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MLB reportedly discussing a 100-game season that would include a neutral-site World Series at Dodger

The COVID-19 pandemic has the sports world on hold. We have no idea when and *if* there will be professional sports in 2020. The MLB season was supposed to begin last Thursday, and there’s no way they will be able to play close to 162 games with the way things are going.

At this rate, a best-case scenario would seem to involve the MLB season starting in late June or early July, and having roughly 100 games (keep in mind a ramp-up period/second spring training that will be needed too; it’s not like things clear up with COVID-19 and the regular-season MLB games can immediately start).

Well, 670 The Score’s Matt Spiegel reports that, according to “a well informed source that does business with multiple MLB execs,” MLB is discussing the idea of a 100-game season that would feature a neutral-site World Series at Dodger Stadium. The 2020 All-Star Game was to be held at Dodger Stadium, but it’s extremely unlikely that there’s time for an exhibition game in the middle of a shortened season that will already have enough scheduling concerns. So, while they will (almost surely) not host an All-Star Game, Los Angeles would at least host the World Series “as compensation.”

Spiegel adds that the 100-game season would begin July 1, and conclude October 15. The regular season finishing more than two weeks later than originally planned (currently scheduled to end Sept. 27) is why a warm-weather location would be good for the World Series; the Fall Classic would go well into November.

Compensation for the viewers: I’ll take the World Series being at Dodger Stadium if Jon Miller gets to call the World Series. Deal?

 

QLE Posted: April 02, 2020 at 01:29 AM | 33 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dodger stadium, neutral site games, shortened season

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   1. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 02, 2020 at 02:14 AM (#5935725)
according to “a well informed source that does business with multiple MLB execs,”
So, a barber?
   2. Cooper Nielson Posted: April 02, 2020 at 02:53 AM (#5935728)
But what if the Dodgers made the World Series (which they’re the clear favorites to do out of the NL)? That would be an unfair advantage to have a seven-game series all at home. Spiegel says that “road games” for the Dodgers would take place in Anaheim (Angel Stadium) and San Diego (Petco Park).

If it's the Dodgers vs. the Angels in the World Series, the Dodgers should play their home games in Anaheim and the Angels should play their home games in Los Angeles.
   3. Rally Posted: April 02, 2020 at 10:20 AM (#5935782)
You've already got Clay Bellinger, Kershaw, Beuhler, a ton of good young talent, and add Mookie Betts. I think there's a good chance there's nothing neutral about this site.

From comment #2, I like that there's a sort of plan to have world series games played in Anaheim for the first time in 18 years. I further propose that no matter what team is representing the AL for those games, an exception is made to allow Mike Trout to play CF for them. He'd technically be in the lineup for the Yankees/Twins/Rays/Astros/A's or whoever makes it, but still must wear his Angel uniform.
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: April 02, 2020 at 10:24 AM (#5935783)
You've already got Clay Bellinger, Kershaw, Beuhler, a ton of good young talent, and add Mookie Betts.


They might very well be able to carry Clay.
   5. Sunday silence Posted: April 02, 2020 at 12:04 PM (#5935829)
I would have picked Switzerland or Sweden for the neutral site but OK...
   6. Buck Coats Posted: April 02, 2020 at 12:06 PM (#5935831)
Why Dodgers Stadium over Anaheim, San Diego, San Fran, Oakland, Arizona, Houston, Dallas, Tampa Bay, Miami, Toronto, or Milwaukee? All of those stadiums are domed or warm-weather sites. If one of those teams makes the World Series I would think they would be pretty annoyed to have to play somewhere else.

I think what makes more sense would be to make all the games day games if they're in a cold-weather site.
   7. EddieA Posted: April 02, 2020 at 12:34 PM (#5935846)
Would rate records count in a 100-game season? Have any post-World War II players been at .400 at 310 plate appearances?
   8. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 02, 2020 at 12:35 PM (#5935848)
In 1981, the season was halted by the strike in early June, then picked up again in August. They decided to reopen the season with the All-Star game, which was played right before the regular schedule resumed. That was one of the best decisions made in that depressing summer. Whenever the season opens this year, the All-Star game would be a good way to kick it off.

