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Monday, January 28, 2008
MLB: Phillies reportedly sign free agent Pedro Feliz
The Phillies have upgraded at third base after all, reportedly signing free-agent third baseman Pedro Feliz to a two-year deal.
An agreement was first reported by ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark, and it is believed to be pending a physical. For their part, the Phillies said the deal isn’t quite complete.
“We haven’t finalized anything, but have been talking to his representatives,” Phillies assistant general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said late Monday afternoon.
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1. You can keep your massive haul Posted: January 28, 2008 at 10:02 PM (#2677914)It would have been an "upgrade" from Abraham Nuñez even if they just stuck with Dobbs and Helms, though.
Feliz is a bad enough hitter that it puts the Yanks in the running. I think the Jeter > Rollins and A-rod > Howard closes the Utley > Cano gap enough that depending on who the Yanks run out at first, they could catch them.
OK, it makes the Phils have the most home-run-hitting infield then.
Feliz's 25 homers this year will make him seem like a huge improvement over Nuñez, that's for sure. And he's the best fielding third baseman in baseball. Ryan Howard should have fewer errors this year.
They certainly have a lot of non-young hitters on the 40-man roster this year. Restovich has already signed with the Phillies, been displaced, and gone to Japan, and now they have three third basemen. And is Bruntlett really the backup for every infield position?
Some wacky platoon splits for Feliz the last two years. If he had decided "regular" splits, a quasi platoon with Dobbs might be useful.
I don't know what to make of this. I was dreading a season of "defense" from Helms and Dobbs at 3B so I guess this signing helps.
Are there any middle relievers out there for Helms that Ed Wade hasn't scarfed up?
How about just best infield -period- then? Everyone but Howard can pick it pretty well.
I'm with you, Crispix, I always thought adding Feliz was an interesting situation, even last year ... do they have enough OBP that they can punt it, in exchange for a great glove and some RH sock?
And Rollins can now stick to scooping up balls down the middle more than ranging way into the 3B hole.
Yes, you could look at it that way. I guess we have to wait until we see what kind of contract he's getting.
Just because he's underrated in general doesn't mean he'll be a bargain I guess.
But the above comment about Feliz in Philly rings true to me. Watching the lad play he might go Tony Batista for a year or so with an OBP of .300 but 35 odd homers. Add in the defense and it's a whackadoodle value combination.
Rollins was better in 2007 but that hasn't been before that most of the time, if ever. Jeter might be beginning his decline and Rollins entering his prime. Of course, maybe Jeter will rebound and Rollins will return to his pre-2007 levels.
Pure offensive contribution? Rollins just posted a 118 OPS+ - highest of his career easily. Jeter posted a more OBP-heavy 121 in what was a typical season for him. They're both good baserunners - maybe you can make a case for Rollins as a better overall player if you factor in D, but Jeter is the better hitter.
EDIT: Man, Rollins did have some season last year though, huh?
If you think everyone on this site hates Rollins, 'tis but a tiny spark compared to the roaring fires of their hatred for Jeter.
Jeter OPS+ last 3: 121, 132, 125 (career 122)
Rollins: 118, 101, 97 (career 98)
Rollins is a better fielder (by default- he's only average or a little better- Jeter just reeks), but not enough to close a 24 point OPS+ gap
Rollins is 5 years younger, Jeter is on the wrong side of 30
Rollins was better in 2007 - and if he can keep within 5-10 OPS+ points of Jeter in 2008, I'd say Rollins had passed Jeter and in 2007/08 was the better overall SS.
Good point.
Kendrick is a groundball pitcher.
Well, I guess it only begs the question if you care about the Giants at all.
Steve. Steve?! Where are you?!
3B : ARod - 993 Chipper - 979 Feliz - 664 ( in SF )
Win for the Yanks.
SS : Jeter - 831, Rollins - 821, Yunel - 765
Big win for the Yanks again. Jeter's OPS is OBP heavy. and in much tougher park to hit
1B : Howard - 1028, Tex - 931, Shelley - 780
This is where the Phils really own the rest. Even with park adjustments, Howard should project as a better hitter than Tex
2B: Utley - 896, KJ- 840, Cano - 837
Closest by far. Cano probably lags behind the other 2 a bit after park adjustment. Utley a bit ahead of the others.
On that, You have to give the Yankees the best IF, with Phils close behind, and while ATL is close but most definitely behind those 2. ATL has no black hole in the infield which really pulls them close to the top.
If catchers are added, ATL and NYY pull way ahead.
His silence speaks volumes. I can only presume we'll hear about the Cain-for-Crede trade any time now, followed by a breaking story about a hostage situation at Sabean's office.
Did I miss another recent inside joke? This is what Wiki Gonzalez is for.
I wouldn't want to count on him. Seems to me like hes toast. Low average, high walk, unathletic corner power hitter with a burnt out shoulder... seems like the type to wash out in the early 30s.
Plus his career didn't really start 'til 26, seems like late-bloomers are often also the early burnouts.
I suppose he couldn't hurt a team for a couple mil on a one year deal but if i want to contend I wouldn't want him as my plan A at third.
