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Tuesday, June 15, 2021

MLB players caught with any foreign substance to face 10-day suspension, sources say

Major League Baseball is expected to announce Tuesday that it will suspend players caught with any foreign substance for 10 days with pay to help curtail the widespread use of grip enhancers by pitchers around the league, sources familiar with the plans told ESPN.

The league is expected to distribute a memo to teams—which have been briefed on the broad strokes of the policy change—that outlines its plans to penalize all players caught by umpires with any foreign substance on their person, from the widely used sunscreen-and-rosin combination to Spider Tack, an industrial glue that has become a favorite among pitchers who want to generate more spin on the ball.

The liberal interpretation of Rules 3.01 and 6.02(c), which ban the use of foreign substances, would discipline all substances the same. While there is a “broad consensus among players that Spider Tack is over the line,” a high-ranking person on the players’ side told ESPN on Monday, the full ban of all grip agents could rankle players. A longtime umpire told ESPN the hard line is vital as he and his brethren attempt an on-the-fly enforcement of a rule that for years has been ignored.

However significant players’ reliance on sticky stuff has become, and regardless of how responsible teams and the league were for enabling another cheating scandal to burrow its way into baseball, the efforts to rid the game of grip enhancers have arrived and will begin in earnest June 21, sources said.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 15, 2021 at 09:01 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Duke Posted: June 15, 2021 at 02:17 PM (#6024295)
To me, the biggest impact will be in this years draft. You have to figure it’s permeated colleges. I’m not sure I’d want to bet on a lot of these guys and have them turn into pumpkins when the get to MILB and have to stop. I’m guessing less pitching chosen in round 1.
   2. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: June 15, 2021 at 02:30 PM (#6024301)
Huh, that's an interesting thought. I wonder if teams are looking at that. They must be right?
   3. Dolf Lucky Posted: June 15, 2021 at 02:56 PM (#6024305)
Not that I disagree with the direction of the league on this, but I thought pitchers were previously told that they all had a hall pass for 2021?
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 15, 2021 at 03:03 PM (#6024308)
I thought there already was a 10-game suspension for this? Isn't that what Pineda got a few years back?
   5. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: June 15, 2021 at 03:09 PM (#6024311)
I just hope it hasn't filtered down to high school ball. Gotta plug my mom's next-door neighbor Jack Walker again. He just got named Mr. Baseball 2021 for Louisiana as the most outstanding high school player in the state after a season where he went 13-0, 0.48 for the MaxPreps #1 high school team in the country and state 5-A champions with a 39-2 record. He allowed 24 hits (all singles) in 84 innings with 121/22 K/W, threw two no-hitters including the first round of the playoffs, and pitched 10 scoreless hitless innings in the state semi-final game. He went 25-1 in his high school career, starting and winning the 2019 5-A state championship game as a sophomore, and that one loss was a complete game 1-hitter with 14 K's in his sophomore year. Missed his junior year recovering from TJS. He's got a fastball that sits low 90's, a low/mid-80's slider, and a curve in the low/mid-70's.

He's a Mississippi State commit, and I can't believe he's not on MLB's Top 200 draft prospects list. Prospects Live doesn't even have him on their top 500 draft prospects list. What am I missing?
   6. The Duke Posted: June 15, 2021 at 03:16 PM (#6024312)
TJS at 17. That’s what you are missing.
   7. Darren Posted: June 15, 2021 at 04:12 PM (#6024324)
As usual, MLB just rushes into a controversy and makes a rash decision.

Enforcing these rules is good for the game, but it's the sort of thing you do in the offseason. Throwing it out there mid-year because you're feeling pressure is a bad plan that gives teams and players no time to adjust.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 15, 2021 at 04:47 PM (#6024327)
In fairness, it was a rule on the books for decades!
   9. Ron J Posted: June 15, 2021 at 05:34 PM (#6024329)
#4 Yeah. 8-10 games is just normal.

I think there's an intended subtext of "and we're instructing the umps to look more closely"
   10. villageidiom Posted: June 15, 2021 at 06:00 PM (#6024331)
I thought there already was a 10-game suspension for this? Isn't that what Pineda got a few years back?
Pineda was flagrant about it, with pine tar noticeably covering part of his arm. Punishments have only been given for flagrancy, though the rule is not written that way. They're basically saying they will be enforcing the existing rule going forward.
   11. Howie Menckel Posted: June 15, 2021 at 06:52 PM (#6024336)
even Pete Alonso is saying, "Geesh, this Glasnow fella isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, is he?"
#crossthread

Jesse Rogers
@JesseRogersESPN
·
1h
Glasnow: “Do it in the offseason. Give us a chance to adjust to it. But I just threw 80 innings, then you tell me I can't use anything in the middle of the year. I have to change everything I’ve been doing the entire season. I'm telling you I truly believe that’s why I got hurt.”
   12. Space Force fan Posted: June 15, 2021 at 08:26 PM (#6024351)
Enforcing these rules is good for the game, but it's the sort of thing you do in the offseason. Throwing it out there mid-year because you're feeling pressure is a bad plan that gives teams and players no time to adjust.


If you just accept that your spin rate is going to decrease without goo, what adjustments are necessary? Remembering to go to the rosin bag to get the tackiness you need not to hit batters?
   13. pikepredator Posted: June 16, 2021 at 12:39 PM (#6024538)
what adjustments are necessary?


finding a new & innovative way to doctor the ball, I'd wager . . .

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