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Thursday, January 23, 2020

Mets hire ‘respected’ Rojas as new manager

NEW YORK—When the Mets parted ways with Carlos Beltrán last week before he managed a single game, the situation had potential to send their offseason into chaos. With less than a month until Spring Training, the Mets lacked an on-field leader.

To patch that hole as seamlessly as possible, they looked within the walls of their own clubhouse. The Mets are close to finalizing a multiyear deal to make Luis Rojas their next manager, general manager Brodie Van Wagenen announced Wednesday, pivoting from Beltrán to one of the industry’s most well-respected rising leaders.

The son of longtime Major League player and manager Felipe Alou, and the half-brother of former Mets outfielder Moises Alou, Rojas was the Mets’ quality control coach and outfield instructor last season. That was the 38-year-old’s first experience on a big league staff, after he spent 13 years as a coach and manager in the Mets’ Minor League system. Rojas also has experience managing in the Dominican Winter League.

“He has literally trained his whole life to be a manager,” Van Wagenen said. “He comes from a legacy family. … He is respected by the players. He is trusted by the players. And he’s someone that we have great confidence in, [with] his ability to lead our team now.”

One down, two to go.

 

QLE Posted: January 23, 2020 at 12:22 AM | 45 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: luis rojas, managers, mets being mets

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   1. Walt Davis Posted: January 23, 2020 at 04:13 PM (#5918804)
An Alou-Rojas back in the majors!! That's good news.
   2. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 23, 2020 at 04:22 PM (#5918805)
Transcript of interview:

Brodie: "So, Luis...have you ever stolen signs?"

Rojas: "No."

Brodie: "You sure?"

Rojas: "Yes."

Brodie: "Promise?"

Rojas: "Yes."

Brodie: "Seriously, you promise?"

Rojas: "Yes."

Brodie: "Pinky swear?"

Rojas: "Yes."

Brodie: "No takebacks?"

Rojas: "Yes. Or no. Whichever one means I'm not going to take it back."

Brodie: "Congratulations, you're our new manager."

Rojas: "Thanks!"

Brodie: "So...you're, like, 100 percent sure you've never stolen any signs, right?"
   3. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 23, 2020 at 04:46 PM (#5918811)
If your dad's Felipe Alou, and you want to manage in the majors, you really should use Alou as your last name.
   4. Lassus Posted: January 23, 2020 at 04:50 PM (#5918813)
Sure, what the heck.
   5. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 23, 2020 at 04:52 PM (#5918817)
If your dad's Felipe Alou, and you want to manage in the majors, you really should use Alou as your last name.
How quickly we forget Cookie Rojas' stint managing the Angels in 1988.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: January 23, 2020 at 07:07 PM (#5918849)
How quickly we forget Cookie Rojas' stint managing the Angels in 1988.

I had it wrong for many years but Cookie is not part of the clan.
   7. Dog on the sidewalk has an ugly bracelet Posted: January 23, 2020 at 07:17 PM (#5918853)
I had no idea what a quality control coach was or that the Mets employed one. But reading about it, it sounds like good prep for bbeing a manager. I'm on board.
   8. asinwreck Posted: January 23, 2020 at 07:50 PM (#5918854)
Second-generation managers currently active:

Luis Rojas
David Bell
Aaron Boone

The campaign to get Dale Berra the Houston job starts now.
   9. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 23, 2020 at 08:45 PM (#5918863)
Anytime I see Moises Alou's name, first thing that comes to mind is that man was a professional hitter.
   10. Dock Ellis Posted: January 23, 2020 at 08:49 PM (#5918864)
Anytime I see Moises Alou's name, first thing that comes to mind is that man said he peed on his hands
   11. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 23, 2020 at 08:56 PM (#5918868)
Anytime I see Moises Alou's name, first thing that comes to mind is that man said he peed on his hands
It doesn't help that his first name shares the first four letters of "moist."
   12. crict Posted: January 23, 2020 at 09:16 PM (#5918873)
So Rojas never played in MLB, but looks like he also never played any pro baseball. When is the last time that happened?
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 23, 2020 at 09:26 PM (#5918875)
So Rojas never played in MLB, but looks like he also never played any pro baseball. When is the last time that happened?
Mike Shildt, actually.
   14. depletion Posted: January 23, 2020 at 09:51 PM (#5918885)
So Rojas never played in MLB, but looks like he also never played any pro baseball. When is the last time that happened?

