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Mets to contact Theo Epstein for open president of baseball operations job, report says

The New York Mets want to bring in a proven name during the offseason to lead the team’s baseball operations. They will start their search soon with one of the biggest names available.

According to MLB Network’s Jon Heyman, the Mets will soon reach out to former Boston Red Sox and Chicago Cubs general manager Theo Epstein to gauge his interest in the job.

Heyman also reported the Mets will seek permission to Oakland A’s president Billy Beane and Milwaukee Brewers president David Stearns once their respective seasons are over.

“Mets will soon contact Theo Epstein regarding their Baseball President job,” Heyman tweeted, “and plan to request permission to interview Billy Beane and David Stearns after their clubs are out (A’s are done Sunday, Brewers may be awhile). So Theo could be up 1st as Mets try for a proven star.”

Several reports in recent weeks have already tied the Mets to all three potential candidates, and each would certainly fill owner Steve Cohen’s desire for a big-name executive to revitalize the Mets’ front office.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 03, 2021 at 11:54 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Duke Posted: October 03, 2021 at 12:47 PM (#6043230)
AJ Preller would be a perfect fit
   2. Jeff Francoeur's OPS Posted: October 03, 2021 at 07:05 PM (#6043373)
If I'm Theo, I'll take the job if Cohen gives me a blank check ($10M+ per) and complete autonomy. Otherwise, too much bullshit happens in Flushing to risk my reputation.
   3. The Honorable Ardo Posted: October 03, 2021 at 10:23 PM (#6043434)
Theo has to be interested. Reversing the LOLMets meme and running New York would be a greater accomplishment than anything he did in Boston or Chicago.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: October 03, 2021 at 11:18 PM (#6043443)
Now while nobody scoffs at the Mets more than I do (other than Mets fans of course), they have never come close to achieving the ineptitude of the 86-year drought of the Red Sox and 108-year drought of the Cubs. Heck, the last time the Cubs had made it to the WS, there were still 3 teams in NY (none of them the Mets) and even then we really only made it because of WW2. Frankly taking over the Mets can only tarnish Theo's rep although I suppose building a juggernaut maybe could get him ranked ahead of Branch Rickey. Of course, historically speaking, about the last thing you want to do is allow Theo to spend big.

I'm not sure Theo takes the job if Alderson is allowed to stick around.
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 03, 2021 at 11:28 PM (#6043445)
I'm not sure Theo takes the job if Alderson is allowed to stick around.
Alderson will be 74 next month. Does he intend to stick around longer than needed to fix the bad hires he made when he was setting up the new regime?
   6. DFA Posted: October 04, 2021 at 01:53 AM (#6043452)
Reversing the LOLMets meme and running New York would be a greater accomplishment than anything he did in Boston or Chicago.


While Theo may be overrated, ending two of the most significant curses in all of sport is pretty goddamned amazing.
   7. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: October 04, 2021 at 08:02 AM (#6043460)
While Theo may be overrated, ending two of the most significant curses in all of sport is pretty goddamned amazing.

He'd be an excellent hire but I never thought him "ending" the Red Sox curse was especially impressive. He took over a team that had a pythag record of 100-62 in 2002 and was able to spend a lot of money to add to that team. I am more impressed with what he did with the Cubs, and what he did with the Red Sox afterwards.
   8. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 04, 2021 at 12:12 PM (#6043504)
Reversing the LOLMets meme and running New York would be a greater accomplishment than anything he did in Boston or Chicago.


This is not a true statement. Especially as regards the Cubs.

The Mets won a WS in the 80s and have been intermittently competitive pretty much ever since. LOLMets dates back, what, five years? They were in the World Series not very long ago. They are also distinctly a second banana to the Yankees, not unlike the White Sox are to the Cubs. Nobody but White Sox fans cared when they broke their "curse."
   9. bunyon Posted: October 04, 2021 at 12:24 PM (#6043507)
Theo was great. But he's also been around a while. Theo isn't the new, hungry guy who turns organizations around. Maybe he still has it and will be worth the money. And finding the next upstart is really, really hard. But I'd still rather try to find the next upstart. Strategies whose primary focus is a "big-name" seem to only be good at burning cash.