The only downside is that idiots who want to vote in some nonentity who is hitting .330 over the first two months of the season wouldn't know who to vote for.
   9. Kiko Sakata Posted: April 02, 2020 at 12:44 PM (#5935852)
Why Dodgers Stadium over Anaheim, San Diego, San Fran, Oakland, Arizona, Houston, Dallas, Tampa Bay, Miami, Toronto, or Milwaukee?


The All-Star game was supposed to be in Dodgers Stadium this year, so this is compensation for that being cancelled.
   10. pikepredator Posted: April 02, 2020 at 01:58 PM (#5935901)
If this happens, is there any way we could get Vin Scully back in the booth for one last hurrah? As of last fall he was still sharper than most announcers half his age.
   11. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 02, 2020 at 02:04 PM (#5935904)
The only downside is that idiots who want to vote in some nonentity who is hitting .330 over the first two months of the season wouldn't know who to vote for.


Spring training stats. Your AL starting first baseman, Chris Davis.
   12. Swedish Chef Posted: April 02, 2020 at 02:18 PM (#5935914)
Miami is probably the best site for weather and neutrality, if the Marlins by some massive fluke should make it to the World Series it's not like they have much of a fanbase anyway.
   13. SandyRiver Posted: April 02, 2020 at 03:31 PM (#5935943)
The All-Star game was supposed to be in Dodgers Stadium this year, so this is compensation for that being cancelled.

So channel 1981 and start the season with a Dodgers Stadium ASG. Selections to be done as usual, so fans/managers would have to base their choices on 2019. (And #11 stole my catchy closing comment.)
   14. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: April 02, 2020 at 03:39 PM (#5935946)
Whenever the season opens this year, the All-Star game would be a good way to kick it off.


I came to this thread to say this exact same thing. It would be a terrific way to get things started. The all-star game is a silly exhibition, but it's also a celebration, and after this nonsense, starting the baseball season with a celebration is a great idea.
   15. bunyon Posted: April 02, 2020 at 03:45 PM (#5935951)
Not to be depressing in a pretty fun thread, but I expect to be self-isolated again by mid-October.
   16. Itchy Row Posted: April 02, 2020 at 03:46 PM (#5935955)
Would rate records count in a 100-game season? Have any post-World War II players been at .400 at 310 plate appearances?
The most PA in a .400 BA season since Ted Williams in 1941 was 155 by Bob Hazle in 1957. Second most was Ted Williams with 110 in 1953.

Tony Gwynn hit .4007 over his last 310 PA in 1994. George Brett hit .417 over his last 310 in 1980.

bb-ref says there have been two .400 1st halfs of a season with 250+ PA since 1941- Stan Musial hit .403 in 1948 and Rod Carew hit .402 in 1983. Four players have done it in a second half- Ichiro (.429 in 2004), Brett (.421 in 1980), Joey Votto (.408 in 2016), and Barry Bonds (.404 in 2002).

   17. Itchy Row Posted: April 02, 2020 at 04:02 PM (#5935968)
Brett was hitting .400 through 461 PA on September 19, 1980.
   18. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: April 02, 2020 at 04:08 PM (#5935972)
Would rate records count in a 100-game season?


I would count them if they had 502 PA.
   19. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 02, 2020 at 04:23 PM (#5935979)
The All-Star game was supposed to be in Dodgers Stadium this year, so this is compensation for that being cancelled.
That’s apples & oranges, and certainly no reason to give the NL favorite Dodgers home field advantage through the playoffs or for the World Series, while claiming it was a neutral site. There are warm-weather non-contenders (Miami, Texas, San Diego), plus all the domed stadiums. If one of those teams surprised everyone and make the playoffs, I’m agnostic on whether it’d be worth it or feasible to make a late change, but it makes no sense to start out giving a likely playoff contender a significant advantage under the guise of playing at neutral sites.
   20. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 02, 2020 at 04:43 PM (#5935990)
There are enough warm-weather stadiums to spread the wealth around a little. Let Anaheim or Texas be the home for the AL team, and San Diego or Miami be the home for the NL team.
   21. Walt Davis Posted: April 02, 2020 at 05:26 PM (#5935999)
Tony Gwynn hit .4007 over his last 310 PA in 1994. George Brett hit .417 over his last 310 in 1980.