He played for the Expos rookie league team(stats)
   15. crict Posted: January 23, 2020 at 09:53 PM (#5918886)
Well, I take back my question, then. Thanks!
   16. depletion Posted: January 23, 2020 at 09:56 PM (#5918888)
That the best position player on the team "Loves it" is good, as it probably buys some time if the season starts off poorly. Marcus Stroman used the word "love" 4 times in his tweet. I think it sounds like a good hire. As long as the manager is not markedly subpar the season is really on the players anyway. Casey Stengel with the Yankees: great manager. With the Mets, not so much.
   17. Howie Menckel Posted: January 23, 2020 at 10:07 PM (#5918890)
Luis also apparently is a cousin of Mel Rojas, whose name still triggers shivers among Mets fans circa 1997-98 who could have called him, and maybe did, "The Arsonist" with his 5.76 ERA.

that would have been the best reason of all to change his name back to Alou (the legend is that when Felipe signed in the 1950s, they used Alou when it should have been Rojas. so this fellow went back to the original surname to honor that parent).
   18. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 23, 2020 at 10:13 PM (#5918893)
Luis also apparently is a cousin of Mel Rojas, whose name still triggers shivers among Mets fans circa 1997-98 who could have called him, and maybe did, "The Arsonist" with his 5.76 ERA.
Ask Cubs fans about him too.
   19. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 23, 2020 at 10:23 PM (#5918896)
(the legend is that when Felipe signed in the 1950s, they used Alou when it should have been Rojas. so this fellow went back to the original surname to honor that parent)
I don't think it's a legend. In Alou's autobiography he "wrote" something like that when he signed his first contract, he signed as Felipe Rojas Alou, which in Spanish-speaking countries is (first name)(father's surname)(mother's surname). So based on U.S. patrilineal naming conventions he would be Felipe Rojas, but people defaulted to the written convention, which of course was Felipe Alou. I mean, maybe he made the story up, but this is that rare instance where it seems more likely that the old ballplayer's story is true.
   20. Howie Menckel Posted: January 23, 2020 at 10:23 PM (#5918897)
numerous rabbit holes for that Rojas trade to the Mets:

August 8, 1997: Traded by the Chicago Cubs with Brian McRae and Turk Wendell to the New York Mets for players to be named later and Lance Johnson. The New York Mets sent Mark Clark (August 11, 1997) and Manny Alexander (August 14, 1997) to the Chicago Cubs to complete the trade.

.........

as for Rojas, I used "legend" intending it as different from words like myth or apocryphal.

after all these years, I still believe some legends are true....
   21. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: January 23, 2020 at 10:25 PM (#5918898)
TBH, I was hoping the Mets got Dusty Baker to be the manager.
   22. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: January 23, 2020 at 10:56 PM (#5918899)
So what does a quality control manager for an MLB team do? I'm picturing Rojas in a hairnet ensuring that all the outfielder's thighs are the same circumference.

I'm also a bit surprised to see an emergency manager get a multi-year deal.
   23. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 23, 2020 at 11:00 PM (#5918902)
In Alou's autobiography he "wrote" something like that when he signed his first contract, he signed as Felipe Rojas Alou, which in Spanish-speaking countries is (first name)(father's surname)(mother's surname). So based on U.S. patrilineal naming conventions he would be Felipe Rojas, but people defaulted to the written convention, which of course was Felipe Alou. I mean, maybe he made the story up, but this is that rare instance where it seems more likely that the old ballplayer's story is true.
TFA recounts essentially the same story.
   24. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:02 AM (#5918923)
TFA recounts essentially the same story.
What, you expect me to click though before posting?
   25. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:49 AM (#5918928)
What, you expect me to click though before posting?
Of course not. I was merely providing corroboration from a source unknown to BBTF.
   26. Lassus Posted: January 24, 2020 at 07:43 AM (#5918933)
TBH, I was hoping the Mets got Dusty Baker to be the manager.

