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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Wednesday, July 01, 2020MLB teams can’t identify players who test positive for coronavirus
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Posted: July 01, 2020 at 02:53 PM | 48 comment(s)
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1. catomi01 Posted: July 01, 2020 at 03:21 PM (#5960588)Apparently it's collectively bargained.
Umm...but wasn't that already collectively bargained away?
I haven't seen if they flew a charter or what. MLS is low budget compared to the big 4 sports but they do fly charters some of the time in normal seasons.
Reporters are not subject to HIPAA.
I would guess that in most of these cases, the player has assented to allowing the team to publicize the situation. When Lester was diagnosed, he held a press conference to discuss his treatment. (Of course, the players may also not be fully aware that they have the right not to talk about these things, or to have them disclosed.)
In other cases, it's reporters who are finding these things out. The Rockies originally reported simply that Clint Barmes was put on the DL for a broken collarbone, and it wasn't until a few days later that the deer meat story came out.
I looked back at the story from a week or so ago reporting that Charlie Blackmon and two other Rockies had been diagnosed with COVID-19. No one sourced that material as coming from the Rockies organization; it was simply "sources." I think we can expect that it won't be the teams that are officially releasing such information, but that it will come out eventually nevertheless.
You haven't been paying attention. If people knew that the guy in 13B tested positive, he would be harassed to move out and go quarantine elsewhere.
Look at how many idiots harass people simply because they look Chinese for chrissakes.
B) Not many things have MORE of a "stigma" than being infected with the deadly virus everyone spends all day worrying about. The infected person might not be morally judged like someone with AIDS or a mental illness but he can be treated as a pariah nonetheless.
FWIW, I believe there was an exception made to HIPAA for information to be disclosed to public health officials for COVID.
This is the case for a lot of infections. They're called "notifiable conditions". Public health authorities are seen as having a legitimate interest in knowing about all cases of certain diseases. Here's the list for the State of Washington. Each one needs to be reported by filling out a form. Otherwise we wouldn't have statistics about them.
Honestly, there isn't a number for which I would put real money down on the over.
But following up on that, what would trigger an immediate shutdown? We've obviously moved past where we were in March when a single positive test to an NBA player basically shut down all sports within two days. Would it just take one active player being hospitalized? Would the severity matter - i.e., hospitalized is okay, ICU shuts it all down? Would the player matter - if Freddie Freeman's hospitalized it all shuts down, but we can all go about our business if it's "only" Pete Kozma? Or would it depend on the outside situation - 1,000 deaths in a week shuts everything down; 800 deaths we try to move on even if one of the 800 is Kozma?
I'm a little torn. This is a serious thing; it's a big deal; they probably shouldn't be playing baseball. But that said, these guys are healthy and under 40 years old, so while it's glib to say, it's probably also true that the vast majority of the guys named above will be fine on the other end of this. If it were up to me, I'd probably shut it down right now. But it's not up to me (and shouldn't be up to me, honestly) and I'm curious what folks think would trigger such a reaction.
If baseball was just players, that'd be one thing, but there's a lot of coaches, umpires, support staff, stadium personnel, and people in the outside world that those people come in contact with that are at a higher risk for consequences if they're exposed. Maybe this is overly cautious but I'd rather not have a coach/umpire/unfortunate non-MLB person die because the Padres and Rockies played a relatively meaningless game in August.
yall should watch this
they need to show 20 something obviously Caucasian 20 something year olds who are deathly sick or haven't revovered to anywhers near normal, so as maybe some of the anti maskers, trumpers and younger folks will wise their asses before i go all ham on em. yo9u notice that only ONE of those guys had a fever or any symptoms
and reading all the guys listed in the previous comments, i notice that only 4 of em are Caucasian. still too many of em think this is a POC's disease. that and the very old or already sick.
This is ridiculous.
SHUT. IT. DOWN.
Most of them will be wearing shirts with their names written on the back, as well as a unique identifying number. Maybe that would help narrow it down?
And there may be a lot of coaches, umpires, support staff, stadium personnel whose livelihoods depend on these so-called meaningless games being played. We're past the point of only "essential" businesses operating. If some semblance of a season can be played with appropriate precautions, I don't think it is ridiculous to try. Of course there is risk involved but it seems possible to play baseball games without that risk being inordinate. They're not all going to remain in seclusion for the next two years if there are no games.
Maybe I am sorely mistaken.
Freddie Freeman, Atlanta
Miguel Sano, Minnesota
Charlie Blackmon, Colorado
Hector Neris, Philadelphia
Salvador Perez, Kansas City
Mike Kingery, Philadelphia
Tommy Pham, San Diego
Will Smith, Atlanta
Williams Astudillo, Minnesota
Touki Toussaint, Atlanta
Tommy Hunter, Philadelphia
Ryan Castellani, Colorado
Genesis Cabrera, St. Louis
Darwinzon Hernandez, Boston
Ranger Suarez, Philadelphia
Josh Taylor, Boston
Pete Kozma, Atlanta
Luis Madero, San Francisco
Aaron Nola, Philadelphia
D J LeMahieu, Yankees
Luis Cessa, Yankees
Adam Haseley, Philadelphia
Cristian Bethancourt, Philadelphia
Karl, oy.
It has been reported that Nola hasn’t tested positive, but is being held out because of the protocols, meaning that he may have showed symptoms and/or been in contact with someone who tested positive.
https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/07/05/freddie-freeman-is-sick-with-covid-19/
Felix Hernandez has opted out of this year.
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