I don't remember if it was Gwynn or Boggs (or somebody else?) but I recall somebody looked at 162-game stretches split across seasons (AS break to AS break?) and found one where the guy hit 400.

if the Marlins by some massive fluke should make it to the World Series

The Marlins are 6-1 in b-r's sim.

The Ms and A's are both 7-1. Yanks lead the ALE at 5-2 and the White Sox in ALC at 5-2. The Nats are struggling at 3-4. After their big opening day win, the Cubs have mehed their way to 3-3 with the Cards leading at 5-2. The DBacks 5-2 have a half-game lead over the Dodgers. The sim knows about the scandal and the Astros have struggled to a 2-5 start.

Among full-timers. Franmil Reyes is off to a sizzling 1328 OPS start; Rizzo is at 1283 and Jason Castro at 1278. Semien leads the majors with 5 HR. Semien also leads in posWAR at 0.8 just ahead of Lindor.

Mookie is struggling (217/240/478); Trout is getting the Bonds treatment at 318/516/455 with a 30% walk rate. I don't know the batting order but Upton seems to be making them pay with his 286/286/750 line and 13 RBI (on pace for about 300!) although his 50% K-rate is a bit worrying. You Harper haters will be happy to know he's turning into Chris Davis even sooner than hoped at 154/292/192,

Some last-minute signings: Melky and Puig to the Giants, Cashner to the Ms, Cozart to the Phils, Russell Martin to the Tigers.
   22. bbmck Posted: April 02, 2020 at 05:56 PM (#5936008)
Wade Boggs June 9th, 1985 to June 6th, 1986: MVP 4-7
162 G, 755 PA, 641 AB, 257 Hits, 109 BB, 12 HR, 401/489/541

Tony Gwynn July 27th, 1993 to May 13th 1995: MVP 21-7-9
162 G, 704 PA, 624 AB, 251 Hits, 68 BB, 15 HR, 402/457/563

Rod Carew May 14th, 1977 to May 21st, 1978: MVP 1-11
163 G, 730 PA, 641 AB, 257 Hits, 77 BB, 16 HR, 401/462/580

George Brett through Sept 19th, 1980: MVP-1
104 G, 461 PA, 403 AB, 161 Hits, 52 BB, 19 HR, 400/464/663

John Olerud through August 2nd, 1993: MVP-3
105 G, 450 PA, 365 AB, 146 Hits, 75 BB, 20 HR, 400/500/685

Carew is .399 for either 162 game span.
   23. Darren Posted: April 02, 2020 at 06:33 PM (#5936022)
There's little chance LA will be neutral. How about Cuba? They have some stadiums.
   24. Howie Menckel Posted: April 02, 2020 at 06:54 PM (#5936029)
24. Howie Menckel Posted: January 06, 2018 at 10:51 PM (#5602245)

the last MLB [position] player to hit .400 in a full season of active play (on the 25-man roster) of course we all know played for the Red Sox

yes, that is Roger LaFrancois in 1982, the third-string catcher

he got his first appearance on May 27 but did not bat

then 0 for 1 on June 18 and 1 for 1 on June 30 - a double, no less

an 0 for 2 on Aug 17 seemed to doom our hero

but he got a hit on Sept 14 to get to .400 (2 for 5)

no AB in Sept 17 and Sept 27 appearances, setting the stage for a Ted Williams-like effort in the Red Sox final game of the season - he would risk it all in his only start

our hero lined out to CF in the 2nd at dreaded Yankee Stadium against Doyle Alexander - then grounded out in the 4th and in the 6th

there was no joy in Mudville with a mere 2 for 8 - but wait, there's a single to CF in the top of the 9th

miraculously it's a tie game, and they go to the 11th - and Roger gets another single and scores the winning run!

a full season of "action" - and he went 4 for 10, and never played again (well, in the majors, but don't stop me, I'm on a roll)

...........

