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Saturday, May 30, 2020

Nationals’ Max Scherzer signals union’s rejection of MLB’s proposed salary cuts

“ The Major League Baseball Players Association plans to reject the league’s proposed salary cuts — and will suggest a longer regular season — when it makes a counterproposal, as the sport reaches a critical juncture in its efforts to start the 2020 season amid a global pandemic.
In a social media post late Wednesday night, Washington Nationals pitcher Max Scherzer, a member of the union’s executive subcommittee, wrote that players had “no reason to engage with MLB” over pay cuts, and challenged the league to open its books if it wants to justify that proposal.
“There’s no justification to accept a 2nd pay cut based upon the current information the union has received,” Scherzer wrote. “I’m glad to hear other players voicing the same viewpoint and believe MLB’s economic strategy would completely change if all documentation were to become public information.
Scherzer’s post came after two players meetings, the first with the eight-member executive subcommittee and the second with a larger group of about 150 players. A source familiar with the union’s position said Scherzer accurately portrayed the players’ sentiment.“

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   1. John Northey Posted: May 30, 2020 at 11:32 PM (#5954564)
For the owners a longer playoff is probably what they'll take. No extra pay, lots of extra revenue with the potential of fans in the stands as it is so far in the future. MLB going well into December - the Christmas Classic? - is possible. I could imagine a 16 team playoff, best of 7 each round. Builds up lots of excitement in lots of cities, more high rated TV games in those cities.
   2. Sunday silence Posted: May 31, 2020 at 04:08 PM (#5954601)
what is the reference to "extra pay?" THe player are fighting to retain the 50% pay cut that was sort of/maybe agreed to earlier in the spring. What is meant by extra pay?
   3. Walt Davis Posted: May 31, 2020 at 06:38 PM (#5954608)
I assume John's referring to the fact that salaries are regular season then any players that make the playoffs get playoff bonuses which are essentially a (probably pretty small) proportion of playoff revenue. Under these circumstances, give the owners the choice between 100 games and 3 playoff rounds vs. 80 games and 4 full playoff rounds and the owners are probably better off with the latter.
   4. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: May 31, 2020 at 09:19 PM (#5954627)
Hindsight is 20/20, but it still seems like pretty poor lawyering on all sides that neither the players union, nor the owners, thought to make explicit what would happen if games could begin without fans in attendance, in terms of revenue.

Am I right that back in March, it was pretty common that, in the context of sports being able to be played in 2020, it was assumed it would be without fans?

But it appears nobody ever thought to make this part of that early agreement.
   5. dejarouehg Posted: June 01, 2020 at 12:03 AM (#5954648)
Am I right that back in March, it was pretty common that, in the context of sports being able to be played in 2020, it was assumed it would be without fans?


Not sure if that was the prevailing thought at the time. Certainly was in my house - we wouldn't be going to games this year no matter what.

This really was bad work, again, on the union's side. I'm just not sure what it is going to take for them to fire Tony Clark. Nice guy, wrong job.
   6. Rally Posted: June 01, 2020 at 08:47 AM (#5954668)
Am I right that back in March, it was pretty common that, in the context of sports being able to be played in 2020, it was assumed it would be without fans?


For me I don't think the full impact had sunk in yet. I might have thought the NBA would resume after a few weeks and start games without fans, since they were well into the season. That baseball might, after a few weeks, open the season without fans but by now we'd at least have some attendance - certainly lower than usual. I did not think it was likely that by June the optimistic outcome would be games starting by July or August with zero attendance anywhere.
   7. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: June 01, 2020 at 12:15 PM (#5954733)
On June 1, 2020, what would you say the percentage chance is of:

1) MLB playing games in 2020?
2) If they do play games in 2020, that it will be 82 or less?
3) MLB playing 162 games in 2021?
   8. Tom Nawrocki Posted: June 01, 2020 at 12:58 PM (#5954740)
On June 1, 2020, what would you say the percentage chance is of:

1) MLB playing games in 2020?


40%, and dropping every day.

2) If they do play games in 2020, that it will be 82 or less?


100%.

3) MLB playing 162 games in 2021?


90%. I doubt this pandemic will still be raging ten months from now.
   9. dejarouehg Posted: June 01, 2020 at 05:13 PM (#5954797)
35%/100%/75%

Is Don Fehr still working for the NHLPA?

If so, he certainly isn't that belligerent anymore.
   10. Karl from NY Posted: June 01, 2020 at 05:18 PM (#5954799)
#1 and #3 are contingent. If 2020 cancels entirely, they won't start 2021 anywhere nearly on time. If they come to some agreement in 2020, that will have set enough precedent for 2021 to proceed on reduced salaries and stadium operations. (The pandemic will indeed still be raging by April 2021, it can't stop until we're all vaccinated which won't happen by then, and we're not getting back to full fans in stadiums until we are.)
   11. McCoy Posted: June 01, 2020 at 08:04 PM (#5954828)
I think there was a lot of desire to punt the problem down the road. Why get bogged down on a future unknown that might never happen?
   12. Rally Posted: June 01, 2020 at 09:17 PM (#5954840)
Any games 50%

Less than 82: 90%

162 games in 21: 75%

   13. The Mighty Quintana Posted: June 02, 2020 at 12:46 PM (#5954917)
1) 30%
2) 99%
3) 70%

My neighbor is a FOX sports producer, they told him to plan on being out of work until October.

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