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Saturday, May 08, 2010

MLB:  Moyer sets mark with two-hit shutout

He became the oldest pitcher in big league history to throw a shutout. Phil Niekro threw one in 1985, at age 46 years, 188 days. Moyer is almost a full year older (47-170).

I look forward to watching Moyer becoming the oldest player to win 300 games, some time after his 50th birthday.

Srul Itza Posted: May 08, 2010 at 02:37 AM | 41 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: May 08, 2010 at 03:02 AM (#3526383)
AWESOME!! 38 more, baby ... not entirely unthinkable ...
   2. Latnam's first name is Bob Lemon's middle name Posted: May 08, 2010 at 03:08 AM (#3526384)
To be fair, this game was against the Braves, who were in turn without Heyward. It was basically a AA lineup.

/Hyperbole... barely
   3. Swoboda is freedom Posted: May 08, 2010 at 03:29 AM (#3526394)
a real chance to celebrate the brilliance of a 47 year old getting by on an 83 mph fastball.

So that means I could have been a major leaguer. When I was in high school, my fastball was about 82.
   4. Natty Fan Posted: May 08, 2010 at 03:33 AM (#3526397)
So, does Bobby Cox think his team was the victim of some "bad pitches" again?
   5. Brian White Posted: May 08, 2010 at 03:35 AM (#3526399)
/Hyperbole... barely


Barely? That's definitely hyperbole. Trying to exaggerate a Pioneer League-level offense as being AA-worthy? C'mon.
   6. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: May 08, 2010 at 04:32 AM (#3526438)
So, does Bobby Cox think his team was the victim of some "bad pitches" again?

Probably. Moyer isn't going to have success without a wide plate.

No hit for seven by Olsen last night, two hit by Moyer tonight. The lineup without Heyward and McCann...not so good.
   7. base ball chick Posted: May 08, 2010 at 04:34 AM (#3526440)
this can't be true - the guy that threw the 2 hit shutout against the astros was some AAA pitcher from the padres
   8. bobm Posted: May 08, 2010 at 04:38 AM (#3526442)
This was Moyer's 3rd 2-hit shutout. From BB-REF:

Age 23 y 271 d: 8/16/86 for Chicago against Montreal
Age 43 y 196 d: 6/2/06 for Seattle against Kansas City
   9. Avoid Running At All Times- S. Paige Posted: May 08, 2010 at 04:45 AM (#3526447)
So the next one will happen when he's 67. Awesome!
   10. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 08, 2010 at 06:30 AM (#3526472)
Between his first complete game shutout of his career and this complete game shutout:
*15 different franchises have won the World Series
*4 different pitchers won at least 300 games during that time period.
*10 different batters hit at least 500 home runs during that time period
*5 presidents have been in charge, and two of them served two full terms during this period
*7 pitchers have won multiple Cy Young awards
   11. jwb Posted: May 08, 2010 at 10:09 AM (#3526498)
Last season's oldest player list:

1.    Moyer (PHI)    born 1962-11-18
2.    Johnson (SFG)    born 1963-09-10
3.    Wakefield (BOS)    born 1966-08-02
4.    Vizquel (TEX)    born 1967-04-24
5.    Smoltz (TOT)    born 1967-05-15
6.    Brocail (HOU)    born 1967-05-16
7.    Hoffman (MIL)    born 1967-10-13
8.    Gordon (ARI)    born 1967-11-18
9.    Stairs (PHI)    born 1968-02-27
10.    Shouse (TBR)    born 1968-09-26 


Johnson, Smoltz, Brocail, Gordon, and Shouse have either retired or don't have contracts. Italic and code tags don't play well together.

He's not just the oldest player in baseball. He's the oldest player in baseball by four years.
   12. AndrewJ Posted: May 08, 2010 at 10:45 AM (#3526504)
The TASER incident, the death of Robin Roberts, this masterpiece by Moyer... A pretty astonishing week for the Phillies.


Jamie Moyer made his MLB debut the day before the Boston Celtics drafted Len Bias.
   13. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: May 08, 2010 at 02:12 PM (#3526559)

Jamie Moyer made his MLB debut the day before the Boston Celtics drafted Len Bias.