Pedro Feliz is no great shakes but there is something to be said for "knowing what you get". They have enough offense everywhere else to survive a weaker 80-85 OPS+ at third since it comes with great defense. He isn't a total offensive zero, he'll give you 20something homers from th bottom of the lineup. Hell, moving from SF to Citizen's Bank Bandbox hes got a chance at 30 homers... not that moving parks actually makes you a better hitter.
Agreed, but I was talking about the Giants. They have absolutely nothing to lose by signing him, and is certainly a better option than trading for Crede.
His silence speaks volumes. I can only presume we'll hear about the Cain-for-Crede trade any time now, followed by a breaking story about a hostage situation at Sabean's office.
Don't blow my plan, now.
But it may just be the crack...
That was for the remainder of last season.
Sigh.
Name B Age Last Season MarcelMorgan Ensberg R 32 F.A. SD 4,350,000 107
Russell Branyan L 32 F.A. StL 1,000,000 102
Corey Koskie L 35 F.A. Mil 6,250,000 102
Jeff Cirillo R 38 F.A. Az 1,500,000 91
Tony Graffanino R 36 F.A. Mil 3,250,000 87
Tony Batista R 34 F.A. Was MiLB 80
Dallas McPherson L 27 F.A. LAA 382,500 65
Mark Bellhorn B 33 F.A. Cin MiLB 47
Alex S. Gonzalez R 35 F.A. Was MiLB 30
Lou Merloni R 37 F.A. Oak MiLB 24
Andy Gonzalez R 26 F.A. ChS MiLB 20
I think. Some of these may not have exactly made headlines if they signed a minor league deal or retired. Graffanino sort of fits the nexus of old, pricy, and bad.
One would have to think he'd at least get an invite.
Maybe I shouldn't have been so shocked to see him in the majors in both 2006 and 2007.
And maybe I should finally figure out that he is not the same person as Tony Fernandez, who has been retired for six years now.
Also, Jeff Cirillo would be a great choice for the Giants to keep alive their streak of oldest lineups in baseball history, while also gunning for the record for fewest runs scored in a 162-game season.
Really?
Hitting 20+ HR's for three straight seasons makes a player good despite his three OBP's in those seasons of .295, .281, and .290?
Also, it's not like his SLG is that great. In the previous three seasons they were .422, .428, and .418
I understand he's very good defensively, but does it really close the gap of his crapiness on offense?
Oh, he'll be 33 next season.
Dobb/Helms would be better.
Seriously.
Most curious.
Was Jeter injured last year?
Yes. He played most of last year with a messed up knee.
FREE SMELLHORN!
When I saw this, I assumed that you had to be wrong. Then I checked Baseball-Reference, and it backed you up, so I can only assume that it's wrong too. There's no way that my mind can properly cope with the idea that Tony Batista is only 34. It just seems like some violation of a basic natural law.
Of course, by your reaction, it seems that you can't quite cope with this either.
These Tonies need more distinctive names. Tarasco and Graffanino never get confused with anyone else.
EDIT: Upon further research, the Expos should definitely resign Tony Batista. Now that they have Elijah Dukes, Batista's message of love and Christianity has never been so urgently needed.
Batista, on the other hand, just feels like he should be older than he is - it just seems like it was too long ago that he was that up-and-coming slugging shortstop that we poached from Arizona for almost nothing. Or perhaps, like Ron Karkovice or Otis Nixon, Batista's just visually ageing at a greatly accelerated rate. Or, even more likely, my mind is just crap.
Who says he hasn't gotten some invites or minimum wage deals?
I'm sure he's just trying to wait and see if anyone is left needing a 3b after some other guys have signed and is willing to pay him 1 mil rather than 500k or something.
Who said that?
No one.
"Dobb/Helms would be better."
On offense? Slightly probably, but Feliz has a pretty big defensive edge on those guys - both of whom are pretty lead-footed.
I'd say his defense DOES make up the gap, and probably at little more, between him and Helms/Dobbs. He is at least worth inviting into the mix if this deal isn't too expensive.
I expect Brandon Inge is probably available on the cheap... But I would MUCH rather have Ensberg or McPherson."
Really!?
Theres no way I could do that.
Ensberg and McPherson have a little more offensive upside but they are also far more likely to washout and are far inferior defensively.
I did this exactly how?
As for the deal, I heard 2 yrs 8.5 Mil. That doesn't seem too bad to me, any other thoughts?
By Batting Runs or Batting Runs above average, Feliz has been around 15-20 runs below average offensively the last 3 years. By most defensive metrics, UZR, plus minus, RZR, ZR, about 20-30 runs above average defensively the last 3 years.
1) There is no metric that can quantify the amount of hair all you Phillies phans are going to tear out watching Pedro swing at breaking balls in the dirt (not to mention watching him try to pull outside pitches and rolling them over on the ground instead).
2) As of right now, the Giants 3B situation is Kevin Frandsen starting (should be replacing Durham at 2B instead, but whatever) with Aurilia as a backup. I'd love to see the Giants get McPherson -- that's exactly the kind of deal Sabean should be making right now (but probably won't).
3) As a Giants fan, the best part is that they essentially get back the sandwich pick that they gave up for Rowand (Phillies got the #34 pick for Rowand [plus a 2nd-rounder], Giants get back the #37 pick for Feliz).
I would like to have Dallas MacPherson on my team, but I wouldn't want to have to rely on him.
is that a pitch for Batista...
Tony'd like to take a swing at that
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