(13 hitters on this team got all but 89 of the Red Sox AB in 1982 - not a "deep depth" squad. they went 89-73 under Manager Ralph Houk - who got 158 AB in parts of 8 seasons as a Yankees third-string catcher in the 1940s-1950s)
   25. EddieA Posted: April 02, 2020 at 07:59 PM (#5936043)
I really wish Terry Forster had gotten a hit in 1985.
   26. Mayor Blomberg Posted: April 02, 2020 at 09:43 PM (#5936064)
that's crazy. give LA the 22 or 23 ASG. What's the compensation for the teams/cities that won't host a WS?
   27. The Duke Posted: April 02, 2020 at 10:25 PM (#5936077)
Mass gatherings won’t be happening yet. Round 2 of covid will start in The fall. Maybe they play at dodger stadium but no one will be there to see it.
   28. Walt Davis Posted: April 03, 2020 at 02:22 AM (#5936106)
Checking out the Marlins page -- some hitters are off to a good start but their awesome 6-1 record is all about the bullpen ... a crazy 21 IP, 3 R start. The staff as a whole has given up just 1 HR so far.

Further updates:

Strasburg 2 starts, 9.2 IP, 7 ER
Cole 2 starts, 13.2 IP, 9 R, 8 ER ... but 20 K, 0 BB so things might turn around (BABIP>400, 3 HR)
Rendon 074/219/111

So that's $800 M wasted!!
   29. Itchy Row Posted: April 03, 2020 at 10:23 AM (#5936175)
Shohei Ohtani is hitting .333 but with only one XBH (a double), no walks, and one HBP, his OPS is only .757. That's still 100 points better than Pujols.

As a pitcher, he's 0-2 with a 5.06 ERA. He had one bad start (6 R, 4 of them earned, in 2.2 IP against two-time Cy Young Justin Verlander and the Astros on opening day) and one really good start (2 R in an 8-inning CG against two-time Cy Young Corey Kluber and the Rangers on Wednesday.)

The Angels and Astros split a four-game series to start the fake season, and then both lost their next three games. Both teams are already 4.5 games out.
   30. Walt Davis Posted: April 03, 2020 at 07:13 PM (#5936345)
Cubs win! 8-5 over the DBacks with ... wait for it ... Brandon Morrow picking up the save! The AI manager, in a gutsy bit of brilliance, pulled Kimbrel after 2 K and a H brought in Morrow for a batter. (Anybody know if OOTP has implemented the 3-batter rule?) Morrow is of course injured in real life but given he's faced 6 batters over 3 games, I'm guessing he's got something like 20 innings of playing time in the projections.

Marlins win! Tie the Ms and As (both off today) for best record at 7-1. 4-3 over the Braves. Jesus Aguilar was the big bat with 3 hits including a double and a HR. Jose Urena went 8, giving up 3 runs with 2 Ks and a walk. Drew Steckenrider for his 2nd save while Folty took the loss giving up 4 in 5 innings.

The Angels dumped the Astros into last in the AL West with a 8-4 win in Anaheim. Jason Castro homered twice for the Halos while Justin Upton added his 5th HR of the young season and Shohei Ohtani picked up 3 hits. The Angels knocked Zack Greinke out of the box in the 4th to ease Julio Teheran to his second win on 7 strong innings of 1 run ball. The Astros plated 3 meaningless runs in the 9th on a Carlos Correa HR, his 3rd of the year.

Around the league: Cesar Hernndez hit his first HR as Cleveland overcame a 4-run deficit to win 6-5 in Detroit. Nolan Arenado hit his 5th HR as the Rockies beat the Padres 6-5 at Coors Field. The Dodgers fell 6-5 to the Giants despite Corey Seager's 4 hits and first HR because Blake Treinen sucked. And Tampa won in Texas if anybody cares.
   31. Booey Posted: April 03, 2020 at 08:27 PM (#5936355)
In 2000, Todd Helton entered the Rockies August 21st game hitting .398, then started the game 2/3, briefly raising his average to an even .400 (178/445) in 532 PA's.

After that second hit, he should've just said, "Done!", dropped the mic...er, bat...and sat out the rest of the season with a fake injury.

Note: Helton was still hitting .395 on Aug 30th (570 PA's) and .390 on Sep 3rd (584 PA's).

Sigh...I miss when batting average was still a thing...
   32. Booey Posted: April 03, 2020 at 09:12 PM (#5936362)
Ichiro! hit .409 over 502 PA's from 2004-2005.
   33. Jay Z Posted: April 04, 2020 at 12:35 AM (#5936387)
Mass gatherings won’t be happening yet. Round 2 of covid will start in The fall. Maybe they play at dodger stadium but no one will be there to see it.


There's no evidence yet that the summer will prove any respite, and as such no projection that there will be a Round 2 in the fall.

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