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MLB Network to celebrate Derek Jeter’s career with 64 consecutive hours of Jeter programming

Hasn’t this country suffered enough?

If you ever wanted to relive the career of New York Yankees legend Derek Jeter, now’s your chance. MLB Network is celebrating Jeter’s debut by airing 64 consecutive hours of Jeter programming.

The event will begin Friday at 6 a.m. ET on MLB Network. It will feature 13 games, many of which will include milestones like Jeter’s first hit and Jeter’s final game. In between those games, MLB Network will feature programming focused around Jeter and historic looks at the 1995 Major League Baseball season, as well as World Series highlights from the seasons Jeter’s Yankees won it all. Jeter’s final game will close out the event. It will air Sunday at 8 p.m. ET.

While some have wondered whether that much Jeter is necessary, there’s no doubt Jeter is still among the most beloved MLB players even years after his retirement. Given the success ESPN had with “The Last Dance,” MLB Network could be looking for another star from the same era to carry the network to big ratings. That comparison isn’t perfect, as MLB Network’s event is not a documentary and will mostly focus on re-airing games.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 28, 2020 at 02:17 PM | 57 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: May 29, 2020 at 04:29 PM (#5954400)
Look, there's nothing live to broadcast, so I'm not going to ding somebody for trying something, anything, right now.

That said, what is the target audience for this idea? Yankees fans? I have no interest in watching any of this, because it is not that interesting. Derek Jeter is a 1st-ballot HOFer, but he is not an interesting, compelling personality. He was boring.

If I were MLB Network, I'd do a series of 48-hour marathons of more compelling historical players. I'd create a lineup, and promote the series. For example, Reggie Jackson - when you watch a game with him in it, he is one of the ultimate "stop what you're doing to watch him play" performers. The 1971 ASG; 3 HR World Series game; him fighting with Billy Martin in the dugout game; him breaking his leg in a home plate collision playoff game...there's so much material.

Do a 48-hour marathon of "burst onto the scene" players. Mark Fidrych in his breakout year; Fernando Mania in 1981; Ichiro's debut; Joe Charboneau...you get it.

The Greats' First Games: The first game of Griffey, Trout, Reggie, Clemens, Bonds, Yount, Brett, whatever you got footage for.

Baseball has a deeper history than any other American team sport; they should use it while live content is lacking...

   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 29, 2020 at 04:39 PM (#5954403)
In fairness, 64 hours of Jeter games is only what, three Yankees games?
   3. McCoy Posted: May 29, 2020 at 05:09 PM (#5954406)
1 if they're showing a vs Boston game.
   4. Itchy Row Posted: May 29, 2020 at 05:14 PM (#5954408)
The 64, of course, is a salute to the uniform number of Jeter's favorite teammate, Bronson Sardinha.
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 29, 2020 at 05:20 PM (#5954409)
Only 64 hours for the Jeterthon? Must have been tough to edit it down.
   6. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: May 29, 2020 at 05:33 PM (#5954413)
They better have this playing every commercial break.
   7. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 29, 2020 at 05:37 PM (#5954415)
They could probably do 64 hours just of "Pasta diving Jeter" plays
   8. PreservedFish Posted: May 29, 2020 at 06:35 PM (#5954420)
RE64ECT
   9. Howie Menckel Posted: May 29, 2020 at 07:12 PM (#5954423)
I was certain the 64 hours was determined by Jeter's rank in WAR among position players all-time.

I was close - he is T-60th.

who IS 64th, per BBTF?

Alan Trammell.

coincidental, ironic - or both?

discuss.
   10. Gch Posted: May 29, 2020 at 07:35 PM (#5954427)
If I were MLB Network, I'd do a series of 48-hour marathons of more compelling historical players. I'd create a lineup, and promote the series. For example, Reggie Jackson - when you watch a game with him in it, he is one of the ultimate "stop what you're doing to watch him play" performers. The 1971 ASG; 3 HR World Series game; him fighting with Billy Martin in the dugout game; him breaking his leg in a home plate collision playoff game...there's so much material.

