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Mitch Williams, Lenny Dykstra clash during Philly Sports Roast (Video) | Big League Stew - Yahoo Sports

Oh. dear.

Jim Furtado Posted: May 05, 2015 at 09:55 PM | 44 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: lenny dykstra, mitch williams, phillies

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   1. Jack Sommers Posted: May 05, 2015 at 10:50 PM (#4948427)
I gotta admit....I took perverse pleasure in that, in a Jerry Springer type of way. Nails owned wild thing there for a while, but should have quit when he was ahead.
   2. Zonk demands an audit of your post Posted: May 05, 2015 at 10:53 PM (#4948431)
Put them both in prison. It's the only fair and safe solution I can think of... well, since I don't believe in capital punishment.
   3. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: May 05, 2015 at 11:08 PM (#4948458)
So who's getting roasted here?
   4. Tin Angel Posted: May 05, 2015 at 11:14 PM (#4948463)
Man, Mitch Williams is hammered.
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 05, 2015 at 11:15 PM (#4948464)
I don't understand how the likes of Lenny Dykstra and Denny McLain are invited to participate in such events rather than being shunned for all eternity. And who decided to serve booze?
   6. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: May 05, 2015 at 11:18 PM (#4948468)
I suppose they could've served a bag of Twizzlers.
   7. Rob_Wood Posted: May 05, 2015 at 11:28 PM (#4948472)
I can't wait for Mitch Williams to come back to MLB Network!
   8. just plain joe Posted: May 05, 2015 at 11:56 PM (#4948498)
Put them both in prison. It's the only fair and safe solution I can think of... well, since I don't believe in capital punishment.


I thought that Dykstra was in prison.
   9. DanO Posted: May 06, 2015 at 12:47 AM (#4948526)
Wow, that was really painful. Apparently, Lenny Dykstra, Mitch Williams, and a whole lot of alcohol are a terrible combination.

Do you think either of them have sufficient self-awareness to be embarrassed about this after sobering up?
   10. Jack Sommers Posted: May 06, 2015 at 12:49 AM (#4948529)
Lenny got out almost 2 years ago. He is on a supervised release program. Hope he wasn't drinking.

As for the thing with Williams, I assume most remember THIS, but some might not.

   11. Ray (CTL) Posted: May 06, 2015 at 12:50 AM (#4948530)
A few things:

1. Did Dykstra always look and sound sort of stoned when he was younger?

2. Dykstra had a great 1993 WS.

3. I had thought Williams was a better pitcher for his career, and I knew he was wild but over 7 walks per 9 innings is something that surprised me.

4. Was Williams the best Phillies reliever left to face Joe Carter there? I haven't looked. I know Andersen had already been used.
   12. Ray (CTL) Posted: May 06, 2015 at 12:51 AM (#4948532)
Video of the 1993 WS Game 6.
   13. Bote Man Posted: May 06, 2015 at 01:11 AM (#4948548)
Nails owned wild thing there for a while, but should have quit when he was ahead.

Yeah, he was good at first, but then he went too far.
   14. Jack Sommers Posted: May 06, 2015 at 01:26 AM (#4948556)
3. I had thought Williams was a better pitcher for his career, and I knew he was wild but over 7 walks per 9 innings is something that surprised me.


Williams was terrible. I've listened a couple times to lenny talking about how traumatized he was by playing behind him. It's actually funny stuff, but rooted in truth. How Williams kept that job I'll never know. EDIT: Well, actually I do know. Stupid save stat.
   15. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: May 06, 2015 at 01:48 AM (#4948560)
In 1991, Williams was great. He got a Cy vote. 157 ERA+ in 88 innings.

I mean, he walked more than guys got hits against him.
   16. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: May 06, 2015 at 01:58 AM (#4948561)
Lenny Dykstra, Mitch Williams, and a whole lot of alcohol are a terrible combination.