Hiring Theo for the money it will take is like hiring a great, but 30 year old, FA to a 10 year contract.


ETA: And hiring Alderson would be like hiring Alex Rodriguez today.
   10. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: October 04, 2021 at 01:42 PM (#6043523)
If I'm Theo, I'll take the job if Cohen gives me a blank check ($10M+ per) and complete autonomy.

FWIW, Theo's last contract with the Cubs was 5 yrs/ $50mil and he walked away from the last year. Honestly not sure he's worth how much money he might expect. Plus, like others have said, he totally ran the Cubs so he's not working for anyone but the owner and may actually want more responsibility (like also the business side).

Hiring Theo for the money it will take is like hiring a great, but 30 year old, FA to a 10 year contract.

I think I like this comp. Those last 4 years in Chicago were not good for Theo.
   11. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2021 at 02:32 PM (#6043544)
I think if Theo is given free rein he'll producea pretty good team. Maybe. He clearly knows how to do it but at this point it's unlikely he can get the band back together again like he did when he went to the Cubs and it's unlikely he'll stumble upon an Arietta and have a Lester like FA available.
   12. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2021 at 02:35 PM (#6043546)
Cubs miracles:

Getting Rizzo for what turned out to be peanuts.
Getting Arrietta for basically nothing
Signing an old FA in Lester and having him pitch great.
Joe Maddon have an unknown opt out clause.

   13. Paul d mobile Posted: October 04, 2021 at 02:47 PM (#6043551)
Whitey Herzog would also listen if called
   14. Adam Starblind Posted: October 04, 2021 at 03:12 PM (#6043554)
I said this on another thread, but I think it's worth repeating:

The entire point of hiring Alderson was to put the owners at ease in advance of the vote on whether Cohen could buy the franchise. Why else announce it before you even own the team? Cohen was viewed as a loose canon, and you'd be hard pressed to find a person more comfortably ensconced in the MLB old boys club than Alderson. He was never supposed to be running baseball ops.

Granted he did hire a harasser as GM, which is blameworthy. I'm not so sure you can fault him for the acting GM's subsequent drunk driving.

Anyway, Alderson is old and won't be around long. He served his purpose, and I don't think anyone (including he) is interested in him being an obstacle to others in management.

   15. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 04, 2021 at 05:51 PM (#6043582)
Theo isn't the new, hungry guy who turns organizations around.


I mean, he wasn't really that guy when he went to Chicago, either. He was still young, but he was probably the most famous executive in the game, barring perhaps Billy Beane.

I don't know if Epstein is one of these dudes, but there are some people who are just compelled, by something other than youth and hunger, to beat people. I'd argue that Beane is one of those guys. Epstein may be, as well.
   16. bunyon Posted: October 04, 2021 at 07:21 PM (#6043597)
Could be, sure. And it's not my money.
   17. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 04, 2021 at 08:20 PM (#6043607)
WTF would the Mets even bother? Just cast your eyes towards Tampa, see who's pulling levers down there and hire that guy. Tampa guys know their sh*t.
   18. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 05, 2021 at 08:51 AM (#6043652)
I firmly believe Theo wants to be Commissioner. I have no basis for this but it's what I think.
   19. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 06, 2021 at 01:57 PM (#6044010)
As suggested by earlier reports, Epstein & the Mets are a no-go:
According to SNY’s Andy Martino, Cohen and Epstein “had a good conversation and both agreed that this was not the right opportunity.”
Maybe something like this?
Cohen: Would you be interested in being the Mets head of baseball operations?
Epstein: No way.
Cohen: Sounds like it’s not the right opportunity.

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