Betty White was not eligible for full Social Security.
   14. Spahn Insane Posted: May 08, 2010 at 02:21 PM (#3526560)
Age 23 y 271 d: 8/16/86 for Chicago against Montreal

I attended his following start, against the Reds at Wrigley. I was 14. God, that's depressing.

EDIT: The leadoff hitter for the Reds was rookie shortstop Barry Larkin...
   15. Spahn Insane Posted: May 08, 2010 at 02:22 PM (#3526563)
I had no idea Brian Shouse was anywhere near that old. I also didn't know until now that he's from Effingham, Illinois.
   16. Swedish Chef Posted: May 08, 2010 at 02:29 PM (#3526569)
Between his first complete game shutout of his career and this complete game shutout:

* The dinosaurs ruled the Earth and went extinct.
   17. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: May 08, 2010 at 02:49 PM (#3526581)
I look forward to watching Moyer passing Cy Young, some time after his 70th birthday.
   18. UCCF Posted: May 08, 2010 at 03:20 PM (#3526589)
Age 23 y 271 d: 8/16/86 for Chicago against Montreal

News from that date -

A five-mile section of highway through suburban Salt Lake City will be opened Sunday, completing the nation's first transcontinental interstate highway, the 2,907-mile Interstate 80, officials said Friday. The completed route will connect California State Route 480, San Francisco's Embarcadero Freeway, with Interstate 95 at Teaneck, N.J.

There was no transcontinental interstate when Moyer pitched his last shutout.
   19. phatj Posted: May 08, 2010 at 03:33 PM (#3526603)
Not quite... his *first* shutout.
   20. Bob Meta-Meusel Posted: May 08, 2010 at 03:51 PM (#3526609)
The losing pitcher in Moyer's major league debut (which he won) was Steve Carlton.
Carlton's first ML appearance was in relief, in a game that Bob Gibson Started for the Cardinals.
Gibson's first appearance in relief with the Cardinals; Don Drysdale pitched a shutout for the Dodgers in that game.
Drysdale's first major league appearance was a relief stint in a Dodgers vs. Phillies game, with a complete game by... Robin Roberts.

Quite a string of hall of famers there, and it all comes back to Robin Roberts this week.
   21. Spahn Insane Posted: May 08, 2010 at 05:42 PM (#3526682)
A five-mile section of highway through suburban Salt Lake City will be opened Sunday, completing the nation's first transcontinental interstate highway, the 2,907-mile Interstate 80, officials said Friday.

I-90 didn't span the whole continent then? Huh.
   22. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: May 08, 2010 at 06:50 PM (#3526734)
Chipper Jones's frustration is understandable. Omar Infante? Martin Prado? David Ross? And in fact, the only members of their lineup tonight who are hitting more than .250 right now are...Omar Infante and Martin Prado. Not exactly the Angels lineup that got no-hit by Eric Milton, but not what we were expecting to easily outpace the Mets this year.

Fantastic night of Baseball Tonight last night.
   23. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: May 09, 2010 at 02:34 PM (#3527297)
Moyer plays on the 2010 Phillies, which includes some guys who should play well into the 2020s.
Moyer played on the '86 Cubs with Ron Cey.
Cey played on the '71 Dodgers with Hoyt Wilhelm.
Wilhelm played on '52 Giants with Bob Elliott.
Elliott played on the '39 Pirates with Heinie Manush.
Manush played on the '23 Tigers with Fred Carisch.
Carisch played on the 1903 Pirates with Brickyard Kennedy.
Kennedy played on the 1892 Dodgers with Dave Foutz.
Foutz played on the 1884 Browns with Joe Quest.
And Quest played on the 1871 Cleveland Forest Citys...who played in the very first pro league game ever.

Wow.
   24. Tuque Posted: May 09, 2010 at 03:45 PM (#3527342)
I was taught how to throw a curveball by a guy who played for the AA team in the 1968 Yankees farm system. I wish there was a way to see if I was connected with anyone.
   25. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: May 09, 2010 at 04:12 PM (#3527351)
What was his name?
   26. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 09, 2010 at 04:29 PM (#3527353)
(If we assume Moyer is slowly-but-surely building a Veterans' Committee HOF resume...)

