023 at 09:03 PM (#6120580)
that's amazing - in which sport or sports are you elite?


Yeah, he thought he was real funny. I told him he was lucky doctors don't work for tips.
   22. base ball chick Posted: March 17, 2023 at 01:55 PM (#6120612)
14. Cooper Teenoh Posted: March 16, 2023 at 03:01 PM (#6120553)

When I tore my patellar tendon 9 years ago my surgeon said “this is an injury that happens to two types of people: elite athletes and overweight middle-aged guys.”


- am real surprised about the males thingy. i thought females had the more unstable knee because, as i understand, our thigh bones are connected to the hip bones at an unstable angle because of the pelvis needing to be wider for birthing babies
   23. Karl from NY Posted: March 17, 2023 at 02:18 PM (#6120613)
I'm sure it happens to females too, just less often since they do weekend-warrior sports stuff less. (Particularly overweight ones, while overweight guys still do sports stuff all the time.)
   24. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 17, 2023 at 03:38 PM (#6120616)
I've also read that ACL injuries are more common in women than men (or at least, more common in female athletes than male athletes). I don't think the doctor's comment in #14 was meant to be a statement of scientific fact.

   25. SandyRiver Posted: March 17, 2023 at 03:40 PM (#6120617)
Diaz is a candidate for the Bill Grammatica celebration award. Grammatica was a rookie placekicker for the Cardinals, and on Dec 15, 2001 his no-contact celebratory leap for making a FG ended with an awkward landing, tearing his ACL. Seems like a lesser injury than Diaz' as Grammatica was able to kick another FG and 2 PATs that game before being put on injured reserve, finishing his season. He kicked for the Cards throughout the 2002 season and then had a few up and down years before retiring.
   26. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: March 17, 2023 at 04:44 PM (#6120621)
Ah yes, the amazing kicking Grammaticas. His brother, Martin, was the better of the two.
   27. catomi01 Posted: March 17, 2023 at 06:01 PM (#6120624)
I'm sure it happens to females too, just less often since they do weekend-warrior sports stuff less. (Particularly overweight ones, while overweight guys still do sports stuff all the time.)


Probably half the girls I play slowpitch with have one knee injury or another...without thinking too much about it, for most of them it goes back to HS or college days, rather than anything since then. Among the guys the most common injury seems to be shoulder and elbow issues...basically still thinking they're the 18 year old kid who was convinced they could throw in the 80's + zero real stretching before games.
   28. Walt Davis Posted: March 17, 2023 at 06:33 PM (#6120627)
There's been a fair amount of press lately about the rash of knee injuries among pro female athletes the last few years. I'm not sure there's been anything close to a proper study yet (not that I've gone looking) so whether it's even more than what you'd expect or just a reaction to the growing popularity of women's sports and that somebody now cares that Alexia Putellas tore here ACL is hard to say.
   29. vortex of dissipation Posted: March 17, 2023 at 08:36 PM (#6120634)
I'm not sure there's been anything close to a proper study yet (not that I've gone looking) so whether it's even more than what you'd expect or just a reaction to the growing popularity of women's sports and that somebody now cares that Alexia Putellas tore here ACL is hard to say.


I was curious, so I looked for a study, but the first one that popped up was from 1994, so it's not that current. That one, done by "Randall W. Dick, assistant director of sports sciences for the NCAA, and Dr. Elizabeth Arendt, the orthopedic consultant for men's and women's basketball at the University of Minnesota and a member of the NCAA Medical Safeguards Committee" concluded that an ACL tear, "the knee injury most feared by basketball players is suffered six times more often by women than men." That's a huge difference, but as I said, the study was almost 30 years old.

I was interested because I remember so vividly an incident that happened while I was keeping the scorebook at an NCAA womens' basketball game many years ago. A player suffered an ACL tear right in front of me, about ten feet away from me - it was a non-contact injury. She simply landed wrong, and tore the ACL. But her scream of pain was just about the most awful thing I've ever heard. It really shook me. She was out for a year, but came back to play just as well after recovering, and eventually made her national team. I found out while Googling her today that her son has recently played in the NBA, which I didn't know. Her injury was specifically mentioned in the newspaper article I found about the study. But I'll never forget that terrible cry of pain from just a few feet away...
   30. Walt Davis Posted: March 17, 2023 at 09:13 PM (#6120642)
I've given that terrible cry of pain. It didn't stop the game which surprised me given I can scream really, really loud. So I decided to scream really, really, really, really loud. That stopped the game (and I think the half-dozen other games going on at the time).

