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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Monday, January 16, 2012National writer: If Rangers sign Prince Fielder, he’d be best hitter in baseball ‘by a mile’Bob Nightengale force wind warning!
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Posted: January 16, 2012 at 05:13 AM | 29 comment(s)
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1. Eugene FreedmanI guess the only pure number that matters is RBI. Otherwise Gonzalez was not the number one hitter in all of baseball at any point, ever.
2 MVP awards = Best player in the league. Quod erat demonstrandum.
What I don't really get is this part of it:
Young will be on the books in 2012 and 2013, and it's not like he's been an albatross. If there's a prospect of using his salary wisely in 2014 and beyond, it's balanced by the fact that he's a very valuable guy in the lineup to try to replace. The pessimist (i.e. Rangers fan) in me wants to say, it's really going to hurt that our .300-hitting super-utility-man is fixing to get older and stop hitting.
And that's you micro-parsing of a writer's offhand remarks for this Monday. Back to our regular broadcast :)
Are comments such as this indicating the Rangers won't get Darvish to agree on a contract by the deadline? It's hard for me to envision them adding both Darvish and Fielder, unless they jack 2013 ticket prices to near-Cowboys levels.
Don't the Rangers have one of those ginormous new local TV deals?
Yeah, that was disappointing. He did hit .403 at home in 2000.
Braun 166 OPS+
Weeks 121 OPS+
Hart 133 OPS+
Beltre 129 OPS+
Hamilton 128 OPS+
Young 124 OPS+
Not to mention, even if the Rangers featured five 200 OPS+ batters, that kind/degree of protection isn't real.
Presumably that's due to the protection silliness.
#11 ... you left out Napoli who, as we all know, is a true 171 OPS+ hitter.
I've always opined that if there is such a thing as "protection" it's protection from the front, not behind. The way to "protect" your big hitter is to try to make sure there are guys on base when he comes to bat.
The Rangers don't really have any big on-base guys ... well, other than Young in years he hits 330. Kinsler and Andrus are fine but not spectacular.
Yes, the Rangers were 3rd in OBP so (a) solid throughout the lineup and (b) driven by their league-leading BA. Somewhat surprisingly for a team with that kind of power, they were only 8th in BB.
He'd hit a homerun 60% of the time... Every time!
I remember when the Red Sox traded for Jose Canseco and people thought 60 would be within reach for him.
Thinking about 'protection' makes my head swim. Supposedly there IS some kind of pitcher protection, BUT I've also heard that teams want the pitcher to lead off the next inning, so they'll 'go after the 8 hitter'. Well, which is it? Are they going after him or working around him?
And I can see how AGon in San Diego would be affected. I can see how that kind of protection exists. But when you start talking about 'extra protection'...it just gets ridiculous. Unless there's just a glaring hole in the line-up a pitcher is just going to try and get a guy out as best he can.
I think it would depend on the situation, and the No. 8 hitter. If you've got runners on second and third and a No. 8 hitter who isn't helpless with the stick, a free pass is common (and may be sensible, depending on the pitcher). In other situations, you'd love to have the pitcher lead off the next inning, so you're going to want to avoid getting cute with the No. 8 guy.
Does Protection help your HR and RBI total? SURE. You get fewer walks with men on, especially with first base open, than with No Protection. See Ruth with/without Gehrig, and Bonds without any decent other bat.
Does Protection help you be a better hitter? No. Your OPS don't go up. DOES. NOT HAPPEN.
Does Protection help you be perceived to be a better hitter by the lame stream writers and many fan? Sadly, kinda. See Howard, Ryan.
If there's no one on base you go after the #8 to push an easy out into the next inning. If there are runners aboard, however, you forget the next inning and deal with the situation at hand. And that means you put the burden to get them home on the pitcher rather than an actual hitter.
I admire Bob Nighingale. He presumably makes a living at this without having to do any homework whatsoever. If only I was clever enough to get paid for that.
Yeah, this can drive me batty. "Herman Cain will garner at least seven or eight votes in South Carolina!" So... at least seven? Then there's the double weasel with backflip: "Sources say Herman Cain may garner at least seven or eight votes in South Carolina."
Nitpicking, but I do think that particular parks and lineups really do effect batters to some degree. Mostly in terms of their approach. It's the David Wright thing, at core. A player who is particularly suited to a ballpark (think Lowell in Fenway) may genuinely become a bit better/pickier pursuant to a confidence pick me up in his new home. But, I think it's probably marginal enough to be like clutch. Come to think of it, isn't that lineup effect on the whole: there but really within static unless it's fabulously, unrealistically huge?
I love how people forget about Jose Bautista every off season. It's maginificent.
(You say that's only happened twice? No, he's been forgotten about each off season)
SQUIRREL!
I'd give Nightengale a bit of a pass here. I assume by "pure numbers" he means old-school things like HR and RBI, and I wouldn't be surprised if Fielder led the majors in HR and RBI (though maybe not "by a mile") while playing in Arlington, in that lineup.
As far as the Juan Gonzalez comment, we all know how valuable Gonzalez was/wasn't (he even dropped off the HOF ballot this year), but from 1996 to 1999, on a per-162 game basis, he averaged 50 HR and 161 RBI. On a "pure numbers" basis, that's very impressive, and I think that's what Nightengale's getting at. Fielder could put up big HR totals because of the park, and he could put up big RBI totals because of the guys batting in front of him (maybe Kinsler, Young, Hamilton). Just like Juan Gonzalez did.
And also, he's exaggerating.
That was Adam Dunn's minimum last year.
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