Is that even legal?
   17. Jeltzandini Posted: May 06, 2015 at 03:37 AM (#4948570)
The 93 team was fun to watch. As people though...

Was Williams the best Phillies reliever left to face Joe Carter there? I haven't looked. I know Andersen had already been used.


Relievers left both had the platoon advantage against Carter: Ben Rivera and Bobby Thigpen. Each had been terrible all year and had one terrible year left in baseball. Williams had just been bad all year, with two terrible years left in baseball. The other starters were also available, with Curt Schilling on one day's rest after a 147 pitch shutout in game 5. There weren't a lot of options. Williams had the whole stupid "yeah he'll walk the bases loaded but then he'll get out of it!" closer vibe that people believed, until the 1993 World Series made them not believe.
   18. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Fred Posted: May 06, 2015 at 07:54 AM (#4948585)
Dykstra's shenanigans is one of those irrelevant side stories we had to hear about ad nauseum. Like John Burkett's bowling.

If this is the stuff that turns you on NBC's hideous Olympics coverage is the place for you.
   19. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: May 06, 2015 at 09:15 AM (#4948622)
Video of the 1993 WS Game 6.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone look as happy as Carter does when he's running the bases after the home run. It almost seems like he's not going to make it, because he's likely to stop and jump up and down for a while and then pass out from pure joy.
   20. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: May 06, 2015 at 09:32 AM (#4948638)
Wow, was that ugly. This is tailor-made for a special episode of "Celebrity Boxing".
   21. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 06, 2015 at 09:40 AM (#4948649)
Is Celebrity Boxing still a thing? I think the last time I was aware of it was when Manute Bol was fighting Refrigerator Perry. Now they're both long dead.
   22. simon bedford Posted: May 06, 2015 at 09:50 AM (#4948658)
"In 1996, the MLB All-Star game was held in Philadelphia. The network broadcasting the game set up a bowling match between Williams and Carter at Williams' own lanes. Before the match Williams jokingly stated that Carter had no chance to win because Williams played every day. Williams did not know that Carter had been a talented bowler growing up. Carter got to the bowling alley and on his first warm up roll took a couple steps, spun around 180 degrees and rolled the ball between his legs, backwards, for a strike. Carter won the match handily."

This I remember seeing
   23. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 06, 2015 at 09:54 AM (#4948664)
Is Celebrity Boxing still a thing? I think the last time I was aware of it was when Manute Bol was fighting Refrigerator Perry. Now they're both long dead.


Or, at least 50 percent of them are.
   24. J in the Slope Posted: May 06, 2015 at 10:03 AM (#4948672)
This is the most Philadelphia thing I've ever watched.
   25. Itchy Row Posted: May 06, 2015 at 10:15 AM (#4948682)
Or, at least 50 percent of them are.
By volume, 10 percent of those two are dead.
   26. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 06, 2015 at 10:16 AM (#4948684)
Huh, I thought for sure that Perry was dead. Like I would have bet money on it and everything.
   27. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: May 06, 2015 at 10:48 AM (#4948728)
From a 2009 article: http://www.thestar.com/sports/2009/04/02/joe_carter_what_about_me.html

Carter still talks occasionally with Williams, and got the better of the reliever in a celebrity bowling match in 1998. Williams, an accomplished bowler who owned the alley where the match was held, did not know Carter had grown up bowling regularly with his dad.


"I went out there in the first game and bowled a 245 and just killed him," Carter said. "I killed him three straight games, it just demoralized him. After I threw the first ball between my legs and threw it for a strike, (Mitch's) best friend said, 'I've got $1,000 on Joe.'''
   28. Mudpout Posted: May 06, 2015 at 11:00 AM (#4948741)
Stories like this almost make me feel bad for Williams. I mean, not only does the guy essentially end your time as an employable ML pitcher with one swing in the biggest stage possible, five years later he comes into your bowling alley, the one you own and work at, the place that has become your life after the utter ruin that was the end of your baseball career, and destroys you in front of a television crew to the point where your best friend switches sides.