Do a 48-hour marathon of "burst onto the scene" players. Mark Fidrych in his breakout year; Fernando Mania in 1981; Ichiro's debut; Joe Charboneau...you get it.

The Greats' First Games: The first game of Griffey, Trout, Reggie, Clemens, Bonds, Yount, Brett, whatever you got footage for.

Baseball has a deeper history than any other American team sport; they should use it while live content is lacking...


They've done most of those idea already. They did a Reggie Jackson night where they showed a few of his best games including the 3 HR game. They had a day where they showed the debuts of something like Strasburg, Kershaw, Harper, and probably something else. They also have regular themed days (Walkoff Wednesday, Team Rivalry Day, Slugfest Saturday, Albert Pujols' greatest games, etc). They've actually done a fairly good job of showing different eras/teams/players so far.

Now their movie schedule is legitimately awful. I think they've shown Bull Durham, The Naked Gun, and A League of Their Own fifty times each since this started.
   11. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: May 29, 2020 at 08:15 PM (#5954435)
Jeter came to the plate 12,602 times. Say that each plate appearance takes 3 minutes (we'll edit out batting glove adjustments as necessary). That gives you 630.1 hours of Jeter plate appearances they could show. Surely they've got an intern with some time on his hands to do the necessary splicing.
   12. caspian88 Posted: May 29, 2020 at 09:15 PM (#5954447)
I'm pretty sure MLB Network did a Fidrych game a few weeks ago.
   13. Mayor Blomberg Posted: May 29, 2020 at 09:28 PM (#5954449)
coincidental, ironic - or both?

coincidental; no need to discuss. But if they give Trammel a 60 hour show, call me.
   14. Slutty Nutkins (CoB). Posted: May 30, 2020 at 06:03 AM (#5954460)
That said, what is the target audience for this idea? Yankees fans?


Beats me ... and I'm a Yankees fan.

I've seen enough Jeter hagiography to last me the rest of my lifetime.
   15. MuttsIdolCochrane Posted: May 30, 2020 at 07:05 AM (#5954463)
Baseball has a deeper history than any other American team sport; they should use it while live content is lacking...

This is a problem for for non-Yankee fans since they've been in the playoffs 55 out of their 106 years of existence as Yankees (over 50%) and have won 27 of the World Series (over 25%). They are baseball's deeper history.
   16. Howie Menckel Posted: May 30, 2020 at 08:54 AM (#5954472)
even if one is not a fan of WAR, there are 59 position players who have more than Jeter.

how many will get 6.4 hours, much less 64?
   17. The Honorable Ardo Posted: May 30, 2020 at 09:07 AM (#5954473)
Jeter vs. Trammell is an interesting case study, even leaving aside any Yankee considerations. Jeter peaked early (his best two seasons were age 24 and 25) followed by a long, gradual decline. Trammell accumulated 2700 PA at a 95 OPS+ before breaking out offensively in 1983; he was 29 in his best season. Early perceptions of a player are hard to shake.
   18. MuttsIdolCochrane Posted: May 30, 2020 at 09:45 AM (#5954476)
Long gradual decline? Not according to the facts. In the 10 tears following his age 24 and 25 seasons he had a .317 BA, a 121 OPS+, and averaged 194 hits with 109 runs scored a year. At 35 he batted .334 with 212 hits, 109 runs, and a 125 OPS+. Quite the gradual decline!
   19. Howie Menckel Posted: May 30, 2020 at 10:40 AM (#5954482)
Trammell committed baseball's most cardinal sin - being the all-around player.

Ozzie Smith and Jeter are worshiped as Gods, because one was a better fielder than Trammell and the other was a better hitter.
   20. SoSH U at work Posted: May 30, 2020 at 11:35 AM (#5954487)
Trammell committed baseball's most cardinal sin - being the all-around player.

Ozzie Smith and Jeter are worshiped as Gods, because one was a better fielder than Trammell and the other was a better hitter.


They're all in the same Hall of Fame. The woe is Trammell line was a lot more compelling before the Vet's Committee ushered him in.
   21. Howie Menckel Posted: May 30, 2020 at 11:38 AM (#5954488)
sure, Trammell had to wait an extra 15 years or so. but it's all good now!
   22. SoSH U at work Posted: May 30, 2020 at 11:41 AM (#5954489)

sure, Trammell had to wait an extra 15 years or so. but it's all good now!


