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MLB in talks to launch nationwide streaming service for home games without cable TV

Major League Baseball is in talks to launch a nationwide video-streaming service that would enable fans to watch their teams’ hometown games without a cable-TV subscription, The Post has learned.

The web-based service — which could address a decades-old annoyance for baseball fans that some have partly blamed for the league’s steadily declining viewership — could launch as early as the 2023 season, a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations said.

The National Basketball Association and the National Hockey League are also considering partnering with MLB on the new streaming service, sources said. Insiders say subscription rates would vary by geographic market and could be between $10 and $20 a month — well below the monthly cost of most cable-TV packages, which can easily stretch past $100.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 18, 2021 at 12:02 AM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 18, 2021 at 12:09 AM (#6047088)
cost of most cable-TV packages


Is this still a thing in the USA? Do people actually buy cable packages?

I don't know of anyone in Sydney who has a cable package. Everyone just pays like $10 per month to 3-5 different streaming services and watches those.
   2. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 18, 2021 at 12:18 AM (#6047093)
That’s the way it’s headed in the US too, but if you hadn’t noticed, our boomers seem to be a bit more stubborn than the rest of the world’s boomers. And not for nothing, a lot of people are getting annoyed (justifiably so, IMO) at the endless proliferation of streaming services and ever-fragmenting content market. Having to keep track of which 12 services you subscribe to and which 27 you don’t is a pain.
   3. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: October 18, 2021 at 12:33 AM (#6047096)
Currently, I'm watching the Dodgers - AND EVERY OTHER SPORTING EVENT, FROM THE WNBA FINALS TO EURO SOCCER - through a pirated stream. I'd love to take the legal route, with money being exchanged for a good I value, but there simply is no way for me to do so without feeling gouged.

Pre-pirating, I was paying about $100/month for cable, which was watched almost solely for sports. That went away about a month before the pandemic struck, and I've never looked back.
   4. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: October 18, 2021 at 12:34 AM (#6047097)
In a related note:
Many Sinclair local broadcast affiliates were affected by a reported ransomware attack, impacting NFL broadcasts
   5. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 18, 2021 at 08:06 AM (#6047104)
Cable companies are the worst, but a streaming service that includes SNY for Mets games would cost me $65 a month, which probably isn't that much less than what I pay for cable (I get internet, cable and phone bundled so I don't know the price of just cable here).
   6. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 18, 2021 at 08:16 AM (#6047106)
Cable packages or streaming services (e.g. YouTube TV, Sling, Fubo) because those are the only ways to get local stations and local sports. I wouldn't begin to know how to pirate a broadcast Gold Star style so it's my only option.

Like Inge in #5 the cost of the streaming service isn't much less than a cable service but the convenience of it makes it worthwhile to me. It's so nice not to have to drag wires all around my house and the big clunky box.
   7. John DiFool2 Posted: October 18, 2021 at 09:31 AM (#6047113)
Cable ap0arently never bothered to try the a la carte option...
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 18, 2021 at 10:24 AM (#6047124)
The headline says only home games, but the article doesn't quite say that. Why would they only broadcast home games?

Cable companies are the worst, but a streaming service that includes SNY for Mets games would cost me $65 a mont


This would be $10-20 per month, according to the article.
   9. McCoy Posted: October 18, 2021 at 10:30 AM (#6047126)
Re 6. You literally just Google MLB streaming or so I here.
   10. Stevey Posted: October 18, 2021 at 10:50 AM (#6047136)
I'd love to take the legal route, with money being exchanged for a good I value, but there simply is no way for me to do so without feeling gouged.


You're welcome for subsidizing your sports viewing.
   11. Greg Pope Posted: October 18, 2021 at 12:44 PM (#6047157)
Yeah, I don't think that feeling gouged is a reason to do something illegal.

The ones I feel bad for are people in places like Nevada and Iowa. There is actually no way for them to legally watch a good percentage of games. Des Moines TV stations don't carry any of the 6 blacked out teams. So if you're a Cardinals fan there is no way to watch your team. And on any given day, 6 games could be blacked out, which means that you could have as many as 12 teams not be available to you that day. So if you're a Giants fan, you'll miss out on a good chunk of their games, too. And you can't pay to get them.
   12. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 18, 2021 at 01:17 PM (#6047170)
The ones I feel bad for are people in places like Nevada and Iowa. There is actually no way for them to legally watch a good percentage of games.