I also found what I suppose was some pre-historic instinct took over in which I was pushing myself away from the direction of the pain in a "the sabertooth tiger (which no longer exists) has bitten off the bottom half of my leg, let's get out of here" way. The pain followed me which was annoying.

But after the initial shock the pain was totally manageable and of course it's not like the intramural refs could actually have done anything useful while the game went on. So I felt a bit embarrassed that I'd let out such a huge cry and probably got the rest of my clan wiped out by the other predators nearby. My bad.
   31. vortex of dissipation Posted: March 17, 2023 at 09:22 PM (#6120645)
Walt - I absolutely empathise.
   32. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 17, 2023 at 09:31 PM (#6120647)
Brandon Nimmo now reportedly out with an ankle injury.
   33. Cooper Teenoh Posted: March 18, 2023 at 03:33 AM (#6120661)
- am real surprised about the males thingy. i thought females had the more unstable knee because, as i understand, our thigh bones are connected to the hip bones at an unstable angle because of the pelvis needing to be wider for birthing babies


I wouldn’t be surprised if the doc just thought it was a great opportunity to make sport of a Husky Lad. That’s certainly how I took it. And that seemed to please him.

BTW, no weekend warrior injury for me. I slipped on icy stairs as I was going outside to throw a cup of boiling water in the air to make instant snow on a Chicago day when the high was -17. January 6, 2014. On the positive side, I didn’t have to shovel snow for the rest of the winter.
   34. SoSH U at work Posted: March 18, 2023 at 07:22 AM (#6120663)
There's been a fair amount of press lately about the rash of knee injuries among pro female athletes the last few years. I'm not sure there's been anything close to a proper study yet (not that I've gone looking) so whether it's even more than what you'd expect or just a reaction to the growing popularity of women's sports and that somebody now cares that Alexia Putellas tore here ACL is hard to say.


Lately?

When my daughter tore her ACL and meniscus 10 years ago before her freshman year of soccer, I was hardly surprised (nor were here coach and athletic trainer). There had been talk for at least 10 years by then of female athletes being more vulnerable to the torn ACL/MCL/meniscus than their male counterparts.
   35. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 18, 2023 at 10:29 AM (#6120665)

Yeah, it seems pretty well accepted that these injuries are more common in female athletes than male athletes, for a variety of reasons. I remember reading about it at least a decade ago.

When it comes to knee injuries women are more prone to them than men. Female athletes are 1.5 to 2 times more likely than their male counterparts to injure their anterior cruciate ligament, or ACL¹. (Winfield Hospital)

Female basketball players have a 3.5 times greater incidence of ACL tears compared to their male counterparts, and 2.8 times greater for soccer. (Cedars-Sinai)

Not sure if that means they are more common in women than men overall, since there are probably more men playing high impact sports well into adulthood than women.
   36. base ball chick Posted: March 18, 2023 at 11:45 AM (#6120667)
that's interesting cooper

i wonder how many people injure the patella tendon or ACL in NOT sports accidents. tried looking it up - couldn't find anything.

minus 17 degrees - my god. i wouldnt go away from the stove unless the house was on fire and even then am not sure i would
   37. Cris E Posted: March 18, 2023 at 01:31 PM (#6120675)
Women's knees have always been a nightmare. Maybe the number of studies went down because they weren't producing any new information.

There was a terrible rash of concussions in women's hockey 5-10 years back that was anecdotally credited to the sport of Women's Hockey being non-contact while the women just played hockey, resulting in some hits that weren't always expected.

Concussions in Women's Hockey
   38. Walt Davis Posted: March 18, 2023 at 02:48 PM (#6120678)
#34 ... yes as in stories I see in the press. Published newspapers, TV news, etc. Coaches and doctors and medical journals might have known about it and, heck, for all I know, there were dozens of articles in the media every year and I either didn't see thme or forgot about them.

A quick google of the NYT shows an in-depth look in 2001 and stories in 2003, 2008 and 2011. More generally Mia Hamm tore her ACL in late 2001 which generated some stories. I suppose that is a reasonable amount of coverage, it's not like there'd be one a week and I'm sure google isn't turning up every little story about the latest study.

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