Yeah, pretty much.
   23. Swoboda is freedom Posted: May 30, 2020 at 12:01 PM (#5954490)
They need 64 hours as they need to show the one time he got the ball to his left.
   24. The Mighty Quintana Posted: May 30, 2020 at 12:15 PM (#5954492)
Trammell in the Hall without Lou seems...bittersweet to this baseball fan.
   25. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 30, 2020 at 02:13 PM (#5954504)
Baseball has a deeper history than any other American team sport; they should use it while live content is lacking...
They’ve shown the Ken Burns documentary series several times since spring training was halted. What more, talking heads critiquing & updating the topic? Ratings would be pretty poor, IMHO. The criticisms here, as in many Jeter threads, seem rather petty. Jeter’s arrival, not coincidentally, coincided with the Yankee Renaissance, one of the bigger stories in recent MLB history. No one has won more World Series in the Wild Card era than Jeter (5), and no team has won back-to back Championships, except for Jeter’s Yankees, which won 3 in a row, and 4 in 5 years. There are a lot of important games, in color & mostly HD, that showcase Jeter’s career: HRing on Opening Day his rookie year, the Jeffrey Maier game, diving into the stands (while Nomar sat), the Flip, Mr. November, getting his 3,000 hit with a HR on a day he went 5-for-5, closing old Yankee Stadium, and driving in the winning run in his last game at the new Stadium, to name but a few. Shouldn’t be surprising that the MLB Network packages some of these games with a bit of commentary in the absence of live games.
   26. Howie Menckel Posted: May 30, 2020 at 03:26 PM (#5954517)
... for 64 hours. #ftfy
   27. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 30, 2020 at 05:10 PM (#5954526)
... for 64 hours.
Well, not 64 hours of distinct material - much of it seems to be repeated overnight.
   28. Howie Menckel Posted: May 30, 2020 at 06:31 PM (#5954536)
if you say so.

it's still a "Lost Weekend" for most of MLB Network's customers.
   29. flournoy Posted: May 30, 2020 at 07:00 PM (#5954540)
not coincidentally, coincided


Interesting turn of phrase.



Discussing word choice sounds far more interesting than watching a few minutes (or a few days) of Jeter.
   30. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: May 30, 2020 at 07:30 PM (#5954545)
I don't have cable, so I don't know if they've been doing this, but it would be fun to dig out footage of really old games. I've got a box set of the World Series videos they produce each season; it goes back to, IIRC, 1943. Maybe they've got footage of an entire WS from the 40s somewhere. Showing that would be pretty sweet. And a lot more interesting than an interminable quantity of bland Mr. Corporate-PR-Man highlights.
   31. Srul Itza Posted: May 30, 2020 at 07:47 PM (#5954547)
When I saw this on the sidebar, I thought "Onion article, or the equivalent."

Sadly, no.
   32. Rally Posted: May 30, 2020 at 09:56 PM (#5954558)
I really like the idea of showing 1981 Fernandomania games. Not a documentary, that’s been done. Just broadcasts of the games where he started 8-0. Part of that is personal, Fernando was the starting pitcher in the first MLB game I ever attended, in 1981.

But I wonder - is it even possible? Do we have full game footage for all these games?
   33. Howie Menckel Posted: May 31, 2020 at 12:03 AM (#5954567)
they showed a CG shutout of the Yankees by Mark "The Bird" Fidyrich from a few years earlier.

that was a national TV game - but so many of Fernando's were, too, for the exact same reason.

#phenom

   34. Rough Carrigan Posted: May 31, 2020 at 10:35 AM (#5954582)
How many groundballs into center field to a shortstop's left can you watch?
   35. Zach Posted: May 31, 2020 at 12:42 PM (#5954590)
I really like the idea of showing 1981 Fernandomania games.

Or Mark Fidrych. Or, heck, Morganna the Kissing Bandit (there's 64 hours for you right there!)