I mean, I love Joe Carter, seems like a great guy, but somewhere in all this there's a Wicked-style interpretation of Mitch's life and career that paints him as a flawed but sympathetic figure who can never escape the constant efforts of Joe Carter to ruin any chance he has at happiness.
   29. Itchy Row Posted: May 06, 2015 at 11:22 AM (#4948766)
More talented car-washers probably showed up at Dykstra's business all the time, many of them with more ashtray money.
   30. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: May 06, 2015 at 11:40 AM (#4948779)
Man. That's amazing. And Williams is absolutely hammered!
   31. Rants Mulliniks Posted: May 06, 2015 at 11:54 AM (#4948794)
"I killed him three straight games, it just demoralized him.


I can't help it, but I can't stop laughing at this.

And the video.....yeeesh.
   32. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 06, 2015 at 01:34 PM (#4948942)
I'll have to watch this when I get home tonight.

Ray, yeah, Nails always sounded kinda stoned to me. Maybe it's just poor enunciation, the surfer dude style (he's from SoCal, right?)

He's definitely one of those guys that I wish I had never heard of off the diamond. So much fun as a young player for a few years, but my gawd what a waste of space as a human being.
   33. Itchy Row Posted: May 06, 2015 at 01:57 PM (#4948965)
I see that as Mitch Williams being hammered and, while he may have been drinking too, Dykstra being himself.
   34. theboyqueen Posted: May 06, 2015 at 02:21 PM (#4948995)
Agreed. I don't find it hard to sympathize with Mitch Williams. Dysktra is a straight-up sociopath.
   35. Captain Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: May 06, 2015 at 08:52 PM (#4949410)
Dumb and Dumber.
   36. Trundle the Great Posted: May 07, 2015 at 12:56 AM (#4949659)
Dumb and Dumber.


That's every roaster ever (except for Norm MacDonald, who was talked into "roasting" Bob Saget and instead just recited a bunch of old-timey jokes).

   37. Meatwad Posted: May 07, 2015 at 02:10 AM (#4949666)
oh my, you just norm went up there to bomb for fun.
   38. Jack Sommers Posted: May 07, 2015 at 06:33 AM (#4949675)
Stories like this almost make me feel bad for Williams. I mean, not only does the guy essentially end your time as an employable ML pitcher with one swing in the biggest stage possible, five years later he comes into your bowling alley, the one you own and work at, the place that has become your life after the utter ruin that was the end of your baseball career, and destroys you in front of a television crew to the point where your best friend switches sides.

I mean, I love Joe Carter, seems like a great guy, but somewhere in all this there's a Wicked-style interpretation of Mitch's life and career that paints him as a flawed but sympathetic figure who can never escape the constant efforts of Joe Carter to ruin any chance he has at happiness.


I wonder if it was anything Like this
   39. Rusty Priske Posted: May 07, 2015 at 09:32 AM (#4949723)
This was just sad.
   40. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: May 07, 2015 at 09:37 AM (#4949731)
Whole lotta cringe in that video. If you're at a public forum where you'll be on-stage and expected to speak and still insist on getting absolutely hammered, you're gonna have a bad time.
   41. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: May 07, 2015 at 10:43 AM (#4949804)
Also, whoever thought to himself "I have a great idea... let's get Lenny Dykstra and Mitch Williams drunk and put them on stage together with microphones" is one evil person.
   42. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 07, 2015 at 01:05 PM (#4949958)

I don't think Dykstra was drunk in that video. Williams, on the other hand...
   43. Captain Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: May 07, 2015 at 07:17 PM (#4950346)
I think Dykstra had some sort of buzz going.
   44. depletion Posted: May 07, 2015 at 10:10 PM (#4950457)
Can some team hire these two to do play-by-play and color commentary?

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