Moyer pitched against Nolan Ryan in 1986.
Ryan pitched against Harmon Killebrew in 1972.
Killebrew batted against Early Wynn in 1959.
Early Wynn pitched against Bill Dickey in 1942.
Bill Dickey batted against Red Faber in 1928.
Red Faber pitched against Nap Lajoie in 1914.
Nap Lajoie batted against Kid Nichols in 1897.
Kid Nichols pitched against Cap Anson in 1890.
Cap Anson played in the very first season of professional league baseball (May 6 1871).
   27. Tuque Posted: May 09, 2010 at 05:04 PM (#3527369)
What was his name?

Robert Hefflinger.

His batting numbers are terrible, but I'm pretty sure that's because he was a pitcher. Why there aren't any records of his pitching stats I don't know.
   28. Tuque Posted: May 09, 2010 at 05:07 PM (#3527371)
Wait, I figured it out! I can be connected to Mickey Mantle through my Little League coach and Al Downing!

Holy crap!

edit: and Steve Garvey!

edit edit: and Dusty Baker! and Tommy John! and Don Sutton! This is the most exciting thing to happen to me in a while. I can't believe I never thought of this before.
   29. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: May 09, 2010 at 05:24 PM (#3527383)
If you connect to any major league player, you connect to them all.
   30. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: May 09, 2010 at 05:45 PM (#3527402)
If you connect to any major league player, you connect to them all.


One of the kids on my little league team is the great nephew of Charlie Manual

One of the kids on my soccer team last year is the great nephew of Ted Rogers, CEO of Rogers Communications, which owns the Blue Jays.
   31. Tuque Posted: May 09, 2010 at 05:47 PM (#3527404)
Well, yeah. But those guys are all in just three degrees.
   32. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: May 09, 2010 at 06:10 PM (#3527423)
Bruce Bochy once tried to kill me. Bochy was a teammate of Ed Whitson, who fought with Billy Martin, who fought with and/or drank with many of the all-time greats.
   33. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: May 09, 2010 at 06:19 PM (#3527433)
If you connect to any major league player, you connect to them all.

I wonder who the 'least connectable' player in MLB history would be. Probably somebody who got one at bat in the Union Association.
   34. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: May 09, 2010 at 06:23 PM (#3527442)
I wonder who the 'least connectable' player in MLB history would be. Probably somebody who got one at bat in the Union Association.


Three guys who played for the White Stockings in the National Association in 1871.
   35. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: May 09, 2010 at 06:42 PM (#3527468)
Wow, that baseball-reference has everything.
   36. PreservedFish Posted: May 09, 2010 at 06:48 PM (#3527478)
Wow, that baseball-reference has everything.


Especially those lovely new Jack in the Box ads. B-R used to be one of the web's great models of simplicity. But it has slowly become clunky and distracting.
   37. Spahn Insane Posted: May 09, 2010 at 07:03 PM (#3527498)
Manush played on the '23 Tigers with Fred Carisch.

I'd never heard of Carisch, so I looked him up. He played 2 games with no PAs in 1923, after having not played in the majors since 1914. Huh?
   38. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: May 09, 2010 at 07:09 PM (#3527507)
I'd never heard of Carisch, so I looked him up. He played 2 games with no PAs in 1923, after having not played in the majors since 1914. Huh?


He also had a six-year break earlier in his career.

Moyer was a teammate of Harold Baines in Baltimore. Baines played with Minnie Minoso in 1980. Minoso started in 1949.
   39. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: May 09, 2010 at 07:11 PM (#3527510)
Especially those lovely new Jack in the Box ads. B-R used to be one of the web's great models of simplicity. But it has slowly become clunky and distracting.


This reduces BB-ref's quality by about 0.00000001% in my book, and it certainly doesn't make the pages load any slower.
   40. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: May 09, 2010 at 07:12 PM (#3527513)
I'd never heard of Carisch, so I looked him up. He played 2 games with no PAs in 1923, after having not played in the majors since 1914. Huh?


Sounds like he was a coach who got thrown in to play defense in occasional emergencies.

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