Baseball has so many sideplots and subplots that don't directly affect the championship. Maybe focus on some of those for a while.
   36. Rally Posted: May 31, 2020 at 02:09 PM (#5954595)
Tried a youtube search last night and looked for 1981 Fernando games. There is plenty of Fernando material, highlights or stuff, but I didn't see many full games, outside of the playoffs. Did find Game 5 of the NLDS between Dodgers and Astros. Obviously Dodgers would win, since they were the 81 WS champs, but other than that I didn't know what would happen. Jerry Reuss pitched for the Dodgers against Nolan Ryan. Great pitcher's duel through 6, then the Dodgers got a few runs off Nolan and won 3-0, Reuss with a CG shutout.
   37. Hysterical & Useless Posted: May 31, 2020 at 02:51 PM (#5954597)
C'mon, shoulda been a spoiler alert there!
   38. puck Posted: May 31, 2020 at 03:00 PM (#5954598)
Fernandomania games would be great. It still seems amazing he could get those K rates with a 87 mph fastball. No one throws a screwball anymore. Was it like a circle change that faded away from a righty batter in even more pronounced fashion? It really bewildered hitters that first time through the league.

He hit pretty well in that early streak, too. 9 for 25 in that 8-0 start.
   39. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: June 01, 2020 at 05:31 AM (#5954660)
This thread caused me to open the MLB.TV app for the first time since Spring Training. On the Yankees tab, pretty much every video is about Derek Jeter, but I opened one that was entitled 'Circle the Bases with Bernie Williams', where a kid asks him questions. Three of the four questions were about Jeter: Which of them was the better actor on 'Seinfeld', what was the best prank Bernie saw Jeter pull, and how would Bernie have called the Jeter walk-off in game 1 of the 1996 ALDS. And one wasn't.

If this was a Hall of Fame tie-in thing, wouldn't they have asked all four about Jeter? Instead, it really looked like Bernie was the dullest ballplayer on earth - I realise he was fairly reserved, but the guy was pretty darn good for quite a while AND has a second career as a musician. Still, right now Bernie looks like he'd make an excellent Santa Claus, so he's got that going for him.
   40. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 01, 2020 at 11:32 AM (#5954717)
I opened one that was entitled 'Circle the Bases with Bernie Williams', where a kid asks him questions. Three of the four questions were about Jeter.

In MLB Network's first interview with Larry Walker after the Hall of Fame voting results were announced, one of the questions Verducci asked him was how big of an honor it was for him to be inducted into the Hall of Fame alongside Derek Jeter.
   41. Rally Posted: June 01, 2020 at 01:45 PM (#5954752)
If these reporters could time travel:

Lou Gehrig: Do you consider yourself the luckiest man on the face of the earth because you got to wear a uniform with Derek Jeter’s number squared?
   42. Itchy Row Posted: June 01, 2020 at 01:55 PM (#5954758)
I turned the Jeterthon on a couple of times but didn't see anything that interested me enough to keep watching for long. The Dodger channel has been showing their old games (mostly 1977-78, 1981, 1988, and the recent years) and salutes to Vin Scully. I spent more time watching that this weekend when I wasn't watching the news.
   43. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 01, 2020 at 02:18 PM (#5954764)
How does this differ from their ordinary coverage of Jeter? Is it just the branding?
   44. depletion Posted: June 01, 2020 at 04:43 PM (#5954788)
Hours 1 through 32 are about adjusting batting gloves. 32 through 63 are regarding aspects of squinting as you look to the dugout for the signs.
   45. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 01, 2020 at 04:50 PM (#5954790)
what was the best prank Bernie saw Jeter pull
That time when he planted his glove in Ruben Rivera’s locker. Totally hilarious.
   46. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: June 01, 2020 at 11:21 PM (#5954854)
Tried a youtube search last night and looked for 1981 Fernando games. There is plenty of Fernando material, highlights or stuff, but I didn't see many full games, outside of the playoffs. Did find Game 5 of the NLDS between Dodgers and Astros. Obviously Dodgers would win, since they were the 81 WS champs, but other than that I didn't know what would happen. Jerry Reuss pitched for the Dodgers against Nolan Ryan. Great pitcher's duel through 6, then the Dodgers got a few runs off Nolan and won 3-0, Reuss with a CG shutout.

