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Tuesday, November 30, 2021

Miami Marlins acquire Joey Wendle, send Kameron Misner to Tampa Bay Rays

The Miami Marlins acquired All-Star third baseman Joey Wendle as part of a deal with the Tampa Bay Rays on Tuesday.

In return, the Rays got back Kameron Misner, a 23-year-old outfield/third base prospect.

Wendle spent the past four seasons with Tampa Bay. He had a career-high 11 home runs to go with 54 RBIs and 73 runs scored in 136 games this past season for the AL East champion Rays.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 30, 2021 at 08:21 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: December 01, 2021 at 08:24 AM (#6055507)
That's a funny trade. Is Misner a serious 3B prospect? Is Taylor Walls' glove so good Tampa is finding a spot for him? Surely Diaz isn't heading back to 3B. I know, they're about to sign Bryant for 8/$325 M. Wendle's been a darn good player for a while now (11 WAR, 6 WAA over the last 4). I know he might make $5-6 M this year, but how cheap can they get down there?
   2. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: December 01, 2021 at 08:28 AM (#6055508)
It's the Rays, Misner will be an All Star. Seriously I wouldn't trade with the Rays if you paid me. "We'll give you Wander Franco for a single A backup catcher" would have me thinking something was seriously wrong with Franco and my backup catcher in Single A was a mix of Piazza and Boone.
   3. sotapop Posted: December 01, 2021 at 09:21 AM (#6055513)
Walt, yeah. I'm a Rays fan and I don't get this, esp. given the Rays' fondness for guys who can play all over the field. Diaz's glove is marginal at best at third and he still seems unwilling/unable to tweak his swing and hit for the power the Rays expected.

So I went to their 40-man roster and found this guy, who wasn't even on my radar. Apparently Jonathan Aranda wasn't even in their top 30 prospects but ended up as MVP of Double-A South (at bottom of story). I'll save you the click:

Unranked among the Rays' Top 30 Prospects, Aranda was a beacon of consistency for the Biscuits, finishing second in all of Double-A ball with a .325 batting average and first with a .410 on-base percentage. The 23-year-old second baseman also had 10 homers, five triples and 19 doubles over 79 games for Montgomery, and his .540 slugging percentage led the Double-A South.


Still, he's listed as a 2B, and Lowe (presumably) has that locked down. Maybe they think Aranda can play third? EDIT: More likely it's a Rule 5 move, but he's still an interesting piece of the puzzle.
   4. asinwreck Posted: December 01, 2021 at 09:36 AM (#6055515)
I like what Kim Ng did this week. Weirdly, all the Marlins moves for the week would have been perfect for filling the holes on her original employer's roster in Bridgeport.
   5. SoSH U at work Posted: December 01, 2021 at 09:56 AM (#6055519)
The Marlins got outstanding starting pitching last year from everyone but Luzardo. If that holds, they're probably not as far from competing as their record would suggest.
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 01, 2021 at 10:02 AM (#6055520)
Wendle will be 32 in April, slumped the last two months of the year, and will make around $4M next year, so IMO, it's not that difficult to figure. The Rays cut bait before players turn into pumpkins and they'll probably sign like Kelvin Gutierrez or someone and turn them into an All-Star.
   7. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: December 01, 2021 at 10:47 AM (#6055533)
I think the Rays made this trade for two primary reasons:
1) Wendle is heading in the wrong direction, is on the wrong side of 30, and is starting to make money. He was an All-Star in 2021, but he slumped later in the year, and (I suspect) his perceived value is higher than is actual value going forward. The Rays may not have gotten a ton back in exchange, but they were able to trade him without eating any salary, or taking back any salary. In a year, that might not be doable.

2) I believe they needed some room on the 40-man (I'm not sure if Misner is going on the 40-man).

Wendle has been a useful player, at a very affordable price, but the "affordable price" line and the "useful player" lines are about to cross in the wrong directions, and one of the Rays' great strengths is to get out of those situations before it is too late. This is the latest such example.
   8. Willard Baseball Posted: December 01, 2021 at 11:09 AM (#6055541)
Misner throws LH...so I doubt he can play 3B. I only put doubt because the Rays might be able to pull that off also!
   9. The Honorable Ardo Posted: December 01, 2021 at 11:26 AM (#6055545)
The 2016 Oakland A's had 26-year-old Wendle and 25-year-old Max Muncy, and didn't give either of them much of a chance. Not Billy Beane's finest hour.
   10. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 01, 2021 at 11:32 AM (#6055549)
Yea, Misner is an OF. Not sure why the article says 3B. I wanted the Royals to draft him out of Mizzou.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 01, 2021 at 12:45 PM (#6055566)
The Rays may not have gotten a ton back in exchange, but they were able to trade him without eating any salary, or taking back any salary. In a year, that might not be doable.

You never have to eat salary on an arb guy; you just non-tender him if he sucks.
   12. DCA Posted: December 01, 2021 at 02:29 PM (#6055603)
The 2016 Oakland A's had 26-year-old Wendle and 25-year-old Max Muncy, and didn't give either of them much of a chance

To be fair, they were really bad in the chance they did get (Muncy 245 PA in 2015-16, Wendle 104 PA in 2016) and neither had a minors track record that suggested anything more than roster filler.

Muncy's bat took a leap forward in LA, and I think Wendle's glove did in TB (harder to measure, but he was 2B only and I don't think considered particularly good it as real prospect in Cleveland and ex-prospect in Oakland).
   13. You can keep your massive haul Posted: December 01, 2021 at 03:34 PM (#6055624)
You never have to eat salary on an arb guy; you just non-tender him if he sucks.


I'd guess internally the Rays considered Wendle a non-tender and got a (I would also guess) non 40 man interesting guy for him. Who cares if Wendle was an all-star in 2021.
   14. DCA Posted: December 01, 2021 at 03:50 PM (#6055631)
That seems unlikely. Wendle is pretty good. After Lowe and Wander, he's pretty clearly the Rays 3rd best infielder after Adames was shipped out (related: is Rasmussen for real?) and he's not particularly expensive.

Misner's a fine prospect to get in return for a guy who is excess to requirements, but Wendle's not that. There has to be someone else coming in.
   15. Buck Coats Posted: December 01, 2021 at 06:09 PM (#6055676)
Yeah I don't think they considered Wendle a non-tender, but they had to free up a spot on the 40-man for Kluber
   16. Walt Davis Posted: December 02, 2021 at 07:29 AM (#6055791)
they had to free up a spot on the 40-man for Kluber

Surely like everybody else they have 38 relievers on the 40-man, couldn't one of them take the hit?
   17. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: December 02, 2021 at 10:59 AM (#6055840)
Surely like everybody else they have 38 relievers on the 40-man, couldn't one of them take the hit?


You haven't watched the Rays much have you? Their fetish for relievers is STRONG.

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