Those are the ones I don't get. If MLB wants to enforce a blackout in a place where I can watch a game legally well fair enough. It's their product and while I think it's a bit harsh I get it. But why someone in Iowa is blacked out on a game he literally can't acquire any other way is nonsense.
   13. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 18, 2021 at 01:18 PM (#6047172)
You're welcome for subsidizing your sports viewing.


Yeah, a big part of this is sports fans losing the free ride we've had for a long time.
   14. tonywagner Posted: October 18, 2021 at 01:50 PM (#6047179)
The ones I feel bad for are people in places like Nevada and Iowa. There is actually no way for them to legally watch a good percentage of games. Des Moines TV stations don't carry any of the 6 blacked out teams.

That's not strictly true. I don't know about cable, but as far as I can tell, DirecTV Stream (formerly AT&T TV etc.) carries 3 RSNs in Des Moines, covering 4 of the 6 MLBTV blackout teams: Cardinals, Royals, White Sox, and Cubs. $85/month but no contract, no equipment. Of course, that varies by location around the state -- I think northern Iowa can get the Twins or Brewers but maybe loses Cardinals and Royals, etc. With DirecTV via satellite, Des Moines gets all 6 of the MLBTV blackout teams, although then you have equipment and a contract.

Could definitely stand to be easier and cheaper but there are still legal ways, even in Iowa.
   15. DL from MN Posted: October 18, 2021 at 01:51 PM (#6047180)
Could this fuel expansion? The Carolinas and Tennessee have NBA/NHL but no MLB. Montreal would be a lucrative place to sell hockey streaming rights but has no MLB team.

The Spurs and Blazers have no direct summer MLB counterpart but the Astros/Rangers could work for San Antonio and the Mariners have a following in Portland.
   16. tonywagner Posted: October 18, 2021 at 01:54 PM (#6047181)
Likewise, in Las Vegas, DirecTV Stream carries all 5 of the California MLB teams. DirecTV via satellite would add the Diamondbacks too.

Edit: and in Honolulu, DirecTV stream carries all 5 of the California MLB teams too.
   17. Greg Pope Posted: October 18, 2021 at 04:26 PM (#6047225)
Could definitely stand to be easier and cheaper but there are still legal ways, even in Iowa.

OK, I'm out of date then.
   18. Walt Davis Posted: October 18, 2021 at 07:56 PM (#6047264)
The big question is -- is this team, locally-generated revenue or is this shared, nationally-generated revenue? The Cubs, Yankees, Dodgers, etc. would not be happy to have even more of their broadcast revenue taken away.

Surely the easiest way to run/market it is to run it through MLBtv but that's not where the revenue should be going (beyond a service fee or whatever). I've never understood how MLBtv could generate so much revenue -- how many people want out-of-market baseball? If you're a Cub fan in LA (or better, Australia), it's fine value ... without Cub games, there's no way I'd subscribe. So a package of MLBtv for one home-market team of your choice costs $100 a year; adding a second in-market team costs $50; adding out-of-market costs an extra $20-30. (Hopefully re-define "market" so Iowa doesn't have 6 teams ... I intend that mainly for NY, LA, Chi area subscribers.) In places where there's no market (i.e. me, maybe a few other places), $100 for everything.
   19. Adam Starblind Posted: October 18, 2021 at 08:24 PM (#6047273)
There’s always the Blue Sox, Walt. Such a shame that Manny didn’t work out.
   20. DL from MN Posted: October 18, 2021 at 09:55 PM (#6047313)
If they're smart they don't take any revenue out of the operation for several years until it gets bought out by Disney/ESPN.
   21. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 18, 2021 at 10:42 PM (#6047321)
I'd love to take the legal route, with money being exchanged for a good I value, but there simply is no way for me to do so without feeling gouged.


Yeah, I don't think that feeling gouged is a reason to do something illegal.

Thank you Mr. Pope. I don't understand peoples attitude towards stealing content. I don't feel like I get good value by spending $75,000 for a Mercedes, but my response is to drive a Jeep, not steal a Mercedes.
   22. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 18, 2021 at 10:49 PM (#6047324)

The big question is -- is this team, locally-generated revenue or is this shared, nationally-generated revenue?


From TFA:

As for the teams, MLB’s streaming service would pay them based on viewership in their local markets.

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