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Posted: March 23, 2023 at 11:49 AM | 17 comment(s)
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1. Walt Davis Posted: March 23, 2023 at 02:53 PM (#6121179)Like all small market teams, this is critical for them as they can't afford to keep their FAs -- Turner, Seager, Scherzer, Jansen. They even had to non-tender Bellinger because he ws getting "expensive." It's great to see so much success in Tampa West.
The Cubs are a respectable but boring 12th. A depth system for now.
Nah, that's probably irrelevant, Jung should be good. Their ML outfield is not good aside from Adolis Garcia, so they should improve there just by bringing a couple of guys up; and I would be amazed if none of their pitching prospects eventually became stars. It's not a bad situation; they just continue lack a superstar position-player prospect like so many who have surfaced lately, a Tatis/Soto/Vlad Jr./Wander-Franco type.
As #2 points out... in a way. I would love to see someone rank not just current prospects but recent past success, whether the player is still with the organization to gauge the quality of the organization as a whole at building and developing players.
As a Cardinal fan, the sheer number of players this organization has developed and pumped out into starting players, seems to be drastically larger than pretty much every organization out there... or at least top three. (heck 2021 al roy--and 4th place , 2022 nl cy young--and 5th place, were all Cardinal prospects traded away)
edit: (the 4th place finisher in 2021 al roy)
Top 100 prospects: Francisco Álvarez, C (No. 3); Brett Baty, 3B (No. 21); Kevin Parada, C (No. 36); Alex Ramirez, OF (No. 96).
#bat #bat(y) #bat #bat
Maybe they can pull off a "Chisholm for Gallen" type of swap as the Marlins and Diamondbacks pulled off beautifully a few years ago. the Marlins are still pitching-heavy and the DBacks hitting-heavy anyway, so quite the deal that helped both teams!
Always seemed to me that pimpees are obsessed over because the Organizations and the prospect evaluators are concerned with being "right"
Does anyone rank development? With all the prospect rankings around, it would be ridiculous if some website isn't evaluating how well teams turn raw materials into big leaguers.
I don't know if the prospect lists do a better job or ML organizations are doing a better job but guys at the top of the lists seem to be paying off at higher rates and it seems like more of the guys around #50 are turning into good/solid players too. (Obviously nobody can predict future injuries.)
I agree with the general sentiment but a guy like Altuve debuted in 2011, was signed in 2007 and is now under at least his 4th Atros' GM -- he doesn't really tell us anything about the current state of the Astros' draft/develop operation. But for sure, that the production line has continued with Tucker, Alvarez, Pena and all the pitchers means they are still doing something very right.
I suppose what I might find "ideal" is a set of rankings for "impact in 2023," "impact in 2024-25," "big impact players," "depth" and maybe something that captures turning straw into gold.** If they want to then combine those 4 into an overall ranking, that's fine with me. But sure just one that separates "drafted well" and "developed well" would be a step in the right direction.
One area where current rankings have an issue is in "crediting" an organization with talent acquired -- the Cubs will deserve some credit if Hayden Wesneski turns into a very good pitcher but not a lot. (Surprised Wesneski is not in the top 100, he looked outstanding last year and so far this spring.) The Cubs as an overall organization deserve credit for acquiring him but it doesn't tell us anything about their draft/develop.
** A top prospect who was also a #1 draft pick or a major international signing is expected and doesn't necessarily reflect anything except draft slot or bonus money available. But the Cards turning a 5th round guy from just 2021 into #79 entering 2023 sounds nearly miraculous to me. (Unless he was some sort of signability pick.)
MLB 26-and-under power rankings: Which clubs have the best young players?
if you know one, let me know. i remember looking around like 15 years ago when i was writing my blog and there was nothing i could find. i did my own write up on the astros for the previous 10 years using results from the drafts, because we didn't have list of furrinerz signed that was available. the astros record with minor leaguers was really lousy. didn't have access to prospect lists back then
Better than where they were! And if they were truly Tampa North, they'd have a bunch of guys that don't look good on paper but develop into good Major Leagues. So step 1 is complete!
Overall, I'm pretty happy with a top heavy system that has recent graduate Bello and import Yoshida on the Major League club.
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