Ick. Really?
   27. Adam Starblind Posted: January 24, 2020 at 08:25 AM (#5918939)
Anytime I see Moises Alou's name, first thing that comes to mind is that man said he peed on his hands
It doesn't help that his first name shares the first four letters of "moist."


Obviously the President would call him "Moistness" Alou. I revile the President but love the mean nicknames.
   28. PreservedFish Posted: January 24, 2020 at 08:31 AM (#5918941)
I've never heard of this guy, but I'm into it. Possibly who they should have hired in the first place. Who doesn't want an Alou?
   29. Blastin Posted: January 24, 2020 at 08:51 AM (#5918946)
If your dad's Felipe Alou, and you want to manage in the majors, you really should use Alou as your last name.


Seems like it worked out okay though
   30. Blastin Posted: January 24, 2020 at 08:52 AM (#5918947)
in Spanish-speaking countries is (first name)(father's surname)(mother's surname)


Similarly, David Ortiz Arias being referred to as the latter when he first came up.
   31. Due to the leadership of Zonk... Posted: January 24, 2020 at 09:23 AM (#5918948)
Ask Cubs fans about him too.


Mel Blow-has!

   32. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 09:24 AM (#5918949)

I had pretty much completely forgotten that Moises Alou batted .341 as a 40-year-old for the Mets.
   33. PreservedFish Posted: January 24, 2020 at 09:38 AM (#5918955)
I didn't forget. He was incredible. Hit the snot out of the ball every time. Moises had a 134 OPS+ with a 1:1 BB:K ratio from age 37-41, with no apparent decline during those years, except in durability. He was just never not injured. I wonder how long he could have kept going?
   34. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 09:46 AM (#5918962)
Seems like it worked out okay though

Only because the new manager got busted in a never-before seen scandal.
   35. gef, talking mongoose & vexatious litigant Posted: January 24, 2020 at 09:52 AM (#5918965)
Similarly, David Ortiz Arias being referred to as the latter when he first came up.


"the latter" is one helluvan odd nickname.
   36. Blastin Posted: January 24, 2020 at 09:55 AM (#5918966)
...do you think, when they interviewed him, they didn't know who his family was?
   37. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 09:56 AM (#5918968)
How quickly we forget Cookie Rojas' stint managing the Angels in 1988.

I miss the days of Wine and Rojas
   38. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 10:00 AM (#5918970)
...do you think, when they interviewed him, they didn't know who his family was?

I'm just thinking about general visibility. I've never heard of him until this appointment, and I live in NY.

If you're an aspiring manager, it's really good to have the media talking about "famous managers Felipe Alou's son is rising through the minor league ranks".
   39. bobm Posted: January 24, 2020 at 10:38 AM (#5918991)
[13]

[...]never played any pro baseball. When is the last time that happened?

Mike Shildt, actually.


7 other managers since 1900, apparently, also never played pro baseball.
   40. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:11 PM (#5919026)
7 other managers since 1900, apparently, also never played pro baseball.


Does that include Ted Turner?
   41. asinwreck Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:21 PM (#5919028)
I miss the days of Wine and Rojas

That's what Alou always say.
   42. Nasty Nate Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:21 PM (#5919029)
"the latter" is one helluvan odd nickname.
It should be this guy's nickname.
   43. Jose Is Absurdly Chatty Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:30 PM (#5919031)
"the latter" is one helluvan odd nickname.


It should be this guy's nickname.

Would have worked for Loek Van Mil too! (RIP)
   44. bobm Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:30 PM (#5919032)
[40] 7 others excluding Ted Turner
   45. Nasty Nate Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:35 PM (#5919035)
Would have worked for Loek Van Mil too! (RIP)
That's one big honkballer

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