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Friday, November 06, 2020

MLB does not punish Dodgers’ Justin Turner for celebrating after positive coronavirus test

Major League Baseball on Friday announced that it will not discipline Justin Turner for his decision to return to the field to celebrate the Dodgers winning the World Series after testing positive for the coronavirus.

The league said the decision was made following an investigation. MLB initially placed blame solely on Turner the day after the Dodgers beat the Tampa Bay Rays for their first championship in 32 years, stating that “it is clear that Turner chose to disregard the agreed-upon joint protocols and the instructions he was given regarding the safety and protection of others.”

The league struck a different tone Friday, citing different factors that helped lead to Turner going onto the field for an extended period of time, including the league’s own missteps.

“Finally, Major League Baseball could have handled the situation more effectively. For example, in retrospect, a security person should have been assigned to monitor Mr. Turner when he was asked to isolate, and Mr. Turner should have been transported from the stadium to the hotel more promptly.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 06, 2020 at 03:31 PM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: coronavirus, justin turner

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   1. Tom Goes to the Ballpark Posted: November 06, 2020 at 06:08 PM (#5987604)
What is clear from the statements:
1) Turner shouldn’t have done what he did
2) MLB’s protocol was weak/faulty since Turner was not taken to the hotel immediately
3) Dodgers players/coaches/staff weren’t really paying attention/caring since they just won the World Series

What is unclear from the statements is whether MLB could have punished Turner or the Dodgers if they felt that a punishment was justified. Also, it is probably not a coincidence that this dropped on a Friday during the election wrap up. It seems that this didn’t lead to a super spreader event and everyone involved would be happy if the public and the media just kind of forgot about it.
   2. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 06, 2020 at 06:15 PM (#5987606)
It seems that this didn’t lead to a super spreader event
If it did, we probably wouldn't know. Any players (or others) who got it would be under no obligation to disclose, and with the season being over, there would be no "mystery IL" stints to identify positive players. I'm sure MLB would exert significant pressure to keep it quiet if it did transmit.
   3. Lars6788 Posted: November 06, 2020 at 06:32 PM (#5987608)
If Turner wasn’t such a fan favorite, I can imagine the snark flying and at least a couple of sanctimoniously annoying columns making a big deal about putting everyone at risk and how he deserves some punishment like he was a kid.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: November 06, 2020 at 07:26 PM (#5987614)
I suspect it never would have resulted in any penalty more serious than Turner agreeing to make a donation to frontline healthcare workers. I was reasonably critical and still think he, and apparently also MLB, messed up but it never really required harsh punishment. And I suppose technically the season was over when he violated the rules which would have been a fun one to watch the arbitrator work through. Given how quickly they slapped together protocols, etc. I wouldn't be surprised to find there wasn't a clear end-date for the agreement.
   5. Tom Goes to the Ballpark Posted: November 06, 2020 at 08:16 PM (#5987619)
If it did, we probably wouldn't know.
Naw, if there were a bunch of other positive results people would be leaking to the media like crazy. The only other positive result we know of is a member of the Rays traveling party and we found that out within 24 hours.
   6. Cblau Posted: November 06, 2020 at 08:22 PM (#5987621)
So, it's MLB's fault for not treating Turner like a child?
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: November 06, 2020 at 08:36 PM (#5987623)
Chase Utley and Justin Turner - being a Dodger means never having to face penalties for transgressions

#thedodgerway
   8. Jeff Francoeur's OPS Posted: November 06, 2020 at 09:29 PM (#5987629)
Boo? #### you.
   9. Kiko Sakata Posted: November 06, 2020 at 09:50 PM (#5987633)
   10. Tom Goes to the Ballpark Posted: November 06, 2020 at 10:17 PM (#5987637)
Chase Utley and Justin Turner - being a Dodger means never having to face penalties for transgressions
Hopefully one day we can get to the bottom of why people who don’t break the rules don’t get punished.
   11. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: November 06, 2020 at 11:16 PM (#5987641)
Hopefully one day we can get to the bottom of why people who don’t break the rules don’t get punished.
it's all been done.
   12. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 07, 2020 at 09:54 AM (#5987654)
The “reasoning” in Manfred’s statement is an exercise in motivated rationalization. Yet again, Manfred goes out of his way to avoid enforcing anything against a player or players.
   13. JRVJ Posted: November 07, 2020 at 11:25 AM (#5987663)
I hadn't had a chance to opine about this. This was a clear news dump by MLB, which chose to sweep this under the rug.

I have already pointed out that I think that MLB should have suspended people for this, especially Turner (I don't care if you won the WS. You have COVID-19, and the pandemic had been raging in the U.S. for 7 months at the time. You don't need "guidance" about what to do, other than for God's sake, not expose anybody else).

The only reason that sort of, kind of justifies what MLB did is that it was a way to move this off the headlines.
   14. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: November 07, 2020 at 11:36 AM (#5987664)
Ray Ratto @RattoIndy
NHL Network calls the election for Biden/Harris

   15. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: November 07, 2020 at 03:38 PM (#5987689)


Five people associated with Dodgers organization have tested positive


Supposedly none were in the MLB bubble.
   16. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: November 07, 2020 at 09:41 PM (#5987788)
Manfred said he spoke with Turner and “I am closing this matter by applauding Justin for accepting responsibility, apologizing and making a commitment to set a positive example going forward.”

What a paper suit.
   17. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: November 07, 2020 at 10:22 PM (#5987791)
As much as I think what turner did was irresponsible I blame MLB not him. They needed to be the adults and tell him not to go outthere.
   18. Meatwad Posted: November 07, 2020 at 10:39 PM (#5987794)
Wrong thread
   19. Howie Menckel Posted: November 07, 2020 at 10:53 PM (#5987797)
They needed to be the adults and tell him not to go outthere.

Little Boy Turner turns age 36 this month.

at what point will he reach adulthood?
   20. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: November 07, 2020 at 11:45 PM (#5987805)
at what point will he reach adulthood?

well...
   21. MuttsIdolCochrane Posted: November 08, 2020 at 04:57 AM (#5987817)
Of course Manfred did not punish him. After not punishing to Astros and Red Sox for cheating to win the world series, punishing Turner was not an option.
   22. Captain Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: November 08, 2020 at 08:44 AM (#5987822)
If Turner wasn’t such a fan favorite, I can imagine the snark flying and at least a couple of sanctimoniously annoying columns making a big deal about putting everyone at risk and how he deserves some punishment like he was a kid.


Does he deserve to be punished like he was an adult? Would you be ok with that?

It's time to put on the mask.
   23. bfan Posted: November 10, 2020 at 02:36 PM (#5988135)
Chase Utley and Justin Turner - being a Dodger means never having to face penalties for transgressions

#thedodgerway


And let's not forget Andrew Friedman's shenanigans in the off-shore/island/free agent signing world, vs. what John Coppolella did, and what their comparative punishments were.

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