Only the year before, Houston led NLCS Game 5 at home against Philadelphia... 5-2 entering the top of the 8th, Ryan Express on the hill, what could possibly go wrong?
   47. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: June 02, 2020 at 12:39 AM (#5954866)
'Circle the Bases with Bernie Williams', where a kid asks him questions. Three of the four questions were about Jeter: Which of them was the better actor on 'Seinfeld'
I'd give the slight nod to Bernie. They both nailed their first lines, Jeter got one extra one and didn't do quite as well with it. Close though.

Paul O'Neill crushed both of them though.
   48. AndrewJ Posted: June 02, 2020 at 08:07 AM (#5954880)
I'm looking forward to the montage of all of Jeter's competent defensive plays over 20 years -- it premieres on the MLB Network next Sunday at 8.

With repeat broadcasts at 8:01, 8:02, 8:03, 8:04, 8:05...
   49. Ron J Posted: June 02, 2020 at 09:39 AM (#5954887)
#48 I know you know this, but plenty of the most entertaining defensive plays are not objectively excellent plays. They basically center around a player right at his own limits. So you'll see (say) Kevin Mitchell making a highlight play that would have been routine for prime Rickey!.

Same applies to Jeter and one reason that he had a decent defensive rep for much of his career. He made a lot of plays that looked good. He did after all win five Gold Gloves.
   50. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 02, 2020 at 03:52 PM (#5954963)
Just tuned in to MLB Network after the Jeterthon, and they're actually showing the Eric Gregg game.
   51. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 02, 2020 at 04:21 PM (#5954973)
Joe Morgan, in the 8th inning of this game, after Gregg rang up Jeff Blauser for Hernandez's 12 strikeout: "Let me tell you something, I think Eric Gregg has done a great job of calling pitches and being consistent."
   52. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 02, 2020 at 04:31 PM (#5954976)
Joe Morgan, in the 8th inning of this game, after Gregg rang up Jeff Blauser for Hernandez's 12 strikeout: "Let me tell you something, I think Eric Gregg has done a great job of calling pitches and being consistent."
Even back in Little League the whole "it doesn't matter where the ump calls the zone as long as he's consistent" bit struck me as absurd.
   53. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: June 02, 2020 at 04:38 PM (#5954980)
I'd give the slight nod to Bernie. They both nailed their first lines, Jeter got one extra one and didn't do quite as well with it. Close though.


You'll be happy to know that Bernie agrees with you.
   54. Rally Posted: June 02, 2020 at 05:29 PM (#5954990)
Ron, I get what you’re saying, but the example chosen conjures a specific memory. Never saw Rickey catch a ball in left field with his bare hand. But of course the out is the same regardless of style points.
   55. Ron J Posted: June 02, 2020 at 06:57 PM (#5955007)
#54 Example chosen because young Rickey! wouldn't have needed to make the play bare handed. But I think you got that already.
   56. Howie Menckel Posted: June 02, 2020 at 08:00 PM (#5955017)
a decade ago, I should have trademarked* my description of Jeter as "gracefully slow."

I wish I could remember where I once saw a comparison of side-by-side reactions to similar ground balls to SS - and who the other player was. might have been Vizquel.

it was fascinating. as each ball is hit, Vizquel reacts and adjust in what seems like nano-seconds while Jeter - does not.

this enables Vizquel to field the ball that gets pastadivingJeter. but Jeter LOOKS like he did all the right things just as quickly. makes it hard for me to knock a fanboy who sees Jeter move so smoothly - albeit fatally late - across the diamond.

I believe it was Mick Kelleher who coached Jeter to change his default position at SS when Jeter got into his 30s, thereby improving his angles and actually getting some results.

* - a pinata for actual attorneys
   57. Rally Posted: June 02, 2020 at 08:13 PM (#5955022)
Jeter reacted to the ball slower than just about anyone else on the field. I’ve seen this documented. What I can’t reconcile is how that is possible - slow reactions - and yet he was a great hitter. I though you needed good reactions to hit.

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